posted November 19, 2004 10:04 PM              

I have in no way censored you.

I moved one of your posts to an appropriate forum... ONE

No deleting. No censorship.

Who, pray tell, is censoring you?

The thing is, daf... you don't know jack about me. Squat. You may think you know me. Really, you can think whatever you like about me. I'll still sleep well at night.

The only thing you know of me is what has come out with this little drama fest. You took huge issue with my finding the whole GURU bologna hoaky and a hoax. That was your first experience with me... and if memory serves, you ATTACKED me (and others).

You have no idea what I'm about.

PEER PREASURE? WTF?! How old are we, here? 12? I will pat people on the back as I see fit... don't like it? Don't read my posts. Don't like me? Don't read my posts.

posted November 19, 2004 10:17 PM              

You will find that under IP spoofing I disavow there being a Master here. You will find a poem called To Catch a Spider in Which I reveal the reasons for my saying the things that I did when adressing that person, who I felt was hiding something.

Petty soap opera digs and double scoops of disparaging "do-do" bore me.

This is about free expression, try not to continue changing the subject to my character or my fondness for editing my posts. It's free expression in the face of the "pack mentality" that I'm defending, not my character or my desire to edit my posts.

Trying to redirect the focus to your opponents' character and past mistakes are political strategies used by lawyers, politicians, and crooks. (Excuse me, I repeat myself.)

daf

posted November 19, 2004 10:26 PM              

You accuse me of being mean, rude, creating peer pressure... that's redirecting the focus to your opponents' character, isn't it?

posted November 19, 2004 10:36 PM              

If you are rude enough, most won't respond, at least not those who do not feel strongly enough about their opinions and so it is a tactic that works for you. You are sarcastic, because Libran wit is legendary for its ability to leave others without an appropriate response, and so you use that tactic to good effect to censor others.

If enough of you gang up on an individual, in most instances they will be silenced by the majority opinion rather than be raked across the coals by you, and so you use that tactic to good effect to censor others.

Finally, if all else fails, (as in the your admission above about your ignorance of my opinion on the Master, which you summarily sweep under the rug with a quick change of subject) you use diversionary tactics, to draw attention away from your mistakes, or to make the subject of focus the character of the person whose opinion you oppose. You use this tactic to good effect and so use it to censor others.

You will not censor me with any of these tactics and so you will need to be more animalistic and use brute force to do so, OR you will realize that your are facing yourself and your own digusting tactics for silencing people whose opinions don't agree with your own.

I didn't change the subject, the subject is you, and those like you who abuse their authority and their solidarity to silence others that disagree with them. Stop counting on the unwillingness of others to read all of these words. Speak straight and stop trying to achieve you aim with a single glib and clever line of meaningless chatter.

(How many bets that Randall will lock this thread down because it is "contentious"? Contention, difference of opinion, disagreement it only depends upon how you word it...doesn't it? Censorship takes many forms.)

If you don't like this, stop dishing it out.

posted November 19, 2004 10:42 PM              

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B) If you would like me to dredge up the examples of verbal abuse by you and your mods that I'm speaking of, I would be happy to.

I will do so on Free-For-All where everyone can see them, and then I will point to this post as the cause for my doing so.

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Go right ahead pal. Why not post the lovely poem you posted about us all a few weeks back as well. Hmmmm? Did you forget about that little number? I'm happy I got to read that nastiness and see your true colors.

Why did you bring this post back up? Had to start an argument didnt you? You want to do everything you can to make yourself feel better and TRY to make us look like the aggressors - or "attack dogs".

Give it up, you big baby. Like I said in the post in FFA. Go find a theater group to join. I can believe you cant SEE YOURSELF HERE YET! LOL! God damn!! All these years of searching and youre still so far away from yourself!

"Mirror, mirror"......."

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If you don't like this, stop dishing it out.

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If YOU dont like this, stop bumping up the friggin posts!!!!!!!!

And I'm not "telling" you to leave, but WHY do you still come here when all you do is start sh!t up?

It never ceases to amaze me, how every Libra man I meet is a self absorbed, whining brat.
(Try not to hold that one against me - I figured since you mentioned a little something about "fixed signs" in another thread, that you can PROBABLY take it. But who knows? You might use it against me. lol )

posted November 19, 2004 10:52 PM              

I edited my words and apologized for them.

What have you done to rectify your indiscretions?

No doubt, when the mood has passed and the point been properly made I will apologize for these harsh words.

This is not that time, and you need to put your three fingers and your mirror down. You haven't got a leg to stand on.

And so, if you will please avoid embarrassing us both by taking your Nanny-Nanny-Boo-Boo You-Are-So-A-Hypocrite, soap opera drivel to a discussion in which it will be more effective, it would be appreciated. My hypocrisy is well documented, how does that make your indiscretions "the right thing to do?"

If I p*** on my foot, does that make it ok for you people, as moderators, to sh** down your trouser legs? I'm just a poster here...you are moderators. Who will moderate YOUR behavior if not you?

Your words are a waste of perfectly good keystrokes that your are more than capable of putting to better use.

Consider doing so and I'll do the same. Not a moment sooner.

posted November 19, 2004 11:07 PM              

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Do you remember how I was extrememly forgiving to you and your apology?
NO. You seem to have conviniently forgotten. You still have beef with me and I think it's hilarious. I've been very nice to you and you still **** on me. So what's a girl to do? Have a little fun here and there. I'm sorry it doesnt live up to YOUR approval.

I've been nice to you and gotten some @sshole replies from you here and there. You expect people to be nice to you when youre an @ss to them?

Dont bother apologizing this time. It's humorous now. I dont think you are finding what you are looking for on this website. It doesnt seem that way to me.

What is it that you want from us here????

And sweetheart you do a fine job of embarassing yourself all of the time. Your hypocrisy is well documented as well.

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thought Nazis and opinion police?

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Get over yourself!

posted November 19, 2004 11:14 PM              

I could give a pull-start f*** on a radial tire about what you think of me and how you treat me.

Try to stop changing the subject from your behavior and avoiding the topic altogether. I have been tried and found guilty. My sentence has been established in the vehemet protests and the thinly veiled venom tossed about here and elsewhere on Lindaland.

You folks, on the other hand show no remorse for your mistreatment of others here(not including me), and so are long overdue to answer for your actions, modify your behavior...or continue to deny that what you are doing is wrong.

It is wrong, and so here you are, hearing about it whether you like it or not. You could always use brute force to shut me up and thereby make a final statement about what you TRULY feel about free speech.

daf

P.S. You brought the other(thought Nazi) poem up, not me. But as a U-shaped tube, I have a certain obligation to spit back up what you send this way. Keep it coming or don't, you know what will come back to you. That which you continue to sow. Sort of an "instant harvest." Yes, hypocrisy. Repeating the word won't give it any more impact.

posted November 19, 2004 11:18 PM              

No, LOL... but it would be pretty darned funny

"I didn't change the subject, the subject is you..."

Wait... I thought the subject was censorship??

I am quite capable of being rude... and pretty crass too... but, that's not all that I am, and just goes to show that you don't know what you're talking about when you're talking about me.

I stand by my statement... You don't know jack

I have made many many posts around these boards. The only things you seem to know about me are the things I have strong opinions against. I am in now way, shape, or form interested in defending myself against you... your "opinions" of me are of no consequence to me, daf. I don't care what you think about me. Say what you like... saying it doesn't make it true... just like the whole Master thing.

Go ahead and keep dishing, pal. I'm a tough lady. I can take whatever you've got... and then some.

No one is censoring anyone here daf... the only thing that is happening is you making a complete fool of yourself.

The only person switching the subject to the personality of their opponent is YOU.

I don't feel the need to rectify any indiscretions. I called magidivision a fraud... he was. Shizuka ... same. MZ.. .yep yep yep.

I have not attacked your character, daf. I have discredited your words.

Sorry that you don't like it.

How exactly is your little rant here any different than being an opinion Nazi? hmmm? Because we don't agree with you, we should pipe down. Pshaw! LMAO... It don't work that way, hon.

In case you haven't noticed, you're in GU... you know ... the forum where debates take place.

Again... don't like my sarcasm? Don't read my posts. Think I'm too rude? Don't read my posts.

No one else is crying and whining about having posts moved. I've seen it happen several times. You're the only one having a little fit

Anyhow... I'm done with this, and done with you.

posted November 19, 2004 11:25 PM              

Go expect things from your children or yourself. Not me.

I am VERY respectful to others here. Youre living in lalaland my friend. I have many friends here. You will see what you want to see and I find it interesting how you chose to see things, to say the least.

"Tactics" ???? Shall we go there? Take a good look at your own "tactics" over the past few months.

On the topic of my "behavior". I contribute much, to each and every forum here. If you dont see it, it's because your eyes are closed shut and you stare only at YOURSELF and YOUR WORDS.

What have you done here lately???? Think hard about that one now. Youre going to try and trick yourself with the answer.
Anything you post has to do with YOURSELF and YOUR opinions and YOUR truth.
Do you really not see that???????

I dont show "remorse" to people that dont deserve it. To people that keep coming back - starting dramas - and then looking for everyone to love them when they feel it's time to apologize and feed their egos and hear how much everyone loves them.

That my friend is the Truth, whether YOU want to hear it or not.

posted November 19, 2004 11:37 PM              

"I didn't change the subject, the subject is you,and those like you who abuse their authority and their solidarity to silence others"

I believe that takes us back to censorship.

I'm disappointed that a Libran would continue to use the same ineffectual tactics after being called on them. Taking my quote out of context?

If you're going to be transparent and boring in these political maneuvers, you could at least be creative about them.

It is glaringly obvious that you didn't answer the question of who would moderator the behavior of the moderators if not the moderators themselves. Censorship is still the issue, you can answer the issue, take something from the point that is being made here, or continue with weak attempts to misuse my words.

I have an opinion and my opinion is valid in that there are others who have suffered being disrespected by moderators on this site when they presented an unpopular point of view.

In either event I'm still here, and I'm still returning what I receive. There are only two solutions, walk away though you disagree or use brute force to silence me.

Both will get rid of the percieved problem here (my opinion) one will get rid of me as well but won't say much for your dedication to free expression.

If your bullying in the past is any example, I expect you to respond for as long as you think I can be bullied into shutting up.

I cannot, so I am also resigned to expect the second solution as well.

As you wish.

Exercising the first solution would at least demonstrate that you are capable of leaving someone alone (or at least responding with some degree of tact)though you disagree with them.

It is the only response that will shut me up voluntarily, because it is the only one that will demonstrate that there is some hope for others whom you may disagree with here at Lindaland. (And no, I'm not speaking of me or anyone else that you have mentioned so far. There are others that you have wronged in a far greater way with your harsh words because they weren't expecting them. I amexpecting them, so you're having no effect on me whatsoever, except perhaps to give my fingers some exercise.)

I am in Rome and for now, will do as you Romans are doing.

posted November 19, 2004 11:39 PM              

I'm done here.

Go complain to your other friends about how bad LindaLand and it's Moderators are. How back in the ol' days things were so different, pretending you have nothing to do with it. lol

BTW, I know someone who was here WAY before you, and really does remember those "good ol' days" you speak of. And thinks it's hilarious that you even mention it.

Why not go start your own Linda Goodman website and show us how it's done?

posted November 19, 2004 11:39 PM              

Yes, ignore me. That will end this.

More hopeful for this place than I've been in awhile,

daf

P.S. 26Taurus, I'm not sure how many ways you can express that you want this to end, from "Let it go" to "this is done" to "Quit your bitchin." The answer remains the same: "as I see fit"

Since you are done here, perhaps I am too. You know how to end it, and you always have, you were simply under the impression that your words were going to do the trick. They will not. Ignoring me will.

posted November 19, 2004 11:52 PM              

I'll continue to be myself on this forum and not take any advice from you. Thank you.

posted November 19, 2004 11:55 PM              

I know this is your board, and yes, Randall, I do respect and appreciate that(I believe I've expressed as much in prose), but noone, including you has taken issue with this rude treatment of knowflakes(yes, we can exclude myself) by some of your moderators.

I DO take issue with it.

It would be much easier to ignore someone like IAmThat's posts about Homosexuality if you don't have anything nice to say, than it has been for these ladies to walk away from my opinions.

But they don't do that. Instead they say things that discourage these folks from speaking their minds.

If you can ignore me, you can ignore another's opinion, or at least respond to it respectfully and without venom.

Particularly when they haven't done anything but speak their minds, RESPECTFULLY, POLITELY and with good intentions.

(Again, I'm not speaking of me, I have been playing u-shaped tube to make a point here. I'm more than willing to pay the consequences for this post if it will allow people the freedom to speak without being rudely responded to or ganged up on by Mods.)

daf

P.S. 26Taurus, if being yourself means spouting venom and manhandling people for expressing perfectly reasonable opinions, you might want to rethink that course of action, with or without my advice to guide your decision. If that is who you TRULY are, then you are more than welcome to spout at and attempt to manhandle me verbally. I can more than take it, and I don't take offense as easily as some folks do. By the way, "The End" is the same thing as "quit your bitchin" "this is done" and "Let it go." For as long as you repeat it, I will do the same:

posted November 20, 2004 12:03 AM              

Ni modo, I've kept my mouth shut for too long about this insanity.

Are we still friends then, I hope? My friendship never faltered you know.

I pray for you ladies as I always have, and think of you often.

Love,

posted November 20, 2004 12:09 AM              

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Personally, I believe homosexuality is a man-made concept. I believe our soul is without gender. Homosexuality is not only about sex, but love. So, in short... people fall in love with people. Their physical bodies have a sex, but the soul does not. The soul is of a neutral sex. Homosexuality is just a label we've placed on something that many people have a very hard time understanding... but maybe it's not for them to understand?
Sorry... I'm exhausted from a very long day. I hope that made some sort of sense

*goes to bed*

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Over here, pyramid schemes are illegal, and yet, chuches are pyrmid schemes. If you donate to a church on a Sunday, you will be blessed, but that church will just make more churches and "bless" more people.
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Interesting analogy. I've never thought of this in those terms.

As far as biblical texts go, I cannot (personally) put much faith in them. Too many have been removed by the church hierarchy to suit their own biased version of what the want people to believe actually happened... or what the want people to believe.

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hmmmm still no personal attacks. Would you care to eat your words now?

Furthermore, everything beyond that point was about cusp and other astro stuff.

I know I said I was done here, but my weakness to correct what is wrong drove me to make one last post on the subject.

posted November 20, 2004 12:55 AM              

Its fun isn't it.

Daf has a valid point. I think he was referring to the comments made by Trillan. I think woman hear a lot different than men. Didn't some one write men are from Mars and women from Venus? She stood for Chad in that post. I totally understood where Tril was coming from and I forgave her.

The other point is how much freedom should be given to Moderators. Especially moderators who do not own the respective forum queues? Whats the definition of a moderator? (Well you won't have to answer this last question. Its not my biz

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"The ultimate test of a relationship is to disagree but hold hands. "

posted November 20, 2004 01:07 AM              

Now who told you that?

posted November 20, 2004 01:18 AM              

It isn't bad. I think that is what makes it a great nation.

posted November 20, 2004 01:30 AM              

That was pointed out as one specific example. The behavior that Mods have been demonstrating is reminiscent of this entire thread (on both sides), with the exception of the fact that I am now and have been using a great deal of restraint, just not as much as I am capable of. (Didn't think the situation warranted it.)

And yes, I am one hundred percent American. I love my country, it's the government that bugs me most of the time...when I let it.