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Cat
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posted October 26, 2002 04:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Cat     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hey Magnolia
Now why do I relate to you saying Uranus being your only planet in water making you a little crazy It definately makes us interesting
Sue

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posted October 26, 2002 04:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Cat     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi Stella
You're definately understanding how your 12th house Mars works
Sue

PS: It's interesting to see so many people with planets in their 12th house

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Randall
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posted October 27, 2002 07:31 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
This Cappy is getting impatient. Next Lesson please please please...

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"Never mentally imagine for another that which you would not want to experience for yourself, since the mental image you send out inevitably comes back to you." Rebecca Clark

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posted October 27, 2002 09:27 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Cat     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Randall
Now that's a first....a impatient cappy

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posted October 27, 2002 08:51 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hm, I'm in here late; been about.

Me:
Water - Sun (Pisces), Merc (Pisces), Asc (Scorp), Uranus (Scorp)
Earth - Venus (Taurus), Jupiter (Virgo), Saturn (Virgo), Chiron (Taurus)
Air - Moon (Aqua), Pluto (Libra) - my S.Node's also in Aqua
Fire - Mars (Leo), Neptune (Sag) - and my N.Node in Leo

Funny thing - I seem to be most deficient in Fire and Air, but when people know me on a kinda-sorta superficial level (ie, when I was in the Army), they tended to guess that I was a Gemini or an Aries (curiously enough, two signs w/ no planets in my chart). Could that be a house-based thing (Uranus is in my 1st, my Moon in my 3rd)...?

Corri

PS - Cool start to the course.

PPS - Oh, yeah, as far as I get along w/ others heavy in certain elements and/or w/ those suns:
_Water_ - Usu. pert dern well - Cancers can be a bit wet-blanket-y; I'm cool w/ most other Pisces; and Scorps...oh...well, to be perfectly stereotypical, Scorp guys typically knock me for a loop'er'two. If nothing else, they see right into me - this one Scorp guy friend of mine did just that and said, "You know, Corri - you're so soft and feminine beneath it all. You don't seem that way - you seem brash and outgoing (and I do, esp. @ work), but that's not you. You're actually quite emotional." And he had known me for all of a few weeks. Yeah Scorp.
_Earth_- Well, but dern can they be cold and a bit calculating in personal relationships. My Virgo Sis and I are either best buddies or ready to kill one another, and one of my fave uncles is one. Taureans are cool, but we just tend to not even be able to remotely see eye to eye re: material matters (ex - Tau: "Why do you only have one towel?" Me: "I only need one." ... Tau: "I feel so weird - I need to go shopping!" Me: "..."). Cappies are cool - and there's a Cappie guy that won't leave me alone right now - but, like I said, my Gma w/ her Cappie Asc can seem so harsh.
_Air_: Good, as long as it's a superficial thing (although things can get a bit deeper w/ Aquarians; and I know some Air Suns w/ a lot of Earth or Water that get on great w/ me). W/ Gems, like I said, as long as we keep it to banter, it goes well - that being said, they and Aquas seem to be the only ones that go along w/ the goofy, nonsensical word play that I sometimes get into. Aquas tend to be some of my best friends, although they seem genuinely confused when I go through one of my little downtimes. Libras - eh, I dunno - my Pop's one; he initially tried to fit me into a super-logical mold, but after I told him that he's not a sell-out just b/c he's an accountant b/c that's what he *likes* to do, he calmed down a bit and admitted that I'm not...that I'm goofy beyond all aid.
_Fire_ - Mooosst heavily-fire peeps are a bit to much for me in anything resembling the long-term, and after a while I'm sure I'm too sedate for them. I do respect quite a few, though - when they believe something, they do so earnestly and wholeheartedly, and that's cool. But I've noticed that when they believe something they also believe that belief to be IT. But, wait - my best friend through elementary school (we still keep in touch) has a Saggie Sun and Leo Moon ... but she does have Merc and Venus in Scorp and a Cancer Asc.

Cool. It was quite self-instructive to write all that out...and I handily avoided writing a report for an extra few moments.

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posted October 27, 2002 11:06 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Im an Aries, with a Pisces moon to soothe some of that fire. I have always attracted and been attracted to water signs. I am now completly flipped out over a Gemini, and have found what I feel is the perfect match for me. He's able to keep up with me emotionally, but doesnt depress me. Im horrible when depressed.

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Joga
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posted October 27, 2002 11:13 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ok... Im out of it. My ascendant is Pisces, my moon is saggi.

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Joga
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posted October 27, 2002 11:19 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hey, do you guys go to astro.com to pull up charts?? I had my chart done once, and she did it wrong!! I thought my moon was Scorpio for a year. Then for Christmas a few years ago my mom got me a computer program thing that does charts... and again, it was all screwed up. Im so nervous that every time I get my chart, its wrong.Even when I do it myself. Any suggestions on this??
**Joga**

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posted October 28, 2002 01:29 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'm a complete and utter novice, but I've grown to trust astro.com ... but I'll bet that there's a few'uns out there in LL that'll know what to do when casting a chart to know for sure that the info's correct.

Corri

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MARY
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posted October 28, 2002 12:18 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thank you for the star Cat!!!

There are programs at www.getcdsfree.com
click on lifestyles to find them.
You only pay shipping...

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posted October 28, 2002 01:31 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Interesting insights going on here. Whenever somebody asks me if they're compatible with someone else, I never tell them you either are or aren't--I say some pairings have to work at it more than others--then I consider their elements. I explain it this way: earth and water make the plants grow, air feeds fire's flame, with air and water you get gas, with fire and earth you get a volcano!

Hey Purpleflame, my Moon is Cancer and my Asc is Taurus (I hate being a Sag w/ a Taurus asc--talk about WRONG impressions).

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Cat
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posted October 28, 2002 03:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Cat     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Mary
You're very welcome. Your posts are always very interesting

Sue

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posted October 28, 2002 03:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Cat     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi Firedragon
Great observations
I've always found it to be very helpful to consider the elements in charts (your own as well as other people's and how you are likely to relate to them).

It's interesting and quite easy to look at it from that "angle" as even with very liitle astrological knowledge most people understand how earth, wind (air) fire and water behave.

For example....
Someone with a lot of Fire and Water in their chart can really burn bright (like a fire) but they can also then put out their own "flames" with the water!
When someone with a lot of fire in their chart gets together with someone who is predominately water.....The water will tend to put out that fire

Sue

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Randall
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posted October 29, 2002 02:16 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Did somebody say impatient Cappy?

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Mercy
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posted October 29, 2002 05:39 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
High five Randall! I am with you on this!

Amber: you have no water in your chart?! Aquarius is an Air sign!
Poops: the south node should be the exact opposite of the north node. Or have I become wacko?
Oh and me:
3 Water and North Node Pisces = 4
4 Air (M.C Gemini conj. Mercury)
2 Fire Part Fortune Aries= 3
2 Earth and Ascendant = 3

Great Terri! Well done and keep on going, it goes great!

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moonshadow
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posted October 29, 2002 06:26 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Very interesting discussion. Only getting round to posting now. Must be that I have no earth whatsoever!

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gladeyes
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posted October 30, 2002 11:19 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi

Sun Pisces
Asc Cancer
Moon Leo

Most of my planets are in fire signs, one in air, and none in Earth. Very few plants ever survive in my home.

My friend of over 40 years is Cancer. Another friend of 30 years is Aries.
My mother is Pisces, my dad Leo, my brother Aries. My dad and I clashed a lot when I was younger (I didn't like being told what to do) but I get on well with my brother.

My ex was Aries, I loved his enthusiasm but hated his irritability and short temper. My son is Aries, Leo Asc. My daughter is Scorpio, Aries Asc. I get on well with both of them except when they are together, then I'm in the middle of a war.

Most people on first meeting me, come up against the Pisces/Cancer but when they get to know me my Leo moon becomes involved. I seem to get on well with Aries and Leos, they bring out the risk-taker in me. I get on well with water signs. Some earth type people I get on well with. Don't know many air signs but the ones I like best seem to be Aquarians especially the excentric ones (possibly because my Mercury is in Aquarius). I am friends with a Gemini but I can't keep up with her moods and find her draining.

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posted October 30, 2002 11:26 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi Mecy,
Hmmm, that put's a Spanner in the works, caus if I believe that my N/N is Aries (4th) & my S/N-Libra (10),but they are not direct opposites!

Cat checked these for me, but maybe we are mistaken. ( Sorry Cat, I'm not trying to point the blame, I'm just confused now ???? )

So, would it be more likely that my N/N is Aries (4) and my S/N Virgo (10)

18th Dec 1968 (4:45 am) Melbourne Australia

Sorry, but now I'm not sure at all ?
Can anyone clear this up for me please.

poops

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posted October 30, 2002 11:38 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Cat

"For example.... Someone with a lot of Fire and Water in their chart can really burn bright (like a fire) but they can also then put out their own "flames" with the water!"

'tis me sometimes . . .

HOT
COLD
HOT
HOT
HOT
COLD
COLD
CLAMY
MISTY
STEAMY
. . .

BURNING


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posted October 31, 2002 03:15 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

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Cat
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posted October 31, 2002 03:19 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Cat     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Aphrodite

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Cat
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posted October 31, 2002 03:23 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Cat     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi Poops
Yes your nodes are correct and they are opposite each other
If you actually look at your chart you hopefully will be able to see that.
Aries/Libra are always opposite each other plus so are the 4th & 10th houses.
Let me know what's confusing you and I'll try to clarify it for you
Sue

PS: Pisces is opposite Virgo (just so you don't confuse that) Hmm not sure why you would think they were opposites?

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posted October 31, 2002 04:09 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi again Cat,
Don't worry about me, I've just gone a little insane

When Mercy said that the S/N should be the direct opposite of the N/N or she has gone wacko, I looked at my chart at thought it must be wrong

How embarassment, at least now you can see why I'm doing this course, it's a case of HAVING TOO!:BLUSHING:

I'd better run now and apply those "L" plates again!

Sorry for all the confusion, but I'm an expert at that when it comes to trying to work all this out.......


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Cat
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posted October 31, 2002 04:52 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Cat     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi Poops

No problem...you'll soon be an expert

Sue

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posted October 31, 2002 05:38 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hiya Poops and Cat,

Maybe I read something wrong in Poops's former post and maybe therefor I spread some confusion. Thought Poops mentioned one of her Nodes being for instance 12 degrees and the other 4 so I was like... ??
That's why. Anyway, now it is CLEAR! Didn't mean to spread such choas!

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