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Mblake81 unregistered	posted March 14, 2011 02:14 PM quote: Originally posted by Randall: So...accept it and then control it? You control it by observation, what is your ego wanting? what is it telling you? IP: Logged
charmainec Knowflake Posts: 8746 From: Venus next to Randall Registered: Apr 2009	posted March 15, 2011 05:00 AM ORBM, I hope you don’t mind me sharing this. When I was dealing with a stressful situation especially where negative emotions surface I was instructed to not dwell in those feelings (anger etc) but to unattach myS-elf from them and look from the outside in. This is part of letting go of the Ego. We can’t think rationally when we are overcome with those emotions. It’s when we are unattached from the emotion that we can get a better understanding of the “whys?” We can then see the greater lesson without all the mist clouding our ‘I’s’. This is a short, simplified version. Or it may just be rambles? Gosh is this even the right topic.. ------------------ quote: I'm everyone.. paint your label on me.. Sneaker Pimps IP: Logged
oneruledbymars Knowflake Posts: 1081 From: New York Registered: Apr 2009	posted March 15, 2011 11:28 AM haha Charmaine thats awesome and so true. I think this is where air signs have a slight advantage in the ability to detach. IP: Logged
oneruledbymars Knowflake Posts: 1081 From: New York Registered: Apr 2009	posted March 15, 2011 11:31 AM Randall and Mblake81 I ran across this awesome article and thought about our discussion here. Whoever wrote this stole my mind! LOL Enjoy.. Erle Frayne D. Argonza Magandang hapon! Good afternoon! Almost everyone experiences fear, among which is the fear of the Devil. Why not re-examine your behavior, and one time or another you’d be going through the rituals of demonizing people around you: neighbor, fellow officesmate, Saddam Hussein, or anybody outside of you who would exemplify the Demon-incarnate. Fellows, the demon is right inside of you, so please don’t over-bother yourself with looking for demons outside of you. True, there are ‘devils’ (fallen angels, negative aliens of the Reptilian type) and ‘demons’ (interdimensional demented beings) everywhere, but you failed to see this Inner Demon inside of you. Mind you, we all have this petty demon inside of us, and it matters how we manage to rise above its dictates on us—through the Primal Self, or desire-driven pursuits. Inside of us too is an ‘etheric double’ that looks just like us. It is our doppelganger, and at times it can disengage from us, show up elsewhere and materialize right there, looking exactly just like us, and then moves back to be re-integrated into your physical body. The doppelganger is the repository of everything negative in us, becomes our ghost when our soul departs with the astral body, and disintegrates after around 500 years or so. Our Inner Demon necessarily nestles in the doppelganger, they are One. Since we all tap Light from above, at varying grades of intensity (masters and mystics tap the greatest), the question that arises is: for what purpose do we use that Light? If 51% of the time the Light is used for Primal pursuits, than chances are that we have become Demonic or moved over to our Dark Side, ceased to be human, and is a hazardous Thing that moves around freely. If at least 51% of the time the Light is used for service-for-others, loving others, productive pursuits, and constructive engagements, than we end up more human at the end of our life. Better if 75% of the time we use the Light or ‘spirit’ for higher purposes, and only 25% or lower for primal-sinning purposes. This way, we have a chance to evolve a bit higher, and when we reincarnate at some other time, we will be of a better quality of being. What do we do to get this Inner Demon down the drain? Tough question, fellow Earthan. Should we control our passions, thus ending up with a tamed Inner Demon? Lucifer taught us that Path before, and it backfired. I am myself not in frequency with those who use a ‘passion control’ method, like the Born Again, fundamentalists, and their likes who are, in effect, wittingly or unwittingly serving Lucifer. Controlling passions will only lead to our repetitive return in the physical plane without nary a bit of soul improvement. Lucifer saw the result of his flawed prescription, and he never repented at all about it. Bad! Arrogant! From a Being of so much Light, a producer of Light himself, who till the end of his “last breath” was producing Light and sharing this to His own minions. The better way is through gradual deprogramming renunciation. Gradually, deprogram each of your vices (opposite of virtues), and then consequently build virtues. This is not the same as controlling passions. On the contrary, if passions strike you while still young, go ahead and flow with it for a while, and then realizing thereafter that flowing with the Primal brings you down, then you yourself with rise up above the passions and flow with the Light or beneficial energies instead. Remember the story of Mary Magdala? She rode astride her Inner Demon for some time, both for survival (she has to make a living through commercial sex) and probably for pleasure (sex, wine, controlling people were damn good pleasures). Until the World Teacher, Jesus Christ, arrived in her life and she had this paradigm shift. Now, do you ever know of any occasion when Jesus condemned passions the way Lucifer did? “He who hasn’t sinned will cast the first stone,” was his candid declaration to the folks who wished to condemn a sex worker & sinner. In that process, the respective Inner Demon of the folks were projected unconsciously on the sinner, and as a matter of expiation exercise they would have stoned their own same Inner Demon. And the horror of it is that another person will die due to their own sinfulness. See? In some previous writings of mine, I already elaborated on the matter of deprogramming of vices, building virtues, the use of prayers and meditations for enhancing divinity, and related spiritual technologies. They are the ones that are easily applicable and practicable, so I’m recommending that you examine their efficacy. Again, fellow Earthans, let me repeat, the more dangerous Inner Demon is just right inside of you rather than those external ones. Even if there were 1 Billion demons and devils surrounding you, like they did to the baby Krishna, if you are vibrating at higher frequency, are virtuous and possess a strong aura that is truly protective of your being, then those Evil Ones will never be able to attack nor destroy you. On the contrary, they would snub you, feeling frustrated and giving up on their annoying abominations. So, Dear One, please work out to tame your Inner Demon and your doppelganger as well. Don’t enslave it as this will certainly lead to schizophrenia. If you get to that point of manic-depressive disorder, your Inner Demon-doppelganger will then invite external Evil Ones who will possess you collectively. It may take another lifetime before the possession will be corrected and healed. Or, you may end up becoming demonic yourself, and may take many lives before you attain relative self-integration. Learn how to dance with your Inner Demon and eventually tame it, making it conform to your will. It can be done, mind you, yes it can. The various teachers and masters have demonstrated to us the tools to do them. Have the will, courage, patience, you will be able to tame this Inner Demon. May you succeed in this noble task of yours. Carpe diem! [Writ 09 May 2008, Quezon City, MetroManila] IP: Logged
charmainec Knowflake Posts: 8746 From: Venus next to Randall Registered: Apr 2009	posted March 16, 2011 05:33 AM quote: Originally posted by oneruledbymars: Again, fellow Earthans, let me repeat, the more dangerous Inner Demon is just right inside of you rather than those external ones. Even if there were 1 Billion demons and devils surrounding you, like they did to the baby Krishna, if you are vibrating at higher frequency, are virtuous and possess a strong aura that is truly protective of your being, then those Evil Ones will never be able to attack nor destroy you. On the contrary, they would snub you, feeling frustrated and giving up on their annoying abominations. So, Dear One, please work out to tame your Inner Demon and your doppelganger as well. Don’t enslave it as this will certainly lead to schizophrenia. If you get to that point of manic-depressive disorder, your Inner Demon-doppelganger will then invite external Evil Ones who will possess you collectively. It may take another lifetime before the possession will be corrected and healed. Or, you may end up becoming demonic yourself, and may take many lives before you attain relative self-integration. Learn how to dance with your Inner Demon and eventually tame it, making it conform to your will. It can be done, mind you, yes it can. The various teachers and masters have demonstrated to us the tools to do them. Have the will, courage, patience, you will be able to tame this Inner Demon. May you succeed in this noble task of yours. Carpe diem! IP: Logged
Randall Webmaster Posts: 95926 From: From a galaxy, far, far away... Registered: Apr 2009	posted March 16, 2011 10:18 AM Thanks, ORBM! ------------------ "Never mentally imagine for another that which you would not want to experience for yourself, since the mental image you send out inevitably comes back to you." Rebecca Clark IP: Logged
Randall Webmaster Posts: 95926 From: From a galaxy, far, far away... Registered: Apr 2009	posted March 21, 2011 05:48 PM I converted my inner Demon. ------------------ "Never mentally imagine for another that which you would not want to experience for yourself, since the mental image you send out inevitably comes back to you." Rebecca Clark IP: Logged
Mblake81 unregistered	posted March 22, 2011 11:13 AM I have found that some of my personal directives come from the crown chakra itself. More will come when I have less personal agendas. IP: Logged
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Randall Webmaster Posts: 95926 From: From a galaxy, far, far away... Registered: Apr 2009	posted August 09, 2011 09:33 AM Some very cool stuff in this string. ------------------ "To avoid criticism, say nothing, do nothing, be nothing." Aristotle IP: Logged
charmainec Knowflake Posts: 8746 From: Venus next to Randall Registered: Apr 2009	posted August 11, 2011 01:56 AM IP: Logged
Randall Webmaster Posts: 95926 From: From a galaxy, far, far away... Registered: Apr 2009	posted August 12, 2011 04:18 PM Wish he would come around more with these gems. ------------------ "To avoid criticism, say nothing, do nothing, be nothing." Aristotle IP: Logged
oneruledbymars Knowflake Posts: 1081 From: New York Registered: Apr 2009	posted August 12, 2011 08:03 PM Randall! Ive been meaning to get to this thread. I have a channeling I would like to share. And its has to do somewhat with the Ego because its talking about lower based emotions, namely that of control and how it causes us to be resistent to change...can't wait to hear you guys' thoughts: I am Kuthumi and I am here to tell you a bit more of what is happening and what you can do to support the new energies coming in on August 13 of this year. There is much turmoil and much fear of what is happening as the world is seemingly collapsing around you. This is the time to stay updated on what is in fact happening and not close your eyes as many are likely to do in these times and want to close their eyes instead of becoming aware of the truth behind it. Many rely upon the messages brought out and do not search for the answers where they can be found. This is the time where you think about change, hope and a new world view that needs to emerge. This can only be done if you know the world view moment to moment and know within yourself what the new view can be. This is a world that is controlled by fear and people who know how to use this fear to control you. This is not something new and has always been a big problem no matter what time or age. At this moment you have the illuminati; they control the banks, many governments and more. This is not new either as they have been in control of churches, temples and many of the established governments over hundreds, even thousands of years. To think that by removing them, the world will change for the better is a simple view that needs to be looked at by all of you. There will always be groups that want control; even you want control as you want your world view, what you think should change upon this earth. Yes it might be a large group of people that have this new consciousness view for the earth, but still not every person on earth is going to want this. You might think why would they not want this, they will like it once it is there. This is not a reality at this moment as the awakening only involves a small group of people and those that are not awake will not see all that is involved in a new consciousness view. This is about control, discipline and awakening. This is about self-control, discipline and awakening. You cannot control others, you can only control yourself and this is what you need to realize and be aware of. You have to have the discipline to keep that control of yourself and not fall back into your old ways of fear. You also have to have discipline in not controlling others; you cannot force others to take your worldview. This is what is happening as big groups are coming together to bring in the new energies with the intent to bring this in to change consciousness of all others on earth. This is not possible as we have said before as you cannot force others to accept these energies. Yes you can come together in groups and bring in those energies, but be aware of your intent, as some have the intent that is control of others in a way to force others to accept these energies. Let your intent be that the energies will benefit you and the earth. Let the intent be to make available these energies to the ones that will awaken at one point and they will be able to use these energies if they choose to do so. Being aware of all possibilities, being aware of all changes is something that you can do at all times from every place in the world. Not closing your eyes from what is happening on earth, we know many have turned off the TV as to not be influenced by what is happening on earth as much of what is happening brings them fear. If this is what is happening to you, you still have fear and you need to work on this. The changes and turmoil upon earth are not what is giving you fear, you are still holding this fear within you. Fear of being controlled, fear of not being able to change. The change has to come from each and every person on earth and by closing your eyes from that which can bring you fear is not real change. If you do not release this you will bring it with you into the new world. Change is also needed when you look at the governments of your world. Many people within your governments are already of the new wave and more of them are needed to bring in the change within the governments that is needed to move into the new world. The biggest problem with most governments at this time is that they have made you reliant upon them. You have given them that power, now it’s time to take your power back by choosing the people into your government that will give the power back to the people. Yes these are hard times for many in many countries. But reliance upon the government that is controlled by many of the ones that control through fear is not what you need to move into the new world. Yes it is going to require you to choose the new government whenever you have the chance to make a change. This is why we suggest you become fully aware of what is happening within your governments, who are the ones that actually stand for change, who are the ones that are willing to fight to give the power back to the people. This means watching some TV, search on the internet, become aware of who is representing you within these governments. Do your own research. Become involved in what is happening on earth, be aware of all that is happening and why it is happening. Do not follow the words of one person, search within the words of many. The same for the channelings available, search within all of them, not just the ones that suit your view or needs. This change on earth is your change. It is not the change of the Masters, the Galactic Federation or any other being that is not on earth at this moment. It is the change of the people that are on earth, they are the ones that have to change. Releasing fear, but also releasing control and a mindset of what you think should happen, as this will limit the outcome of what could happen. The only way to release control is to release it from within you. The only way to real change is make the change within you. This is what was taught in the old mystery schools, the temples and throughout all ages. People were not focused on awakening others. They used their control to change themselves. You cannot control the world around you, but you can control the world within you. Another thing we would like to talk about is how you are being controlled as there are many different ways of control and Isis will come to tell you about this. Welcome, I am Isis and I would like to speak about the many forms of control that are being used on earth at this moment. The biggest one is of course fear, as you all know, fear paralyzes you and prevents you from becoming the being you are within spirit in many ways. Once you start to release that fear and become more of what you are in spirit, there are other forms of control that will be used. Hope and change by others is one of them, it’s all about the “Others” that are going to be there to assist you in this change. This will keep you waiting and waiting for the change to happen and in the meantime you are not making the changes within you to the fullest of what is possible as you are waiting for the “Others” to change the world around you. Then we have the ones that say we need you, we need your light, and we need your help to do this. We all need to work together to change this world, we need to bring in the change, and we need to bring the change to all. This is the one that sounds the best as this is what you all want. You want everyone on earth to wake up and be part of the new world. You have to read between the lines, why is your light needed, what are they planning to do with it? What is their intent? Activations of every one on earth, activating other people on earth even if it is something that is within every person already and most of the time it is. It is not possible, you cannot force another person, you cannot force another being, and they have to make their own choices as to how and when they activate these possibilities within them. The change happens within each person in their own time and in their own way. There is no magic device or magic energy that can be brought in to make that change happen within each person upon earth. Now this does not mean the people who are doing this have bad intentions, they usually have good intentions. But they forget about control and how each and every person on earth was gifted with free will. And of course, yes there are ones with intentions that are not so good, that is for you to decide, for you to decipher and find out. This new date of August 13, 2011 is a good date for setting intentions, but intentions for your own change, your own life. Setting the intention of what you want to change within your own life, and how you can be part of the change in the world around you in a way that does not interfere with others in a way that interferes with their free will. Changes have to be made, governments need to change, and ways of how to use the resources that the earth has given you need to change. You are the ones making those changes, making choices for each of you personally no matter how that will affect others; the choices are to be made by each person. Conscious change from within you is the only thing that is important. You cannot change others; you can only lead by example, by making your own decisions and choices and in this way showing other they can make their own decisions and choices. This cannot be done by force; this cannot be done by activating something within others that is not of their choosing at this time. This is what you need to become aware of; this is what many do not understand at this time. Choices are to be made by you and you alone, all the groups out there not of your earth can say anything, can give you answers, directions and more, but they cannot interfere with this. Any group who says they can is not telling you the truth. They are not here to interfere as they cannot interfere with free will. This is why you need to discern and start your own research, make your own decisions and choices as this is what can bring the new earth. No other being can do it for you. This is what you can control; you can control your own decisions in how you want to be within the new earth. You cannot control how the new earth will change others as this is not your choice to make. Anything else is just a repeat of what is happening on your earth at this moment. A small group controlling the way others are living. Isis and Kuthumi Views: 26 IP: Logged
charmainec Knowflake Posts: 8746 From: Venus next to Randall Registered: Apr 2009	posted November 10, 2012 11:21 PM I miss your guidance and advice, ORBM. ------------------ quote: Remember, love can conquer the influences of the planets....It can even eliminate karma. Linda Goodman IP: Logged
Randall Webmaster Posts: 95926 From: From a galaxy, far, far away... Registered: Apr 2009	posted November 11, 2012 02:40 PM You are missed at LL also. ------------------ "Never mentally imagine for another that which you would not want to experience for yourself, since the mental image you send out inevitably comes back to you." Rebecca Clark IP: Logged
Randall Webmaster Posts: 95926 From: From a galaxy, far, far away... Registered: Apr 2009	posted November 15, 2012 12:27 PM ------------------ "Fall down 100 times, get up 101...this is success." --ME IP: Logged
charmainec Knowflake Posts: 8746 From: Venus next to Randall Registered: Apr 2009	posted January 31, 2013 05:55 AM ------------------ quote: Remember, love can conquer the influences of the planets....It can even eliminate karma. Linda Goodman IP: Logged
bridgetostars23 Knowflake Posts: 596 From: virginia, usa Registered: Dec 2012	posted January 31, 2013 03:43 PM This has always been my question. And I've varied from either extreme and to me either extreme was basically the same thing. I am off to research a lot of what I read in here.... IP: Logged
charmainec Knowflake Posts: 8746 From: Venus next to Randall Registered: Apr 2009	posted January 31, 2013 04:20 PM Cool beans. ------------------ quote: Remember, love can conquer the influences of the planets....It can even eliminate karma. Linda Goodman IP: Logged
Randall Webmaster Posts: 95926 From: From a galaxy, far, far away... Registered: Apr 2009	posted January 31, 2013 04:47 PM Cold legumes! ------------------ "Don't worry about the world coming to an end today. It's already tomorrow in Australia." Charles Schultz IP: Logged
Randall Webmaster Posts: 95926 From: From a galaxy, far, far away... Registered: Apr 2009	posted February 01, 2013 07:54 AM Frozen pods! ------------------ "Don't worry about the world coming to an end today. It's already tomorrow in Australia." Charles Schultz IP: Logged
Randall Webmaster Posts: 95926 From: From a galaxy, far, far away... Registered: Apr 2009	posted February 02, 2013 09:40 AM Slushy greens! ------------------ "Don't worry about the world coming to an end today. It's already tomorrow in Australia." Charles Schultz IP: Logged
Randall Webmaster Posts: 95926 From: From a galaxy, far, far away... Registered: Apr 2009	posted February 03, 2013 09:10 AM Grrr. Out of cold temperature descriptors. ------------------ "Don't worry about the world coming to an end today. It's already tomorrow in Australia." Charles Schultz IP: Logged
Xiiro Knowflake Posts: 1754 From: San Diego CA, USA Registered: Jun 2011	posted February 17, 2013 11:16 PM There are a lot of views on this topic. When I first understood it, I believed the right path for me was to destroy the ego. I then met a very brilliant Leo who convinced me that like any aspect of our self, the ego has an important function. As time continued, I learned to cultivate observational skills and i watched ego evolve into a teacher, deeply observable and revealing much. I think a trouble with having a mind is the idea that in order to know a thing, we must attach it to other things. Having emotional attachments (for example) helps us categorize things based on their value to us. A wise person once taught me that when a strong emotion arises, sometimes it is good practice to observe the emotion while thinking ,"This is Sorrow (anger, joy, passion, whatever the emotion is). This sorrow is not me". It reminds us that while emotions arise within us, we are not attached to them, they come and go like dust in a stream. The same can really be said for the ego. The idea that one "owns" an ego can be a destructive view, because in reality the object which we identify as "ego", is a collection of transient attachments and formations which we rely on to establish identity. When one looks deeply, you do not have the same mental formations and emotional attachments you did 10 years ago. In fact, you could learn something enlightening tomorrow and form new attachments based on that new understanding. That which we consider ego is a fluid and changing system, bound only by our mind's desire to solidify (immortalize) self. The truth however is that nothing is immortal or continuous, all things are in a perpetual state of change. When observed, even the ego vanishes on occasions and then arises every time it is conjured. The idea that one has an ego which requires destruction or embrace is in itself a practice which sends us into a binary spiral with our arms tightly wrapped around our ego. Then again, walking around pretending that egos don't exist is ignorant and avoids problems which commonly arise in people. I believe the key to understanding one's self is to allow things to arise within us without labeling or attaching things to them. Allowing them to arise, accepting that they exist, and observing them as they succumb to their own impermanence. This way we avoid boxing our self into ideas like "Because I often do THIS, I must be THIS kind of person". Instead we approach situations with the mindset, "I notice when people treat me THIS way, I want to react THIS way. After looking deeply at the situation, I know THAT response is not a skillful one. How can I best respond in a way that is most beneficial to all involved?" This way you are not bound to play out the routines of your ego, yet you utilize the construct of your personality (ego) to respond in a skillful way to the situation. "The one who bows and the one who is bowed to are both, by nature, empty. Therefore the communication between them is inexpressibly perfect." - Gatha for Touching The Earth. IP: Logged

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