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26taurus
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posted July 20, 2004 02:48 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
THIS IS SICK! This whole thread makes me feel ill.

Rainbow, please don't let this get to you. It's not worth it.

"I find the great thing in this world is not so much where we stand, as in what direction we are moving: To reach the port of heaven, we must sail sometimes with the wind and sometimes against it, -- but we must sail, and not drift, nor lie at anchor."

-- Oliver Wendell Holmes,

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"My country is the world and my religion is to do good." -Thomas Paine

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Rainbow~
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posted July 20, 2004 02:55 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

I have been portrayed as the "evil witch" here (please take note of the post above listing every thing I was called).....and yet....

....I looked back at the threads, and not ONCE DID I CALL ANYONE HERE....

venemous
snide
petty
nasty
bitter
angry
rude
slanderous
ugly
hostile
hypocrite
broken record
Pi$$y

...in fact...I didn't call anyone here..any names at all!

Go figure...

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26taurus
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posted July 20, 2004 03:03 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I noticed that also Rainbow. You have not ever called anyone here a name. I thought to myself "I don't remember Rainbow ever calling anyone names....what a childish thing to do." But it's okay for them to do it to you. Remember - you are the "bad guy". They will try and tell you this 'til you believe it too. Don't let it get to you. It's evil and mean-spirited - something YOU are NOT!

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Rainbow~
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posted July 20, 2004 03:07 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
26....I'm okay...

Thanks for your concern...

What's obvious to me...is that my "very unwanted" opinions hit some nerves!!!

Had to...for reactions like that!

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26taurus
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posted July 20, 2004 03:11 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
That's exactly right.

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Rainbow~
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posted July 20, 2004 03:37 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

(and I didn't even call 'em "evil poopy heads" either )

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pidaua
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posted July 20, 2004 10:51 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for pidaua     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Saying someone is "acting" ugly is quite different from calling them ugly. I would never attack your physical appearance as that is just cruel.

Now, there have been times when "cruel", "rude", "evil"..etc...have all been used to describe posters here, on this forum, concerning the manner in which they get their point across.

Attacking ones statement in a "point counter point" manner is not attacking ones personal character.

Some still miss the point. It is as though one or two people can keep attacking yet a response to that attack is what is highlighted. Hmmm, that is hypocritical to say the least.

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lioneye68
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posted July 20, 2004 11:37 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Please take note of everything I was called

venemous
snide
petty
nasty
bitter
angry
rude
slanderous
ugly
hostile
hypocrite
broken record
Pi$$y

[insert violin playing smiley that you're so fond of]
.............................................
HELLO??!! DOES THAT NOT TELL YOU SOMETHING ABOUT THE WAY YOU COME ACROSS??
.............................................
Oh, whatever. It doesn't matter. I guess some people just figure they're entitled to 'talk down' to anybody who holds a differing opinion from their own.

(btw, I only capitalized and bolded that statement to mimic your own "in your face" style of posting)

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pidaua
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posted July 20, 2004 12:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for pidaua     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You know Lioneye..you are 100% right. No where in the thread that Proxie posted did it insinuate that the "evil poopy heads" were from the right. But, Rainbow took it upon herself to ascribe that epithet to those that do not mimic her beliefs.

The HUGE graphics and "in your face" style employed by certain people is just as blatant and calling someone out for being rude or using ugly tactics.

In the same respect, 25taurus, while I admire your beliefs, I do not think there is ONE conservative here hell bent on making liberals into demons or trying to pound you into the ground and make you believe you are such.

When I read the comic posted by Proxie I saw ALL people from ALL sides falling into that way of thinking from time to time. I did not, as some here just did, think it was only in regards to the left.

Geez...talk about attitude.

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Rainbow~
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posted July 20, 2004 12:40 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You know...you guys are such "knee jerk" reactors....that you can't even appreciate a little humor...

That's what the "poophead" thingy was about...I KNOW that Proxie said it was not intended for either left or right...I CAN READ..

That's why I thought it would be "safe" to put in there....injecting a little bit of humor...Will you lighten up for pete's sake?

quote:
Oh, whatever. It doesn't matter. I guess some people just figure they're entitled to 'talk down' to anybody who holds a differing opinion from their own.

Yeah! I noticed that, lioneye...

and what's more ...(not that I need to) but I explained to you ONCE already, that I had bad eyesight and that's why I was using the bold letters...because I was having a hard time seeing...*sigh*...(not that I really NEEDED to explain)

But I have since learned how to change the text size (only for me), and so haven't been doing the "bold" thing lately...but did you stop to notice?.....

AND I didn't realize the little violin playing guy was such a source of irritation to you....actually, I thought it was kind of cute...but since it has a tendency to make you upset...I will refrain from inserting my little smiley people anymore...

I have YET to see a smiley that could enrage me, tho! *sigh*

(and someone had the kohenies to call ME petty!)

I'm game to call a truce....if you are...

If not...that's okay too...

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lioneye68
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posted July 20, 2004 01:09 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Sorry, oh innocent one ~ nice try though.

Your "in your face" formatting is suspiciously used most often when you're responding to something or someone you don't agree with, or shoving your opinions down some else's throat. (oh yeah, of course, and also when you're getting your high-fives and having a mutual ego-stroking session.)

And the violin playing smiley. Is he serenading out of love? NOT. It means "cry me a river" or something to that effect, intended to MOCK the post or poster your responding to.

Cut the "oh, innocent persecuted little me" routine.

Be as mocking and *edit* overzealous as you like, if that's what floats your boat. Just don't act all confused and misunderstood when someone gets annoyed about it.

that's all.

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Rainbow~
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posted July 20, 2004 03:03 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

Geeze...and I was hoping we might be friends?

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lioneye68
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posted July 20, 2004 03:10 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
OK by me.

I'm now that I've gotten that off my chest.

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Rainbow~
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posted July 20, 2004 03:22 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Why do I have to keep explaining myself???

quote:
Your "in your face" formatting is suspiciously used most often when you're responding to something or someone you don't agree with, or shoving your opinions down some else's throat. (oh yeah, of course, and also when you're getting your high-fives and having a mutual ego-stroking session.)

Oh yes...I'll do that, and I've done that, but dammit if YOU single me out as the only one in here who does, then your line of vision is very narrow indeed!

I'm pretty sick and tired of all the Rainbow Bashing on this thread....I have as much right to be here as you, and I have as much right to express my opinions as you, and just because you don't like them should not give you the right to belittle me...and if anyone follows these threads, they'll see that's exactly what's going on!!!

I post an article that I find relevant or express an opinion....AND ALL HELL BREAKS LOOSE!

Randall has not made this a "police state forum" yet, where if I dont' say and think exactly what you do, I get arrested (thank god, Randall!)...but if that's the mindset here (and I don't mean ALL of you), then yes, George W Bush is your man.

But lioneye, I almost forgot....you can't vote for him...what a loss on his part...*sigh*

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Rainbow~
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posted July 20, 2004 03:28 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Our posts crossed....

But I'm not sure that I'm cool...now!

Gimme a minute....

I need another....

...temp is coming down, but I'M STILL NOT COOL...hold on....


I'm "fairly" cool....

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lioneye68
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posted July 20, 2004 03:40 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Nobody belittled you. You were called on your tendancy to belittle others, and also, the arbitrary hostility that comes across in your posts.

At least that's my perception.

But, you know what? It doesn't matter anymore.

Let's just all try to post in a civilized manner, with consideration for the views of others, even if we don't agree with them.

Hostility tends to snow-ball really quickly in a forum like this.


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Rainbow~
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posted July 20, 2004 05:05 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Let's just all try to post in a civilized manner, with consideration for the views of others, even if we don't agree with them.

Exactly, lioneye...

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Nobody belittled you. You were called on your tendancy to belittle others, and also, the arbitrary hostility that comes across in your posts

If you can point out to me, where I "belittled someone" (other than Bush and his cronies), I'll be happy to apologize...

I think we should all follow the rules (I'm NOT being facetious)...but maybe I don't understand them....

I notice that jwhop likes to post articles he finds on the net...I do too....

His articles always give a point of view FROM THE RIGHT...and mine give a point of vew FROM THE LEFT....this seems "fair and balanced" to me..

..yet...yet when he posts his articles and opinions "all is right with the world," and as I said before...when I post mine...all hell breaks loose.....WHY IS THAT? (the caps are for emphasis, so you'll know how important the question is to me)...

I have not called anybody any names in here...

Admittedly, I do poke fun at Bush, and that
is because I feel his shortcomings need to be exposed so that we can get him out of office. I do not want him there any longer...I do not feel safe with him there any longer...so yeah! I feel it's my duty to make sure he does not get elected, and if I can shout it to the world...I will (while I still can)..

My heart does ache for all the young men and women who were sacrificed in this war, and the last time I looked, I was still allowed to express that opinion (or so I thought).

I'm not sure what it's going to take for me to be accepted in here..but if it means cowering to bullies who don't like what I say, then I guess I WON'T be accepted....

PLEASE ALLOW ME....TO BE ME....


It seem to me that I post an article and I'm being hateful....

I post an opinion and I'm hostile....

Well come to think of it, is there a law against being hostile. Have not you, Pid and Isis been hostile toward me?

Can you tell me why you feel I'm not allowed to have an opinion here????

Am I only going to be allowed to post, if I don't do these things anymore?

Must I buckle under, and say only "nice" things about the Bush Administration and the war??

Do you guys really think I could do that in good conscience?

I couldn't live with myself if I were to turn into a "wussy YES man."

Is that what it's going to take to be accepted in here ?


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pidaua
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posted July 20, 2004 05:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for pidaua     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
This can go back and forth again and again. Rainbow it was already pointed out to you and you acknowledged it, then you back peddled, then you turned indigent, then you became self-righteous, then condescending, then forceful...

You have flip-flopped so many times and gotten away from the issue.

The point is - there are those of us that find you to be exactly what we said- get over it. You have your cheerleaders, there are some that think you hung the moon and that is cool. No one said you can't post what you want, but you NEED to be prepared to be called on the carpet when you so something along the lines of which was already pointed out to you a million times (that is an exaggeration..I know, so please refrain from pointing it out).


The crux of the matter is that you will NEVER see yourself as being in the wrong. So leave it at that. All the examples, which have been posted up and down this damn thread along those that are included in another thread...will be ignored by you.

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Rainbow~
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posted July 20, 2004 05:29 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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The crux of the matter is that you will NEVER see yourself as being in the wrong. So leave it at that.

Am I SUPPOSED to see myself in the wrong?

Is this like those torture chambers where people are pulled apart "until they see themselve in the wrong?"

Okay...I'm not all that brave....

Perhaps under torture I WILL say...

"I was wrong! George Bush is a wonderful man! For him to start the war in Iraq was okay (it was the bad old CIA who gave him the WRONG information)....I WAS WRONG! I WAS WRONG! I WAS WRONG! Forgive me for being so opinionated!..they wanted me to admit I was wrong....so now I have done it....I WAS WRONG! I WAS WRONG! I WAS WRONG!"

happy now?

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Rainbow~
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posted July 20, 2004 05:32 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
buckeling under to pressure is not real fun....but dang it...it can be done...you guys win....

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Rainbow~
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posted July 20, 2004 05:37 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
One more thing....

Pid....go and find where I belittled someone here on this forum.... and put it in quotes......

I'd like to see it.

Isn't that how we get at "facts?"

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pidaua
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posted July 20, 2004 05:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for pidaua     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
LOL...yeah, you have proved my point. Now you are the Martyr. LMAO...now you are equating yourself to those Iraqi prisoners that were tortured at the hands of Saddam. get a GRIP!!!

You assume so many roles that one has to wonder if you truly know who you are.

You circuitous posts reminds me of a high school or college..all that running..all that energy- but going in a circle gets a person nowhere fast.


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pidaua
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posted July 20, 2004 05:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for pidaua     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Difinition of "belittle"
UGH...I just couldn't keep it posted.

Rainbow, as much as I would like to prove you wrong and post what you asked, I can't do it. Not because I didn't have all the posts at hand. I did, but I just deleted it..


I may not understand you and I may not like your style, but I don't want to humiliate you or embarrass you like that.

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jwhop
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posted July 20, 2004 06:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Good, sisters and brothers, this seems like a good place to take a breather. All in favor say AYE!

AYE

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Rainbow~
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posted July 20, 2004 08:36 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Difinition of "belittle"
UGH...I just couldn't keep it posted.
Rainbow, as much as I would like to prove you wrong and post what you asked, I can't do it. Not because I didn't have all the posts at hand. I did, but I just deleted it..


I may not understand you and I may not like your style, but I don't want to humiliate you or embarrass you like that.



My dear Pid....

You don't want to humiliate or embarrass me?

That's really a good one...ho ho ho...just who are you trying to convince here, anyway?

Your past history betrays you...

Everybody's already seen how you can work on a person who crosses your path, like those little flesh eating fish..(maybe you can call "this" belittling you now...I call it self defense)

But checking back on past threads, it was kind of a relief to know that I'm not the only one who's been a victim of your "cutting" words....

I noticed that you used the same ones on Harpyr when she said something you didn't like...words like venem..bitter, hatred...

I guess who ever gets in your way of thinking...gets it!

Anyway...when did you stop wanting to humilate and embarrass me?

When did this miraclous CHANGE take place in your dear sweet loving little heart?

Could it be when you coudln't find the "evidence" you were looking for???

DO IT!!!! Show me where I belittled anybody here on the forum???? (outside of Bush and his men)

I'm a big girl...I can take it!



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