posted October 19, 2004 12:24 AM              

I believe everyone must be heard. When Jesus said follow me, the 12 disciples were drawn like bees to him. I didn't experience that, when you said you are the old Master. No one is older all are equal age. Anyway since you asked, that a question be asked heres the question. Lets see how you answer it. This is based on the claim you made that you know recent prophets.

Who is the Ek Mayee that one of the organized religion refers to? Let me know if you need some hint. But its obvious. If I give you timeline of this prophet it should be really easy. But I think if you ask in the other world they all would know.

PEACE.

posted October 19, 2004 01:19 AM              

I have no question, just a thankyou.

Even without speaking with you, I now know the questions I thought I wanted answering I actually dont.

I have a bigger sense of basic trust and know things will happen as they should.

Thankyou for clearing my mind

Love

posted October 19, 2004 05:34 AM              

In your patient silence, there are many questions. You say how can I ask if I don't know the question. I have rarely come across such sincerety.

A poem:

A deep silence revived the listening

And the speaking of those two
Who meet on the river bank

Like the ground turning green in the spring wind, like birdsong beginning inside the egg
Like this universe coming into existence

The love awakes, and whirls
In a dancing joy
Then kneels down in praise

And the father says, "You have a channel into the oceanAnd yet you ask for water from a little pool"

Beg for the love expansion
As the Holy Quran says, "And He is with you"

Serenity,

posted October 19, 2004 05:48 AM              

The One Grandma says:

To the doubter, this is a pain
To the believer, it is gospel
To the lover and the visionary, it is life as it is being lived

And the Old Crone says:

Always check your inner state
With the lord of your heart

Copper does not know it is copper
Until it is changed to gold

With all my admiration,

posted October 19, 2004 06:36 AM              

1111 is one plus one plus one plus one. But one is not a number. There is only one Truth (haq) that manifests itself over and over again. One has no reference to anything else, for it is one. The Truth is infinite and undifferentiated. You cannot divide it into numbers.

The numbers are only relationships between that one. The manifestation, however, are only the impressions of that haq. On this earth (domains of names), there is duality to cover the eyes. There is night there is day. There is wrath there is love.

But in the realm of transcendence you only see haq. And to a sufi the perfected way of knowing God is to see Him without His names and attributes. Then when you look at the person next to you, you see God.

One great mystic said of this universe, "I learned about God in the unity of opposites, the light and darkness, presence and absence, manifestation and non-manifestation."

Rumi says:

My soul, your soul, your soul, my soul
Have you ever seen two souls in one body?

You deal with numbers everyday. The duality in man on earth is there because he does not see his feminine side. He becomes aggressive in this lack of unity.

Serenity,

posted October 19, 2004 07:44 AM              

Esalatewujud means authenticity of being. The Holy Quran says, "Everything in the universe always renews itself. Nothing is the same as a moment ago."

The essence of everything is the essential truth of that thing. With blindness, the essence of things are boxed into definitions. It is only the illusive mind that limits and defines the infinite in order to understand it.

The mystic knows these definitions are only partial reflections of that truth.

Jesus went to a village and asked a woman for a cup of water. She said, "The water of this village is only for the people here."

Jesus said, "If you knew who I was, you would ask me for water."

She only saw a man defined by some superficial characteristics, limited to her illusion. But Jesus replied to her with his infinite soul. Being a passerby, asking for water, is only a partial reflection of that essential truth.

There were others who saw Jesus as God. They again had limited vision of the Infinite. For a man of God, Jesus is the extension of the good deeds of Mary. The limited eye ignores Mary and only sees Jesus.

The number 12 goes further than one may imagine.

With serenity,

posted October 19, 2004 07:55 AM              

The spiritual experience is a modest woman who looks lovingly at only one man

It is a great river where ducks
live happily, and crows drown.

The visible bowl of form contains food
that is both nourishing and a source of heartburn.

There is an unseen presence we honor
that gives the gifts.

26, what do you understand from this?

Serenity,

posted October 19, 2004 08:22 AM              

Your spiritual experience may mean looking lovingly at only one man. In mine I look lovingly at all men. I dont see the Higher Power outside of men. I dont look *at* anything. I look *in* everything. I don't set boundaries on Love.

If there is something I am not 'understanding' in what you are saying, you could try and be less cryptic. I'm not one for word games or riddles. But you know that.

quote:

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There is an unseen presence we honor
that gives the gifts.

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I agree.

Question: Why are you looking for followers?

posted October 19, 2004 08:42 AM              

Again a thankyou, for your directness.

Your poem went straight to the heart. Your aim is good.

There is only one line that sits temporarily out of my full vision, but no worries I know clarity will come.

posted October 19, 2004 08:48 AM              

I'd like to echo noreenz in asking, how is Linda? You say you speak to her constantly and would love to know since that it is because of her that we are together here.

Sheaa

posted October 19, 2004 10:06 AM              

Thank you for taking the time to share what you know with us. Would you please answer this question?

When will there be two sets of footprints in the sand?

posted October 19, 2004 10:08 AM            

Thank you for the gift of 12

posted October 19, 2004 10:26 AM              

I would just like a clearer understanding of where you are coming from. I am sincerely interested in 'your answers'. I know you have knowledge to share. We all do. I learn things from everyone I meet. I just get turned off by the idea that someone thinks they need to lead others and that they have 'all the answers'.

Still I am greatful for your presence here and thankful for the knowledge you have come to share with us.

posted October 19, 2004 11:01 AM              

Pardon me for interrupting. I wish to express your sentiments in following response:

Everyones different.There are some who look outside and some who look deep within. Examples of this opposite extremes are the scientists and yogi. We have to choose which way we like. They all lead to same truth. Because there is only one truth.

The society today is not concerned with anybody. They are more and more deluded and caught in the web of illusion.

There has to be an initiation. Without putting yeast, the milk won't become curd.
There has to be an external agent.

Ofcourse any Guru will only take you closer to your goal. It is then that you have to choose. No one else can interfere except the ALL if you ask him to. It is only the choice of your pure SELF.

posted October 19, 2004 11:12 AM              

magidivision,

You are awfully hard to swallow. I have never heard a Guru proclaim to be as such. A master or a guru doesn't come into a room and announce his/her presence. Nor do they tell everyone in that room that they are a master or a guru.

I have to admit my skepticism about you and any knowledge you might have.

A true Guru doesn't boast about himself or his accomplishments.

posted October 19, 2004 11:42 AM              

I know there is only one truth. I am wondering why magidivision thinks someone can find it through him. I think the truth is only found within. Not by following a Guru. That is giving your power over to another person. There are things to be learned from everyone, self proclaimed Master or not. You are only your own Master. There is one truth, Love. It cant be found in another. It is found first within. We are all caught in 'the web of illusion', even magidivision. Of course there is initiation. But you come to a point where you realize that looking for answers outside of your self is a futile search.

Peace to you.

posted October 19, 2004 12:10 PM              

Surely I know who you are. It is good to have you back with us once again. I think you've been away long enough. I see the ego battles still rage on.

However, Guru please don't mislead intentionally. Do please remember that every seed sown in deceit will grow into a plant that bears nothing but deceit as it's fruit, and a plant is judged by the fruit that it bears.

" And many false prophets shall rise, and shall deceive many."

So it is written in the scriptures and so we have been warned. You know that nobody cures truly if not by the will of our creator. Even my Master Jeshua takes no cedit for cures. How can you?

It is true then that the land of bewilderment is where you reside. It is obvious that there is no delusion on that score.

Your knowledge means nothing because it is not of the heart. True knowledge is humble and not self proclaiming.

I wish you good spaces in the far away spaces you roam. My fathers house has many mansions, even room enough for you. How sad for someone of your calibre to resort to this. I know you are better than this.

Blessings and light your way.

Gia