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posted April 18, 2008 11:19 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Drugs. Who needs 'em?

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posted April 19, 2008 09:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

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posted April 21, 2008 08:51 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Man, I really know of some losers (albeit some creative ones) who use weed on a regular basis. It saps all motivation.

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posted April 22, 2008 04:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
That is not to say that everyone who uses regularly is not motivated.

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posted May 10, 2008 10:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Unmoved     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
nay - I've tried it. It makes me feel dumb, so I suppose I am dumb under its influence, and that's not cool. The attention span is short, the drive is lacking, and the paranoia is high so it induces fear too. Who wants that?

I say, save as many neurons as you can because they are one type of cell in our bodies that DO NOT regenerate. Once you have lost a neuron, it's gone forever.

And that is a shame.

My friends and I came up with a saying:

Grass is genocide to braincells. That's how hectic it is. But... for those who smoke it occasionally, I am sure that it doesn't show a big decrease in IQ.

The brain is the biggest asset. I am not preaching since I have done it, but since I know better now, I won't touch the stuff again.

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posted May 11, 2008 03:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I concur with that reasoning.

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posted July 27, 2008 03:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted February 02, 2009 01:27 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dervish     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Not sure why this (and others) are bumped, but...

Overall, don't care.

Personally, I avoid drugs, legal and otherwise, with the notable exception between Thanksgiving and Jan 2. (I don't seek them out, I just allow myself to be persuaded to use minor intoxicants socially, including alcohol, when normally I'd firmly say no.)

That said, I've been around alcoholics and potheads, and generally speaking, I far prefer the potheads, and have accepted from a nurse that alcohol does far more damage. Also, pot usually doesn't stink as bad as tobacco. For that matter, I tend to suspect people who are on legal psyche meds (at least until they prove themselves stable on it) than I am by those who habitually smoke pot.

It's downright evil, IMO, to forbid those very sick to be denied access to it based on nothing more than puritanism.

As it is to kick violent felons out so some kid can be turned into a burden on society with a "mandatory minimum sentence." Or to use potheads as slave labor (as is done). Or to deny those busted with pot of getting college grants to show toughness, but allowing murderers, rapists, and child molesters access. The Drug Warriors "saving" us from drugs have priorities, IMO, far worse than that of many who use illegal drugs.

The War on Some Drugs is also far more destructive to society and the individuals within them than ANY drug (especially pot) will be, and for more than the reasons I already briefly touched on.

Also, there needs to be REAL drug education, not this hysteria-based BS. Because what we have now is counterproductive, in that we (I speak from experience) learn some of it is a lie, and then assume most to all of the warnings are lies--plus, we're angry at having been lied to (did the adults who came up with this nonsense smoke too much and forget the tale of the Boy Who Cried Wolf?)

Oh yeah, as a teen I was annoyed by a PFDFA ad in which surgeons were smoking pot as they were about to operate. It ends, "Do you still think pot should be legal?" Just as I did when I first saw it, I still have to ask WHAT KIND OF DRUGS WERE THEY ON when they came up with that? It would be just as stupid to have them all drink Jack Daniels while preparing to operate and ending with, "Still think alcohol should be legal?" There are some GOOD reasons why kids dismiss these warnings! This is just one example on how groups like the PFDFA destroy their own credibility (and have no cause to be talking about the mental degradation of drug users).

And destroy motivation? Heh, I recall when I got sent to the office for "disrupting the class" because I innocently asked (not yet having realized just how terrified most people were of thinking about what they "think") why if that was the case, then why did the jocks and honor roll students have to take drug tests.

I spent a couple of months almost constantly stoned back when I was 16, with both very good and very bad consequences. I'm glad for the experience, but not one I ever intend to repeat. Interesting enough, TV didn't come off as exceedingly boring & stupid (including the news) while I was stoned (which has made me wonder about the sobriety of the vast number of people really into TV). I also liked to take a lot of walks (especially at dusk/dawn), though paranoia about getting busted did discourage that somewhat.

One last thing is a Russian expat I met that never really mastered English and needed others to translate for her at times. At one point, she absorbed enough PFDFA propaganda and called in for more info. After some difficulty, she realized what they were talking about and laughed at them. "Oh, THAT. That grows wild. Even I used that as kid. You need to lighten up." So saying, she hung up on them and took to ignoring the PFDFA.

Not to say that drugs (and I include legal ones here, too, including chocolate and caffeine, and even TV which has a similar effect on the mind & body) are harmless. Just that the war on some drugs is even more dangerous (and make drugs more dangerous, just as Prohibition saw alcohol become much more dangerous to use).

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Fact-based drug education (instead of the fear-based propaganda currently in use):
http://www.csdp.org/

Students for Sensible Drug Policy:
http://ssdp.org/index.php

Educators for Sensible Drug Policy:
http://efsdp.org/

Law Enforcement Against Prohibition:
http://www.leap.cc/cms/index.php

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I watched a documentary on a religion that is based on smoking marijuana. They believe it makes them closer to god and claim it gets them in touch with their spiritual side. I personally dont smoke it but i know a lot of people who do and one of my neighbors once told me that she smokes it to be closer to god. I dont know if i agree with that but i guess its whatever floats your boat

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posted February 24, 2009 08:35 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for SunChild     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I suppose it can give the illusion of heightened spirituality since everything feels more ethereal and magnified.

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posted February 25, 2009 02:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I concur.

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posted June 25, 2009 12:39 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for D for Defiant     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
NAY!!!

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Marijuana is an ice breaker. To the lame it can be calming, to the advanced souls it can almost seem psychedelic.

Drugs were given to us by The Creator to remind us kind of what it is like in the afterlife. Especially psychedelics. If you deny the power and importance of certain drugs then you are really denying a part of life that is very essential into gaining certain perspective and truths. A shortcut if you will. There are people who abuse drugs and then there are people who use drugs to understand themselves, others and the universe. Do not confuse the two. Those who say drugs are bad do so out of ignorance and/or fear. They have let certain media outlets and blind authorities (parents,religion)put fear and ignorance into them. The American government knows how important, useful and life changing drugs like LSD are as can be seen with certain projects like MKULTRA and media that was released in the 60's to keep people from this liberating drug. Those who are controlled by drugs are just as bad. There is a balance of course in everything.

DMT is a drug that everyone on this forum would love,even though many are probably not willing to admit this. It is known as the "spirit molecule". Anyone who does DMT is instantly transported into astral where they meet with other beings. Yes, re read what I just typed. EVERYONE who does DMT goes to another plane and speaks with beings who change their perception on life. This means that the drug has no subjective effects. Everyone experiences the same thing. Think of it as a key to another realm. If you want to find out more about DMT, look it up. Youtube has some cool videos about it as well.

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I enjoyed listening to Joe Rogan speak about DMT, funny and enlightening. I've got access to DMT, plan on trying it sometime in the future. Have young children at the moment so won't really have the opportunity yet, although the experience only lasts a few mintues, I still would feel hesitant until Im in the right place to do it. I'm totally cool with DMT use, Ive only seen enlightening, balanced perspectives from it's use. know a few who use it rarely, that is, in it's current form. I think understanding what it is, and how it works in the brain will undo myths about this so called drug, as it is not like anything else.

I have loosened up about marijuana too, any form of addiction is what I am opposed to, anything in moderation is cool, as long as you don't harm yourself or anyone else.

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posted December 11, 2010 06:25 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for BanxManx     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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I enjoyed listening to Joe Rogan speak about DMT, funny and enlightening. I've got access to DMT, plan on trying it sometime in the future. Have young children at the moment so won't really have the opportunity yet, although the experience only lasts a few mintues, I still would feel hesitant until Im in the right place to do it. I'm totally cool with DMT use, Ive only seen enlightening, balanced perspectives from it's use. know a few who use it rarely, that is, in it's current form. I think understanding what it is, and how it works in the brain will undo myths about this so called drug, as it is not like anything else.

I have loosened up about marijuana too, any form of addiction is what I am opposed to, anything in moderation is cool, as long as you don't harm yourself or anyone else.


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Check this out. I was reading the Law of One. I am sure many of you know about the Law of One. If you don't, you probably should. Regardless if you believe that it was a legitimate channel or not it is very interesting nonetheless. Here is a passage that I came across today which mirrors what I wrote earlier.


"The healing ability, like all other, what this instrument would call, paranormal abilities, is affected by the opening of a pathway or shuttle into intelligent infinity. There are many upon your plane who have a random hole or gateway in their spirit energy field, sometimes created by the ingestion of chemicals such as, what this instrument would call LSD, who are able, randomly and without control, to tap into energy sources. They may or may not be entities who wish to serve. The purpose of carefully and consciously opening this channel is to serve in a more dependable way, in a more commonplace or usual way, as seen by the distortion complex of the healer. To others there may appear to be miracles. To the one who has carefully opened the door to intelligent infinity this is ordinary; this is commonplace; this is as it should be. The life experience becomes somewhat transformed. The great work goes on."

Source: http://deoxy.org/wiki/The_Law_Of_One

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posted December 13, 2010 11:16 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
What is DMT?

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posted December 13, 2010 03:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for BanxManx     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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What is DMT?


Look it up. It is very interesting. I am surprised that people here have not heard of DMT. The pineal gland also produces natural DMT and is thought to be released when people are born, have a strange experience or die.

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Randall,

Joe Rogan talks about DMT (Dimethyltryptamine). (Do you watch the ufc? you might already know Joe)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q6RBOIgtzEE <--- excellent summary!!! Funny and enlightening


It is a natural chemical we release from our pineal gland, also found everywhere in nature, it is a chemical that bridges between dimensions. Such as being useful when we sleep, and in those who choose to die ect... Our brains are a massive store house of drugs LOL... and are used when we need to "travel", everything is a chemical reaction- so we go beyond science, there is something more than just material about this chemical. Although I can't really speak until I have truly had the experience myself. But as far as others go, wow!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FxTc69tuOBA

I think it would aid immortality.

DMT: the spirit molecule
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kOg5SWXddzU


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posted December 14, 2010 12:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Is it legal?

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Is it legal?


Good question Randall. In the video they said it was part of many "religious" practices so it was hard for the state to interfere with it legally. So I am assuming that it is legal. Just really hard to obtain.

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Randall,

Joe Rogan talks about DMT (Dimethyltryptamine). (Do you watch the ufc? you might already know Joe)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q6RBOIgtzEE <--- [b]excellent summary!!! Funny and enlightening


It is a natural chemical we release from our pineal gland, also found everywhere in nature, it is a chemical that bridges between dimensions. Such as being useful when we sleep, and in those who choose to die ect... Our brains are a massive store house of drugs LOL... and are used when we need to "travel", everything is a chemical reaction- so we go beyond science, there is something more than just material about this chemical. Although I can't really speak until I have truly had the experience myself. But as far as others go, wow!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FxTc69tuOBA

I think it would aid immortality.

DMT: the spirit molecule
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kOg5SWXddzU


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SunChild, if you didn't already know.... 7 days ago, they released the actual movie DMT: The spirit molecule on youtube.

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posted December 14, 2010 03:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SunChild     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yes I saw it--- Can't wait to watch it!

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