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bewitched
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posted April 02, 2004 12:10 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I've been thinking of time travel now for a while and I always thought it was possible. But as I started thinking of it really really carefully I don't see how. Can you tell me your theories in your own words? Someone's going to lend me a book on Stephen Hawking.

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posted April 02, 2004 03:44 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Anyone here see The Butterfly Effect?

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posted April 02, 2004 12:45 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Randall you took the words right out of my mouth

That movie was amazing!!


Randall since I have you here, in one of your posts on timetravel with the example of Hitler where you go back in time to kill him as a baby and you say your timeline doesn't change you create a new timeline. My question is how do you change your own timeline the one you were on originally? Or how do you heal your own timeline if you keep creating a new one.

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posted April 02, 2004 01:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You can't, because what has happened has happened. To do so would violate everyone else's Free Will.

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posted April 03, 2004 11:07 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
What did you think of the ending?

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posted April 03, 2004 03:57 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I think the movie is saying that in karmic relationships you can't win. No matter how you try to go back in the past and make the situation better. At the end even though they were grown up and there was no more danger he still stayed away from her.

What do you think?

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posted April 03, 2004 09:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I think it was an okay movie until the ending, and then it became great. He gave her up, so she could be happy. Love is never selfish.

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posted April 04, 2004 05:07 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
From John Titor

Is spiritual awakening a difficult process?

I believe spiritual awakening is difficult. Why? I think God wants us back but the road we have to haul is no picnic. MAYBE HE'S A LITTLE ANGRY FOR SOME REASON.


That's an understatement


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posted April 05, 2004 07:54 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

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posted April 10, 2004 11:28 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
There is something about John that everyone seems to agree he knows something on a deeper level. Maybe he's from the future but from an advanced planet and he didn't come here with his 'car' but in another method and he only said a car to make us relate a bit. Or maybe he's not just from the future but some caring aliens who have foreseen this problem and helped. We all seem to agree and feel there is definitely something more to him.

Another thing he said "who do you think
stopped the Y2K"? I think some superiour beings had to stop Y2K. There was also a contradiction. In the example on top about Hitler if someone went back in time to kill Hitler as a baby than we would create another timeline. So when John mentions who do you think stopped Y2K than again how could someone go back in time and stop Y2K he would have created another worldline and it wouldn't be in our reality. How would that work? Could we still be aware of a problem of Y2K and have it fixed? If so than we can fix/heal our worldline?

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posted April 11, 2004 01:08 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Alas! You'll never believe it.

New time travellers have emerged and were posting a while back on a website together. One of them was on a mission to retrieve John Titor who did not leave back to 2036. John Titor actually stayed behind when he said he actually left. Read more on this website, even if you're skeptical it makes for an interesting read.

http://www.timetravelinstitute.com/ttiforum/showflat.php?Cat=&Board=time_travel&Number=14934&page=0&view=collapsed&sb=5&o=&fpart=1&vc=1

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posted April 11, 2004 02:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for juniperb     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Star. There`s a post saying he died There`s a lot of readng over there.

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posted April 11, 2004 06:39 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Wow thanks starlover33!

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posted April 11, 2004 07:29 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Oh my God did you hear the story of Florida Jim!

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posted April 11, 2004 11:31 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
What happened to Florida Jim?

Did you read the string from the man claiming to be from 2500 or something? He said some pretty neat stuff even if they're not true. Over the next centuries some really cool stuff are going to happen. He said 68 billion people will inhabit the Earth, Moon, and Mars. However people will no longer believe in religion or god for that matter, because they'll be in contact with aliens and find new planets. Exactly what Linda believed. Allaluia! People will still die, but will live up to 135. Pretty good, but it ain't heaven yet.

-StarLover

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posted April 12, 2004 01:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

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posted April 12, 2004 02:34 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Well Florida Jim was one of the people who gave John an email to bring back to 1998 here is what he said:


Ok Charlie, I’ll tell you the story and you let me know if you can see a way that I would remember the previous time-line without having personally traveled:

As John prepared to “depart” in March, 2001 he offered to send emails on our behalf to ourselves in 2036 or 1998 (where he purported to be stopping on his way back to 1975 before returning to 2036). I chose to send an email to 1998 understanding, from John’s description, that the email would not actually arrive on this worldline’s 1998 but an alternate worldline’s 1998. The email contained personal photos, details of events in my life from 1998 to 2001 and financial information such as winning lottery numbers and stock market statistics for those three years.

Several weeks after sending that email, I had a sequence of powerful deja vus that were different from anything I’d ever experienced before. After that, I began to notice subtle but distinct changes in my reality. A store appeared out of nowhere on a road I travel all the time yet my wife believed it to have been there “all along.” Burger King changed their corporate logo overnight but again, my wife remembered it just being that way. I saw a “new” television show that I remembered seeing before but it ended differently than the version I had seen. Little details added up to a definite change in my reality.

I wasn’t the only one to experience such changes. Other people who sent John their emails had similarly bizarre experiences. It was frightening and fascinating.

In late January of this year I had another day of powerful deja vus. This time, I knew exactly what it was because of my experience in 2001. That day, I drove up a road in the afternoon and passed an empty field. That same evening I drove past that previously empty field and found a furniture store on that spot. I found out later it had been there for years from everyone else’s perspective but, for me, it materialized out of thin air. Again, I kept finding subtle little changes in my reality.

Is it a coincidence that we sent John emails for the past and experienced such things? Is it a coincidence that the person calling himself “Ardon Krep” and claiming to be a time-traveler and a student of John’s was here when I experienced that second day of reality changing deja vus?
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I didn't read the rest of your post I don't
want to spoil the surpise when I read it finish reading it today!

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posted April 13, 2004 02:56 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Very fascinating!

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posted April 14, 2004 01:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

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posted April 20, 2004 11:09 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Randall,

In the future, Science and Evolution will be the new religion. It won't be called a religion, but we no better. People will be excatly the same as they are now...confused!! However, we'll be able to travel to different planets meeting all kinds of various aliens. Andromeda we'll be a trading post for a lot of planets. We discover that most planets are still in their primitive stages. Venus will be a planet for farming. can you believe that?

Oh you'll never believe what this guy mentions. An alien race called the Lizarans who look exactly like lizards. We sound like we are on very friendly terms with them. But something I sense is EXTREMELY fishy! I think we're going to discover that not all alien races are peaceful. This world has a long standing history and tradition when it comes to lizards.

Look what this ignorant, but innocent time traveller mentions: "I don't know about easter island or anything like that but I know the egyptians never built the pyramids. According to the Lizarans a much older race built them who have since died of a mysterious plague that wipedout everyone on their planet. The pyramids are essentially weapons that destroy incoming asteroids or deflect them away from earth but they only deflect or destroy meteors that could destroy the world.

The Lizarans are a real RACE...sniff...sniff...do you smell Set?

500 years from now there will be a friendly government that will govern the world, and New York City will be the capitol. People will think that god is an unfriendly hypocrite who created disease and suffering. Porno and cyber sex will still be as rampant as it is now, and also dreaded advertising. Get this, Britney Spears might pose nude for playboy, and the future will still have her pictures in the internet, and will upload her for cyber sex as well as many other famous celebrities during this era. Laser weapons will be possible in the future, and people will travel in ships up in space. I hate to say this, but war in space may be a possibility that could end up trying to destroy this world once more. Set's deception has made it's way in all eras, and it's going to take a long time before we untangle everything.

BILL COOPER WAS RIGHT ON THE NAIL!! Look what this time traveller says about aliens in our own time: I know the planets the extraterrestrials are on but I wouldn't be able to do it on a map (can't read maps properly). Anyway the american government is in contact with one lot of aliens right now(the lizarans and yes they do look a bit like lizards). They are trying to get them to trade technology but they won't at this moment except for technology that they had about 1000 years ago. The lizarans get oil back (it is a delicacy drink where they are).

Is it possible that the Lizarans were with us all along? The Lizarans could have been the ones who showed us a hologram of Jesus being crucified, and also may have warned us of the coming events.

-StarLover

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posted April 20, 2004 02:24 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
according to randall, set has repented, so wouldn't that render all his mayhem null?

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posted April 20, 2004 03:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Nope, because he set in motion things that he could no longer control.

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posted April 20, 2004 11:20 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
so he hasn't, or doesn't do anything to stop it? if he truly repented, wouldn't he at least try?

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posted April 21, 2004 12:01 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It's weird, but I know for some reason that Set is truly sorry for this. He can't change other people because that would be affecting everyone else's Free Will Tinker Toys. If he could, he would, but because all eras are ONE all has been SET into motion, and the endless dominoes keep falling down. It's all been SET-UP, and you can't do anything about it. However, all is not lost, more and more people will turn torward the light when their time is right. We have eternity, and the endless planets out there. LOVE will eventually take care of everything. Everyone has been judged and will pay their karmic dues accordingly.

-StarLover

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posted April 21, 2004 12:19 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I don't really think there will be space wars, but when I read about the Lizarans the thought actually crossed my mind. It probably won't happen, heck, it might not even be true. You never know, but some of the things he said are quite possible within a 500 year span.

He also mentioned that the constitution in Iraq will only last for five years, but then there will be a civil war in their country, and it will go right back to dictatorship.

Randall, what do you think of the information from the top? Does any of it actually ring true? Are you bit shocked as I am? It makes sense to me that Science would eventually win out. People will believe in evolution, and that only strong people survive. However, there will still be a few who will not believe that. Christainity will exist as a very small sect. Heck even Satanism will still exist. There will be billions more people on the earth. People will rely on technology as much as they do now. But no one will use airplanes, but actually will use teleportation devices. People will still use 10% of their brain, and the only advancement we'll have with our minds are the few people who claim they have ESP.

He also mentions that there will be a small ice age around the UK, but will be changed after NASA creates something to stop it. Hey, look on the bright side Britain is still going to hang strong, and so will Australia.

-StarLover

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