posted January 06, 2004 04:16 PM            

juniperb

posted January 06, 2004 08:17 PM              

Me being me, I made a beeline for the "John's War" section. Civil war in 2005. Hmmm. I have little doubt in the inevitability of it, but the date seems a bit off. Of course, timeline's change.

I rather liked his characterization of post-war Australia. "Reculsive and ticked-off." God I love the Aussies!

His comment on post-war Hawaii was both funny and frightening as hell.

"A farmer-general who leads us to victory" Liked that. "looking up at the sky in defiance of God after his father was killed" Didn't like that.

"will you readily be able to identify the enemy?"
"Yes. They will be the ones arresting and holding people without due process"
Apocalyptic humor. Funny!

Anyway, whether you believe the time-travel stuff or not, and even putting the Nostradamus-like prophecies aside, a lot of thought provoking stuff. I encourage everyone to dive in.

Thanks Juniperb

posted January 06, 2004 08:59 PM            

(16) There is a civil war in the United States that starts in 2005. That conflict flares up and down for 10 years. In 2015, Russia launches a nuclear strike against the major cities in the United States (which is the "other side" of the civil war from my perspective), China and Europe. The United States counter attacks. The US cities are destroyed along with the AFE (American Federal Empire)...thus we (in the country) won. The European Union and China were also destroyed. Russia is now our largest trading partner and the Capitol of the US was moved to Omaha Nebraska.

I loved the notion of returning to a family oriented society and regaining farming skills. In a way, didn`t the future reflect the 1930-40`s post war era?

juniperb

posted January 07, 2004 10:39 AM            

Can you tell us the foods that are unsafe now? Is there anything we can do to prepare for the war you are describing?

(40) I tried to consolidate your questions into a basic list. I hope this helps.

1. Do not eat or use products from any animal that is fed and eats parts of its own dead.

2. Do not kiss or have intimate relations with anyone you do not know.

3. Learn basic sanitation and water purification.

4. Be comfortable around firearms. Learn to shoot and clean a gun.

5. Get a good first aid kit and learn to use it.

6. Find 5 people within 100 miles that you trust with your life and stay in contact with them.

7. Get a copy of the US Constitution and read it.

8. Eat less.

9. Get a bicycle and two sets of spare tires. Ride it 10 miles a week.

10. Consider what you would bring with you if you had to leave your home in 10 min. and never return.

What event started the war? Can it be stopped?

(41) The war is a result of faulty politics and desperation from Western leadership during the US civil war. Yes, I suppose you could stop it.

In particular this statement. I don`t understand the correlation. Any insight?

Are some areas of the United States safer than others?

(42) Take a close look at the county-by-county voting map from the last elections.

juniperb

posted January 07, 2004 05:39 PM              

At first I was thinking about how it's just another bogus website trying to reel in the gullible people like myself.

But afterwhile I started thinking that some of the stuff he wrote is rather feasible in the future.

We'll know the truth soon enough.

It's high time to take care of ourselves...maybe even become vegetarians. I don't like the sound of Mad Cow. It has already hit a state.

posted January 07, 2004 09:39 PM              

Very much enjoyed his "helpful hints". All of them useful any day of the week. In particular, I found his advice regarding gun ownership compelling. He advises us to learn to shoot and clean a gun but warns against stockpiling them. For fear af calling attention to yourself, of course. Unexpected.

That comment about the country-by-country voting map struck me too. A riddle. My only immediate guess (and it's probably to obvious to be true) is that NOWHERE is safe. I dunno. Al didn't win very much, did he?

Did anybody notice the slight contradiction regarding income taxes?

If I were a good lexigrammer I would take a stab at john titor. (hint, hint)

Thanking God again that I'm a vegetarian.

What did you think of the "time machine" pics, Juniperb?

tink

posted January 08, 2004 11:59 AM              

It was interesting to read about five presidents instead of one. He also said there was a pope but he didn't know his name. He said Europe is a mess and South America was left barely touched. He writes Canada is no longer a good country. He does mention something about Australia, but I don't remember.

He also wrote the constitution is a bit different, he did not snub any comments about the NWO. He writes that the civil war in 2005 gets caused by faulty politics. If this is really true it must have something to do with the elections, and also the loss of some liberties. However, everytime I think about civil war it sounds completely ridiculous. I mean right now people seem too complacent.

Right now, John Titor would be about 6 years old. He writes that he didn't get a high school education, and was a soldier by age 13. He does write that the enemy is our government, and that Russia attacks them which causes "us" to win the Civil War.

Then China sees us being weak which causes them to attack us, this makes us counterattack them. The rest of the world gets hit by our waves, which then causes WWIII by 2015. He writes that 3 billion people end up dying by starvation, poison, disease, and bullet wounds.

He also writes that people are very religious and that christianity has been brocken down into different groups. He says there is no longer a centralized religion. I think he meant organization. Most people are into Hinduism, Buddism, and Islam. He writes that the average life span is 60 and people just accept death as a way of life.

However, I think John Titor might be a jerk just conning people. Then again, we'll see in 2005 what happens!

-StarLover

posted January 08, 2004 05:00 PM              

After reading everything, I find option 3 verry unlikely, leaving options 1 and 2. I really love how the very nature of Multi wordline theory allows for him to say what would happen, have it happen completely different and still have him be telling the truth, if he is a con artist he did his research, he played it almost exactly like I would if I was running a scam, however, as he said he is not trying to sell anything, so if he is lying, he is only doing it as a study in human interaction, or because he was bored and decided to run a really involved prank.

As far as his pictures go, the quality is really low, so it is nearly impossible to tell what the pictures are of, but I could take apart a couple stereo's and a microwave and throw the parts in a box, put some lights in it and take pictures and claim it was just about anything I want, especially with low quality pictures like his. On the flip side, that is a lot of trouble to go to for a hoax. As for the information about the research that later appears to have been proven correct, he already mention his grandfather worked for IBM, which is heavy into research, it is possible he had inside information on new discoveries passed on by friends at the companies, that kind of thing happens all the time. The rest is the best part, because if it is a hoax, he chose the right theory to use, since no matter if any predictions he makes come true or not it still does prove him real or not.

Regardless of his legitimacy, I like the information he gives, since even if he is a phoney, at least his theory and research is all sound and extremely possible. I never once saw anything that is not within the realm of possibility. In fact I would not be surprised at all to discover that a time machine could be built using the principals he describes.

posted January 08, 2004 06:24 PM              

The pictures were also low in my opinion. The quality of the machine looked like scraps put together.

posted January 12, 2004 01:13 PM              

Being that the dates are created by man I can see where you would draw this conclusion, but in reading his explanation of the machine, it does not pinpoint a specific date but just selecting say May 5, 1974, the interface amy allow you to do this but the machine then converts that from a date to a number of seconds, this number being the number of second forwards or backwards that you want to go, then when you initialize the machine, it travels bacwards or forwads in time that number of seconds, and as he said it is not an instant thing, as he perceives it it travels at a rate of about 10 years per hour, so it is really like beind on a super fast rewind, and the counter is the number of seconds between where you were and where you want to be. And while seconds are also a man-made construct, they are based on a universla thing which is genrally percieved the same way to most people. Since they have been reasonably reliable for people to measure the passage of time, they would also be reasonable able to measure your travel through time.

And the genious of this whole idea of multiple wordlines, is that his predictions can be completely inaccurate without hurting his credibility at all. So and hurt or pain caused by this information is no more his fault that if anyone else were to give their opinon on the effect of global warming on the environment. If thing happeneds differently and someone who listened to them felt hurt, would that be the person who gave the opinion's fault? Especially if they stated that their predictions may not be completely accurate, as John has done? He himself repeatedly said that the nature of multi-worldline theory makes it so that this could happen completely differently for use than they did for him.

So, I don't see how he is hurting anyone, any more than anyone else who gives an opinion or their own observations about the future. Granting he is claiming to have been there, but he also claims he cannot make accurate predictions due to the multi-worldline technicality, so anything he says has the possibility of being wrong without making him a phoney.

posted January 12, 2004 01:26 PM            

If you had a time machine in a car in Florida, or where ever, and it managed to send you back 50 or 60 years (or to any time) wouldn't your car be sitting in empty space? The earth is no longer where it was 50 years ago. It moves constantly, as does the whole solar system. So for a time machine to work, wouldn't it have to be in a space craft of some kind? Then you could, theoretically, locate the earth and land on it in the time to which you have chosen to travel?

posted January 12, 2004 01:32 PM            

Either way you believe, this is fascinating and has gave us all pause to think about the future in a different vein.

As time plays out, we will have these posts to reflect back on and see where the events/predictions have taken us.

juniperb