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Springtimeflower
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posted August 13, 2024 11:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Springtimeflower     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi Emsie!

Congratulations on your new job. Thank you for the feedback.

I'm slowly getting my mother's stuff taken care of. It's been time consuming. My fur kid seems stronger, but her legs are still the same.

I had the strangest thing happen amongst all of this. I went to the grocery store this past weekend and while there I had a man speak to me (usually it's me being friendly towards others). He actually did my eye exam at an optical store I used to go to for glasses and contacts. At first I had this evenly paced nice conversation about healthy foods and mundane stuff with him and then I got really nervous and started to ramble. As he walked away, he looked back as though he knew that he had gotten a rise out of me or a reaction (like getting under your skin, if that makes sense). So intense, but then transiting Venus is conjunct my natal Pluto right now. I was wondering if you could read on this--what was D.J. (me) supposed to get from the connection/chance meeting with A.M.? The next day I couldn't stop thinking about him at times and then yesterday, while driving, my mind was going over and over the conversation. Today not so much, but then I had more stuff for my mom to do. I also have transiting Jupiter in Gemini in my 5th house at the moment, too. I sleuthed his B-day and he has his Sun, moon, mercury and venus all in Gemini, too. His moon and venus in my 4th house squaring pluto in my 7th house. His sun and mercury in my 5th house. His mars in cancer in my 6th house near the 7th.

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posted September 15, 2024 09:26 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Emsie     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi Spring,

Sorry for another delay, I've been caught up in an intense period at work.

For your question:

Hermit
Strength
4 of Swords

I think this transit was supposed to make you turn inward to shed light on your reaction and the root cause where it originates from. On this Strength card a small dog is bugging a cat who is trying to hold the doggie back. I think in this case the dog depicts your thoughts and how they keep on bugging you. As soon as you realize the origins where this comes from peace of mind is attainable.

On the bottom there is the Wheel of Fortune. And while shuffling the 2 of Wands also appeared a few times. Somehow they remind me of trying to think about standing at crossroads in life and asking "now what and where" trying to find direction to start following. Maybe this man and the encounter had a purpose to make you think about where destiny is about to take you and if this man was part of it.

I pulled a few timing pebbles for you when you're about to embark on a new chapter of your life:

Next
December
Degree
8
Libra
Sun

Upcoming December might be significant for you, as well as Libra season, or a Libra Sun person (might have 8-degree Libra Sun). Or, some kind of transit touching a natal planet of yours at 8 degrees. I think a preparation period might already be brewing and December might be go-time.

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posted September 16, 2024 08:18 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Springtimeflower     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks Emsie!

Hope you get more breaks from the intense work period you are experiencing.

What you read fits as I haven't bumped into A.M. since. I sensed he was at the place we bumped into each twice, but either work on my mom's home or something else kept me from being there. You are right, as I started thinking about what happened and it reminded me of another guy I knew from a past workplace that I bumped into a few years ago and I wasted so much time thinking I would bump into him again and when I did a few times they were disappointing experiences--this one I think only approached me to see what company I went to work for after I left (he was looking for another job and wanted to leave, too). A.M. was looking for a natural doctor and asked me if I remembered the one that worked holistically in another city. I did go to that doctor and filled him in on that doc's history..think he retired. Anyways, the chemistry was there between us, and what's interesting is the current transit of mars in cancer is getting closer to conjuncting his natal mars, which squares my natal Venus. Orange had read that A.M. and I would disagree on what's expected living together, which makes sense as his Mars is less that 10 degrees from my descendant and sitting in my 6th house..and my Venus rules the 4th house and sits in my 8th. Orange also said after pulling the 3 of wands reversed.. don't wait for him..there's nothing there.

You are also right about preps for change being made.

Take care,
Spring

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posted September 18, 2024 12:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Emsie     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I also felt a similar vibe just like Orange and even thought of the exact same that maybe it was something brief, like an eye opener and no need to hold onto it in the long term.

In the meantime, I met someone at this new workplace. I have the birth date of the person, unfortunately without exact time of birth. I will try to post the charts soon and provide background story. ☺️

Until that I'm trying to roll with this Eclipse season's tides as I can already feel a massive tension. It's Pisces Lunar Eclipse now, and I haven't looked at it yet, but I suspect it might form a square to my 2H and 11H planets... Things turning out at my workplace, and not pleasant ones regarding upper management...

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posted September 19, 2024 10:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Springtimeflower     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi Emsie,

Yes, not this Saturday, but the following Saturday, the Venus mars square will be reinforced, so it's likely I will bump into him as the time before was on a Saturday or if the drama has reached him maybe not at all. I've been busy with the movers..putting most of the furniture in storage, and cleaning out some things. The rest I will do once I am fully moved.

I hope the guy you met at work is the one for you. Please do post his chart.

Another nudge to get you to be working on your own (higher ups).

Another reader seems to think I will be meeting the guy I'm meant to be with soon and that A.M. was sent to get me ready. What's also interesting is that around three years ago, before one of my nieces passed away, I was concerned about needing to look out for her in the event that her father passed away first (he set things up for me to take care of his end of life paperwork). Anyways, the reader told me, you will already be married before he passes.

What's also interesting is that I found A.M.'s ex's birth date and we are born the same year, but instead of her Venus being in Libra, it's in Aries and also squaring his natal mars in cancer. Maybe his lesson is to recognize the reaction he had to me knowing that the results would be the same or similar. I remember having a couple of guys interested in me at the same time and I would pick the wrong one.

Take care,
Spring

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posted September 28, 2024 03:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Emsie     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi Spring,

These are probably not favorable times for love, a few days ago the guy dropped a few bombs which were instant dealbreakers for me. Venus in Scorpio can be quite cruel - I'm having my Venus return right now, so my natal Venus-Saturn square was triggered a little bit.

We have quite a few Scorpio conjunctions in synastry, no wonder the initial attraction. And we can talk about deeper-than-surface topics, even sharing things which others would probably consider taboo. (His Scorpio Venus-Pluto-Sun conjunction is on my Venus, his Scorpio Mercury on my Pluto)

But he natally has Venus square Mars and due to unhealthy patterns and what he saw happening to the male relatives in his family (losing a lot by divorce) he has commitment issues. At the beginning he even told me he didn't want a wife at all, only a child. I think this is the reason that he's shielding himself from love and a true connection and gets bogged down in short term flings (one of the biggest dealbreakers for me)

Otherwise, we have a really strange connection, I'm pretty sure this is a past life connection as we have surface level differences, but under the surface we both experienced almost the same dynamics in our lives. His Sag Uranus is right on my Sun, I feel this is something unique we share. The deep friendship is there, something I've never really experienced before.

His Sag Saturn is on my Mercury and Mars. Sometimes he can be a real wet blanket and very critical with my taste in music, movies, etc. On the other hand, he literally learns a lot from me, especially communication related stuff. And he envies my 2H achievements.

But love-wise I know this is a no-go. Maybe in another life, another dimension, but definitely not now. I would prefer someone with a healthy attachment style and similar core values.

I can definitely relate to your experience and feel that we might indeed be prepared for someone else and this was only a short detour. I caught myself editing my beliefs, so that's definitely something I still have to work on.

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posted September 29, 2024 09:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Springtimeflower     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi Emsie,

With that synastry I'm surprised he didn't stick like glue. I think your conversations really got you to do some deep thinking. Sometimes we don't realize everything that we took in until later.

I'm actually moving to an interim place this week to get some rest, slowly clean out more stuff, have time to finally grieve properly and focus on the pupper (she has Lyme disease), but has a skin infection and UTI. Besides the Lyme disease her hypothalamus is dysfunctional. She had the hypothalamus issue as a puppy and most likely where the excess hunger, ear infections and wanting to eat other dog's poop came from..one treatment for this is a vitamin supplement. She won't be able to get the antibiotic for the Lyme disease until her infections are gone. One reader did see her losing weight after my mom was gone and I'm hoping her legs come back after the treatment for the Lyme disease.

Maybe my intuition will be sharper.. I'll let you know.. MoonMystic told me that I would become more intuitive after my mom passes.

Sending you hugs. Saturn wants us to be patient and to learn..just know that you're not alone..

October 3rd and 8th should be interesting.

Take care,
Spring 🌼

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posted October 02, 2024 12:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Emsie     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I will check back soon again 😊

I just wanted to share the Uranus/Sun synastry conjunction experience in my life = Clicking with each other instantly in an unusual way, rather friendly connection, then something shocking turns out about the other person who starts behaving erratically, and which makes the whole connection volatile. The one who gets hurt suddenly shuts the other and the whole connection out including communication. Then the other person is heading elsewhere in life, so the connection would end anyway within a few months.

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posted October 10, 2024 08:39 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted October 10, 2024 12:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Springtimeflower     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi Emsie,

Hope you are doing okay. We just dodged another hurricane (Milton). Luckily they had generators where I'm at, but no wi-fi yet..using my phone. I'll hopefully be back soon. I was finally able to get the Lyme disease med for the pupper right before the storm came and it made a big difference..still no walking, but she seems to feel better. I feel asleep before the storm passed through.. usually I'm wide awake, so it was much needed sleep.

On the sun conjunct Uranus synastry you can always expect the unexpected with Uranus involved.

I hope to be back soon. I'm still trying to finish stuff for my mom and the people around me are pushy, so I don't get much of a break these days although it's been quiet the last two..one of the pushy people are closer to where some of the worst of the weather went through, so they may be busy and is the quiet I'm seeing.

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posted October 21, 2024 04:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Emsie     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi Spring,

I really hope you are okay 🙏🙏🙏, I heard about Milton destroying a lot of areas in FL, even damaging tornadoes showed up before it made landfall.

I will check back soon as my work schedule has started spinning out of control (Saturn square my 2H) and this is the week when I decided to draw my boundaries. I think I need a little bit of downtime to spend without working the evening away, especially during days and weeks like these. I can definitely feel the Pluto-Sun square transit, and this is the time when I feel like releasing old memories again out of my system...

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posted November 01, 2024 02:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Springtimeflower     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi Emsie,

I'm doing okay. Thank you for the prayers and well wishes. We were lucky--again.

My brain has been mush lately with trying to keep up with everything and then taking time to provide entertainment for the pupper which tends to put me behind with other things.

I pulled some cards for what is coming up for you in the next eight weeks. I think things will get better for you after the beginning of the coming year.

Ace of wands (r)
Queen of swords (r)
Page of swords
9 of cups (r)
Devil (r)
Queen of wands (r)
Clarifiers or after 8 weeks: queen of coins, knight of cups, 6 of wands, sun

I think your boundaries like you spoke about or maybe trying something else may not work out. Someone may not be seeing the big picture or you have a malicious female around you (angry person). You'll be watching what's happening more closely, and there may be some disagreements. 9 of cups reversed could also be you letting go of more of your material stuff, which can make sense with the devil reversed--you're not shackled to it or you decide to quit your job or at least tell them that..the clarifiers could be them offering you something good work wise and the queen of wands (rev) is the jealousy from others because of it....OR you end up quitting and they are in opposition to that and the clarifiers are showing what's coming up.. something better...

Hope this helps..I will check back..most likely there will be another delay after that...

Take care,
Spring

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posted November 02, 2024 01:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Emsie     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi Spring,

Looks like we're going through similar times as some days I feel the exact same. As if I was trying to do rodeo on top of a tornado...

I expect something similar described by the cards in the coming 8 weeks. Right now certain issues beyond our control popped up in regards to our team and position which causes us major discomfort and discontentment (9 of Cups Rx) We're about to have discussions about potential ideas on improving our situation to eliminate the part causing us stress and to improve communication with important people we would need to collaborate with, but they make it really hard by not really communicating towards us in general.

So far I haven't considered quitting, but rather giving improvements a chance and trying to push our ideas forward. Some days I feel a little bit like that Ace of Wands Rx, other days I'm up for the challenge which energizes me instead.

I actually have an Aquarius female colleague, so I'm wondering if the 2 reversed queens signify us in this situation - both of us are frustrated and some days angry because of the same unwilling people and issues with stuck processes. We're both looking for the same goal - to kick that Devil to the curb (earlier processes which are now outdated and we're not willing to go with those, nor the inflexible people who cling into these...)

We're already experiencing clashes with these inflexible and unhelpful people, and we also don't think this will change until end of 2024. Until that overtime remains probably.

The Queen of Pents makes me think about hard work literally paying off. Last month I did so much overtime that I'm expecting a huge lump sum arriving within a few days (here we have payday in the first 5-10 days of each month)

In next March there will be the annual raise and merit we get and it turned out I'm also eligible for that. I really hope they will see and appreciate my dedication and perseverance. And before that hopefully our ideas for process improvement will be approved to make our workdays less burdensome.

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posted November 02, 2024 08:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Springtimeflower     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thank you for the feedback. I think what I'm seeing as well as you is tied to the mars transit and it's retrograde and also opposing Pluto..when Pluto changes signs, some of the heaviness of all of this should go away.

At least you have another coworker seeing the same thing. Maybe when transiting Pluto goes into Aquarius.

One of my siblings mentioned the Swedish death cleaning to me. I remember you talking about it. I've already thought of a triage of sorts..keep if needed..donate .if the charity won't take it..trash..the pupper has been kicking her back legs more, and only has about a week left on the medicine. If she doesn't get her legs back, there's things I can part with then..and she's already become resistant to one antibiotic. I found a vitamin supplement for her and hopefully that will help to cure her appetite.

Hope you are able to find a little time for yourself..

Spring

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posted November 09, 2024 02:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Emsie     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi Spring,

I really do hope that the heaviness and the burdens will slowly, but surely start going away. My Aqua co-worker spilled the tea regarding my (and her ex-)manager a few days ago. She showed me very nasty and mean stuff the guy wrote to her earlier which served as a reason for her to switch to a different division. The guy turns out to be almost like the previous manager at my workplace before this current one... So far, he hasn't said or done anything nasty to me and I will try to hide myself a little out of his sight not to become his target. As long as he leaves me alone I will be fine and concentrate on my daily tasks.

It is interesting as I've just checked my Solar Return chart for 2025. My SR MC has a visitor again 3rd year in a row. First it was Saturn, then Uranus, and this time Mars (in Leo) in opposition to Pluto and Venus in Aqua... What I definitely don't want in my career and worklife is a war, but I smell some kind of potential power struggles I'm not quite happy about right now. Hopefully, this energy will be channeled rather into proactive process improvements.

Keep up the great cleaning! Last month my company organized a week-long event where they collected used clothes for children and families in need. I ended up bringing 4 big bags of my unused clothes including coats, jumpers, thick and warm socks, basically 3/4 of my wardrobe is now gone. What a relief and a great feeling that I could help at least a little.

I also hope that your pupper will get back in shape over time. I was also thinking about getting Mr. Cat to the vet for an annual check-up. I switched to a wet food only plan as I couldn't find a proper grain-free dry food, even the one which seemed like the most attractive with mostly OK ingredients made him poop a lot and very smelly, and he was a little bit chonky. Not too much, even the vet confirmed earlier that it was OK. But now I've noticed as if Mr. Cat lost some of that weight... Not that much, though, but it still made me think that it might be time for an appointment just to make sure everything's fine.

I'm about to ask for an appointment at my local astrologer. I'm so curious about my 2025, especially the Saturn transit squaring a few things in my chart... I can definitely feel the energy and I'm waiting for Saturn to get out of those degrees next year.

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posted November 19, 2024 10:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Springtimeflower     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi Emsie,

Sorry for the delay. I'm hoping to respond to your message soon (by this Sunday at the latest).

Take care,
Spring

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posted November 20, 2024 09:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Springtimeflower     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thank you on the well wishes for the clean out of stuff. I think I over did things these past few days..just trying to find some things I needed and then looking at what I had saved from my mom. Just need to triage stuff now.

Maybe this will be the last of your workplace challenges. The Venus in Pisces retrograde in 2025 should be interesting for you since it will fall into your 5th house..either a budding romance or something to do with that creative career idea you have. With transiting Pluto getting closer to your 4th house cusp and your natal Saturn some uprooting which will become prominent after 2025 as your natal Venus gets some attention. April should be significant with those planets lining up in Pisces as well including the north node, so definitely a significant time for romance or creative stuff. Something definitely karmic. You may also have something detailed and imaginative to do or a serious romance headed your way. Transiting Uranus will also be headed back to your 8th house as well...shared resources...money coming your way?

More soon. I'm having to slow down.. trying to do too much.

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