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Powerstar97
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posted September 06, 2020 04:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Powerstar97     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I’ve never astral projected or traveled before but I was watching YouTube and heard that it was just us projecting ourselves through thought and imagination but I’ve been more familiar with it being an out of body type scene where you can travel wherever you want but I have never experienced it https://ibb.co/FH6Xd7b

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posted September 07, 2020 09:11 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ayelet     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi Powerstar97, welcome!
It comes when it's time... age has nothing to do with it. Children can experience it without knowing it is astral projection. Sometimes one needs to work on other areas of one's life, so astral projection can become a hindrance to development rather than assistance. Acknowledging the reality of it and reading about it can help. But it is important not to look for such "adventures" as a way to escape "reality as we know it". You can learn about it and trust that the experience will come in due time.

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posted September 22, 2020 04:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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We have different levels of the human energy system. Each level is like an octave higher than the last. The slowest vibratory level is our physical body, then there is the etheric body, then the emotional body, then the mental body, and then the spiritual body.

When a person experiences a classic out of body experience, they are shifting their conscious focus and phasing into the vibratory level of the etheric body. It feels more "real" and visceral because it's more resonant with the physical energies, but it often has a lot of the similar human baggage of the physical such as fear. The more you phase to a faster vibratory level, the more free, aware, expanded you and your consciousness becomes, but it feels less and less "viseraclly real" and it's harder to perceive these levels. It's like waking up from a really out there dream and the dream memory tends to fade fast--because it's so far away from the physical vibratory level.

I've had a couple experiences with phasing into that etheric body aka a classic OBE, but I don't really recommend it. Interestingly, I had these experiences when I was in an unusually slow vibratory period/cycle of my life and within myself. At the time, T. Saturn was in my 1st, T. Pluto was square my Saturn-ruler of my Sun and Mercury and co-ruler of my Venus and Desc. I was not my usual self during this cycle--a lot of shadow stuff came up to the surface to be worked on. Again, I was slower vibratory than usual, and what I mean by that, I was more enmeshed in ego and the material, was more selfish and fear based, more separative, etc.

So why a lot of folks can't seem to have classic OBE's: What sometimes happens, as it happened with self, is that when a person enters into an altered state of consciousness (like deeper meditation), they naturally start to phase into the emotional or mental levels of self. Again, it doesn't feel as "real", because it's less connected or rather resonant with the physical energies.

Such people actually have a hard time phasing into their etheric body/level--doing so is like going backwards for them.

Some people need those training wheels--like Robert A. Monroe initially did. Bob was raised in an atheistic, intellectual, and materialist household. His family and him didn't believe in anything outside of the physical. So when he first started having nonphysical experiences, his guidance/Expanded self had to slap training wheels on him and the experiences. It had to feel and seem very real in a physical like way for him to believe in it.

Many years after his initial OBE's, Bob realized the truth of the matter and that it was all about phasing one's vibrational rates, via consciousness, into various different levels, and that one wasn't "going" anywhere in a spatial sense, because in the nonphysical, in consciousness, there is no outer and no inner.

Individuals that come in knowing/sensing that the nonphysical is real, etc, often are already operating at a faster vibratory rate, and again, trying to have a classic OBE like Bob and others, is hard for them to do because their natural inclination is to phase into their faster vibratory levels like the emotional or mental (which is GOOD because there are less limitations and human baggage in these levels).

Currently, it's rare for humans to consciously phase into the spiritual level. The kind of people who can and do this, can demonstrate so called miracles and the like. These are folks like Yeshua (Jesus) who could disappear in a crowd, manifest food, etc.

I'm not talking about the fakes like Sai Baba who did simple and obvious slight of hand tricks with "manifesting" watches and the like--that's just trickery. Anyways, the people who can do the former for real are rare. Some of us service souls do some of this stuff unconsciously during our sleep state though. But that is another topic.

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posted November 05, 2020 02:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Chanterelle     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Oh, okay... that explains why DMT didn’t work for me.

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Could definitely be part of it. But it's not uncommon that the first time for a certain hallucinogens it doesn't do much in the way of altering perception.

The first time I tried LSD when I was like 19, it didn't do anything. Only tried it once more, but it was a low level dose and mixed with something else, but this time I did notice some stuff.

It could also have been, maybe you weren't ready for the experience at the time (DMT and Aya can be very intense), and your Higher self was blocking it some for you? I bet if you did it again, likely it would be more intense and perception altering.

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Well, more like worked backwards— it was pretty darn interesting, that’s for sure. Not usually the type to get up and run barefoot across a field. It wasn’t much, that’s true, but it’s just so different from what other people have described... mainly people who seemed to treat those things much more recreationally than I did by then. 🤷🏼‍♀️ I’m adopting the shrugging chick — I like her better than 🤦‍♀️.

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Never did DMT myself, but did do an Aya analogue one time, a few years back.

Did it by myself at home (none of that fancy Shaman/group thang).

It was 45 minutes of pure bliss, and my heart expanding so much, so much Love, so much joy, so much bliss, it was like I died and went to Heaven while seeing the underlying data/information code of creation in symbolic manner.

Partner reported from the other room that I just kept saying things like, Oh wow oh wow and sighing contentedly.

Didn't do it recreationaly, felt called to do it. Had a dream about it a few days before giving me the go ahead after I was wondering whether or not it was a good choice (interesting dream about initially seeming ferocious polar bear with mostly white fur but some dark spots, that turned out to be a cuddle bunny that after I stopped running and being afraid, turned around and faced with no fear, and then started petting, including petting it's belly and both of us just having a really good time with the connection. Not sure that I would try to pet a wild polar bear in real life though...)

I had read a lot of horror stories about Aya and DMT previously.

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posted November 22, 2020 12:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MoonMystic     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I had some experiences with it shortly (as a child) after my first NDE. Otherwise my recall of those may have been after 29. I'm thinking early 30s was when it really reved up. It was shocking to me the places I explored. Even one occasion I recall my hubby trying to wake me ~ not easily, I came back. I supposeit's too exciting to explore when devoid of these suits.

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posted December 27, 2020 02:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Great info.

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