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Petron
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posted December 12, 2004 02:11 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote


The STRANGE SIMILARITIES between the Bush Administration and the WORLD OF DR. SEUSS
Desmond Devlin-Mad Magazine november 2004

As you listen to George Bush and his administration you may notice a sort of bizarre logic emerge, a magical, childlike reality in which the only rules are the ones they make up themselves.If this fanciful way of looking at the world seems familiar, it should!!
Theodore Geisel(aka Dr. Seuss) perfected it decades ago. The big difference of course, is that Geisel did it for fun in a delightful series of children's books while Dubya and his cronies do it to settle old debts, gain access to oil and curry favor with their ultra-right wing base.....
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"I'm NOT GOING TO CHANGE,see?
I'm NOT TRYING to ACCOMMODATE.
I WON'T CHANGE my PHILOSOPHY
or my POINT OF VIEW."-President George W. Bush, February 7, 2004
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"Never budge!Thats my rule.Never budge in the least!
Not an inch to the west! Not an inch to the east!
I'll stay here not budging! I can and I will
If it makes you and me and the whole world stand still!"-THE SOUTH-GOING ZAX

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"My fellow Americans,
MAJOR COMBAT OPERATIONS
in Iraq have ENDED"-President George W. Bush , May 1, 2003
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"The rabbit felt mighty important that day
On top of the hill in the sun where he lay.
He felt SO important up there on the hill
That he started in bragging, as animals will."-THE BIG BRAG
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"I really BELIEVE that we will be greeted as LIBERATORS ,
I've talked with alot of Iraqi's in the last several months MYSELF"-Vice President Dick Cheney

"There is no question but that they would be welcomed....
go back to Afghanistan, the people were in the streets playing music,cheering flying kites
and doing all the things that the Taliban and Al Qaeda would not let them do."-Sec. of Defense Donald Rumsfeld february 20,2003

"Most Iraqi's welcomed us as liberators,
and we glowed with pleasure at that welcome...
the TREND IS IN OUR FAVOR."-U.S. Administrator in Baghdad L. Paul Bremer september 24,2003
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"At sunrise, we'll drive into Solla Sollew
and youll have no more troubles, I promise , I do.
but , when dawn finally came and the darkness got light,
that wonderful city was nowhere in sight.
instead of the city, we ran into trouble,
our camel got sick and he started to bubble.." -I had trouble in getting to Solla Sollew


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"It is necessary in the PUBLIC INTEREST
to use OTHER THAN COMPETATIVE PROCEDURES
in the procurements for the PRIME CONTRACTS.-"Deputy Secretary of Defense Paul Wolfowitz , December 5 ,2003
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"I called all my brothers and uncles and aunts
and I said , Listen here! Heres a wonderful chance
for the whole Once-ler Family to get mighty rich!
Get over here fast!Take the road to North Nitch!"-THE ONCE-LER in DR. Seuss's "The Lorax"

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"People in Iraq must understand that I view those practices as abhorrent...
they also must understand that what took place in that prison
does not represent the America that I know.."-President Bush may 18,2004


"It was inconsistent with the values of our nation.
It was inconsistent with the teachings of the military,
and it was certainly fundamentally UN-AMERICAN."-Sec. of Defense Donald Rumsfeld may 7 ,2004


"Any implication that this behavior was driven by direction in the chain of command
or by any pressure to get interrogation results from Washington D.C. is absolutely just not right.
I mean, that is not how it works at all..this is a failure of individuals
I frankly think we'll work our way through this just fine.."-Joint Chiefs of staff Chairman General Richard Meyers may 7 , 2004

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"But neither Bartholomew Cubbins,nor King Derwin himself
nor anyone else in the Kingdom of Didd
could ever explain how the strange thing happened.
They only could say it just 'happened to happen,'
and was not very likely to happen again."-The 500 hats of Bartholomew Cubbins

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"YOUR TACTICS only AID TERRORISTS,
for they ERODE our NATIONAL UNITY
and DIMINISH OUR RESOLVE,
They give AMMUNITION to America's ENEMIES,
and PAUSE to America's FRIENDS."-Attorney General John Ashcroft December 6, 2001

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"SILENCE!" The King of the Turtles barked back.
"I'm King , and you're only a turtle named Mack.
You stay in your place while I sit here and rule."-YERTLE THE TURTLE

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THE PRESIDENT: You know, I just -- I'm sure something will pop into my head
here in the midst of this press conference,
with all the pressure of trying to come up with an answer, but it hadn't yet.
I hope I -- I don't want to sound like I've made no mistakes.
I'm confident I have. I just haven't -- you just put me under the spot here,
and maybe I'm not as quick on my feet as I should be in coming up with one."-april 4,2004
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"Please sir.I dont like this trick,sir.
My tongue isn't quick or slick, sir."-FOX IN SOCKS

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posted December 12, 2004 04:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for BlueRoamer     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Both funny and scary

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posted December 12, 2004 10:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The Democrats need to get over it. Bush won the election, won 2500 of the 3000 counties in the US and will be President for the next 4 years.

All the nonsense you can come up with isn't going to change those facts nor obscure the fact that in spite of being labeled a dummy, Bush politically kicked the collective $sses of the entire Democrat party, the leftist press, MoveOn.org, Hollywood, George Soros, the 527 groups operating illegally and effectively showed America the dirty faces of the far left crowd. Since those facts are undeniably true one must wonder about the intellectual capacity of the American far left.

My opinion is that collectively, the far left in America doesn't have enough intellectual firepower to understand just how thoroughly their $ssed got kicked in the last election.

In fact, they have once again misunderestimated George Bush. I like that, I like that a lot because it means the far left is further away from the levers of power in America than ever and the Democrat party is not likely to ever recover without getting rid of the idiot far leftists in the Democrat party and the apparachniks in the radical far left fringe 527 groups.

Nevertheless Petron, keep those cute little pieces coming. I enjoy reading them and ever time I do, I get a mental image of a sour little troll hunched over their keyboard with their brain in neutral. I also know if they tried to actually engage their brain, they would burn out their few remaining brain cells.


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posted December 13, 2004 05:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for BlueRoamer     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Jwhop it seems to me that you're trying to convince yourself of your beliefs, rather than convince others. Maybe there's a compassionate human being somewhere down in that twisted soul? I sure hope so.

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posted December 13, 2004 05:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I would never try to convert you into a conservative BlueRoamer.

But since you are the one who brought up twisted souls, let me remind you that never, never in the history of America has a president been so vilified as George Bush has been by the far left radicals in America and that while we're in a war that we didn't start. The way I see it is simple. If far leftist radicals can't take it, then don't try dishing it out.

BTW, don't attempt to give me lessons in compassion. I've had the advantage of seeing some of your posts.

Same thing applies to advice...for the reason I've already posted.

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posted December 13, 2004 05:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for pidaua     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
OMG...wow...now I am totally convinced...Bush and Dr. Seuss are one in the same...I should be a demoncrat now..because they so eloquently showed me that they can draw comparisons between a friggin cartoon character / childrens book and the President of the United States.

Man..that is so intelligent...no wonder these nutbars look up to Michael Moore...

BTW...everything I said, is tongue in cheek..dripping with sarcasm.

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posted December 13, 2004 05:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for pidaua     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Actually..you know what comparisons most get my attention? Ones like the following..an intelligent and fully relevent article concerning our "real" welfare (no..not the handout kind where you get a check to sit on your butt), but the kind that influences our safety.

WASHINGTON - Murders in the United States dropped by nearly 6 percent in the first half of the year after rising for four straight years, the FBI (news - web sites) reported Monday. Almost all other crimes declined, too.


Overall, violent crime was down 2 percent in the first six months of the year compared with the same period of 2003, according to preliminary figures provided to the FBI by more than 10,700 state and local police agencies. Violent crime includes murder, rape, robbery and aggravated assault.


Property crimes — burglary, larceny and motor vehicle theft — also declined about 2 percent, and arsons fell by nearly 7 percent. The only crime that increased was rape, which was up 1.4 percent nationwide and 6.5 percent in cities with populations of 1 million or more.


Experts aren't sure why crime is falling. James Lynch, professor at American University's Department of Justice (news - web sites), Law and Society, said it could be because of increased focus on homeland security.


"You're after terrorists, but you're picking up other things," Lynch said. "That's the only thing I can think of because the economy certainly isn't robust."


James Alan Fox, a criminal justice professor at Northeastern University, said while the news overall is good, it's too early to know if the recent trend for murders has been reversed since the latest report only covers the first six months of 2004. He said killings tend to spike during the months when young people are out of school, so they could be higher in the second half of the year.


The latest FBI report does not include raw totals for categories of crimes, only percentages of increase or decrease compared with the first half of 2003. The final report for all of 2004 will be released next fall.


Based on last year's figures, though, it can be estimated that there were about 400-500 fewer murders in the first half of the year.


The drop was seen in each region of the country, with the South seeing the biggest decline, 8.3 percent. It was even more pronounced in cities with more than 1 million residents — 8.7 percent.


There was a particularly steep decline in Chicago, which reported 215 murders in the first half of the year compared with 287 a year earlier. Phoenix, New Orleans and New York City also had significant declines.


Chicago police spokesman Pat Camden said the department has been focused on fighting gangs, guns and drugs for more than a year. He said police have put cameras in known drug areas, beefed up patrols after gang shootings to prevent retaliatory violence and strictly enforced the city's handgun ban, collecting more than 10,000 weapons a year.


"As for a specific reason it's going down, if we knew that we'd bottle it and sell it," Camden said.


Violent crime has been falling for years but the number of murders has inched up after reaching a low of about 15,500 in 1999. The number crept up to more than 16,500 in 2003, or almost six murders for every 100,000 U.S. residents.


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On the Net:


FBI report: http://www.fbi.gov/ucr/2004/6mosprelim04.pdf


List of crime rates in major metropolitan areas:


http://wid.ap.org/documents/fbi/ucr2004cities.pdf


Hmmmm...the crime rate (MURDERS AND VIOLENT CRIMES) is DOWN....why? Oh..that little thing called HOMELAND SECURITY

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posted December 15, 2004 11:12 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
"The ethic of conservation is the explicit abnegation of man's dominion over the Earth. The lower species are here for our use. God said so: Go forth, be fruitful, multiply, and rape the planet--it's yours." -ann coulter

"We know who the homicidal maniacs are.
They are the ones cheering and dancing right now.
We should invade their countries,
kill their leaders and convert them to Christianity."-ann coulter


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I am Prepared

When I cross the Bar of the Great Blue Beyonder
I know that my Maker, without pause or ponder,
Will welcome my soul. For my record is scar-less
I've eaten no oysters in months that are R-less.-Theodore Geisel

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how do you make ann coulters eyes twinkle?
shine a flashlight in her ear!-Petron

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posted December 16, 2004 12:13 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
lol, i love ann coulter.

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posted December 16, 2004 12:47 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Well, I like Ann Coulter too but I never thought Petron would be big enough fan of Ann Coulter to quote her.


It's Dr. Rice, Not Dr. Dre
December 1, 2004
Ann Coulter


In light of their reaction to the nomination of Condoleezza Rice as secretary of state, I gather liberals have gotten over their enthusiasm for multiculturalist milestones. It's interesting that they dropped their celebrations of the "first woman!" "first black!" "first Asian!" designations at the precise moment that we are about to get our first black female secretary of state.

When Madeline Albright was appointed the FIRST WOMAN secretary of state, the media was euphoric. (And if memory serves, Monica Lewinsky was the first Jewish female to occupy her various positions on the president's, uh, staff.)

With Albright at the helm of the State Department, Osama bin Laden ran wild throughout the Middle East, the North Koreans began feverishly building nukes under her nose, and we staged a pre-emptive attack solely for purposes of regime change based on false information presented to the American people by Albright about a world leader who was not an imminent threat to the United States. Slobodan Milosevic wasn't even a latent, long-term, hypothetical threat.

But the girls in the mainstream media were too smitten with Albright's brooch collection and high heels to notice the shambles she was making of foreign policy.

The New York Times raved about Albright's brooches in an article titled, "A Diplomat Who Says 'Read My Pins.'" In the San Francisco Chronicle, Leah Garchik was amazed by Albright's "jewel-encrusted flag" pin -- Albright's clever ruse to prove that Republicans did not have "dibs on patriotic jewelry." Perhaps Rice could impress American journalists if she talked more about her accessorizing.

People magazine quoted an aide gushing that Albright "stays in her heels all day." Albright herself told Harper's Bazaar, "I've kidded that the advantage of being a woman secretary of state is makeup." This was a great leap forward for feminism? At this point even Paris Hilton was rolling her eyes and saying, "Oh, come on now!"

But Bush nominates a brilliant geopolitical thinker who happens to be black and female and all of a sudden she's Butterfly McQueen, who don't know nothin' 'bout birthin' no Middle Eastern democracies.

Earlier this year, the flamboyant Richard Clarke claimed that when he briefed Rice in early 2001 about al-Qaida, her "facial expression gave me the impression that she had never heard the term before." It's good to know that Clinton's chief terrorism "expert" believes himself to possess paranormal abilities such as ESP.

Why couldn't Dick Clarke have used some of those mind-reading skills on Osama before al-Qaida blew up the USS Cole in October 2000? Or after? To the bitter end, the official position of the Clinton administration was that it couldn't say for sure who was responsible for the Cole attack.

Apparently, liberals believe Rice compares unfavorably to Madeline Albright, whose principle accomplishment before becoming secretary of state was managing to attain the age of 60 without realizing she was Jewish. That was raw competence.

I take that back: Albright also taught at Georgetown University. Of course, American universities make professors of people like Eldridge Cleaver's wife. (Kathleen Cleaver is currently at Yale law school; Susan Rosenberg, a participant in a Brinks car robbery, teaches at Hamilton College; former Weatherman Bill Ayers is a distinguished professor of education at the University of Illinois-Chicago; and former Weatherman Bernardine Dohrn is the director of a legal clinic at Northwestern University.)

Or how about Clinton's first secretary of state, Warren Christopher, a lawyer whose dazzling foreign policy experience consisted of being President Carter's chief negotiator for the hostages in Iran? That's almost as impressive a resume entry as "Chief Iceberg Lookout, the Titanic," "Senior Design Engineer, the Edsel," "Navigator, Exxon Valdez," or "Writer/Executive Producer, 'Alexander.'"

The closest black woman to Bill Clinton was his secretary, Betty Currie -- whose principal function was penciling in "Monica" on Clinton's "To Do" list every morning. The closest black woman to most of the liberals accusing Rice of being incompetent is the maid they periodically accuse of stealing from the liquor cabinet.

George Bush chose a black woman to be his top adviser on national security. Now he wants her as his secretary of state. And when she becomes the first black female secretary of state, Rice will replace the first black secretary of state -- both appointed by right-wing Republican George Bush. The entire Bush cabinet is starting to look like an Image Awards telecast minus the fisticuffs and gunplay.

Democrats are terrified that black people might start to notice.

Say, there's a black woman standing next to President Bush ... who is that?

Never mind! It's probably somebody he's arresting!

It's extremely valuable for Democrats to be able to campaign in black neighborhoods while talking about the "white boys" running the Republican Party. When she was managing Al Gore's 2000 campaign, Donna Brazile said she was not going to "let the white boys win in this election." (If I had a nickel for every time I've confused Al Gore, Joe Lieberman, Terry McAuliffe, Paul Begala and James Carville for the Jackson Five ...)

Sure enough, Brazile was instrumental in not letting a couple of white boys -- named Al and Joe -- win the election. I guess that's liberals' idea of a "competent" black woman.
http://www.anncoulter.org/columns/2004/120104.htm

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well apparently ann coulter doesnt realize that those "leaders" she wants to kill are actually the ones kissing hugging and holding hands with the guy she voted for....
as for rice.....(and with all due respect to her....)


I meant what I said, and I said what I meant.
An elephant's faithful, one hundred percent.-Dr. Seuss, Horton hatches the egg

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posted December 16, 2004 07:38 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Well Petron, it's nice, for a change, to have an administration who mean what they say and say what they mean, especially after 8 years of Kommander Corruption.

You seem to have liked the last one, so here's another

The Loss That Keeps On Giving!
November 17, 2004
Ann Coulter


As we wait for CBS to concede the election, Democrats are claiming Kerry lost because Americans are stupid – and if there's one thing voters respond to, it's crude insults.

This is not only the first step of a brilliant strategy to win the red states back, but also inconsistent with the Democrats' theory that Bush was an illegitimate president for the last four years because Democratic voters in Florida were too dumb to follow an arrow to the circle by Al Gore's name. How stupid were the alleged Gore-supporters who couldn't figure out how to cast a vote in the 2000 election?

Using classical Marxist thinking, liberals can't fathom how issues like abortion and gay marriage could trump ordinary people's economic interests -– which liberals axiomatically assume are furthered by the Democrats' offers of government assistance. Democrats are saying to voters: How can you be so stupid to subordinate your own selfish economic interests to "moral values," the betterment of the country and the general welfare of people you don't even know?

It can only be false consciousness. If liberals think the Bush vote was composed of illiterate homophobes who fear women in the workplace, perhaps the Democrats should start demanding literacy tests to vote.

Garry Wills – who fills in "occupation" on his federal tax return with "self-hating Catholic" – denounced America in the New York Times as an unenlightened nation full of people who believe "more fervently in the Virgin Birth than in evolution."

By contrast, apparently, "enlightened" people believe in the Aborted Birth more fervently than they believe in national defense. And just in the interest of fairness here, Garry: At least there's some documentation on the Virgin Birth story. For people who believe so fervently in evolution, these Bush mandate-deniers sure are resistant to it on a personal level.

On the same day, on the same nuanced Times editorial page, both Wills and Maureen Dowd wrote that Kerry was defeated by a "jihad" of Christians. The jihadists, according to Wills, were driven by "fundamentalist zeal, a rage at secularity, religious intolerance, fear of and hatred for modernity." Dowd said they were "a devoted flock of evangelicals, or 'values voters,' as they call themselves ... opposing abortion, suffocating stem-cell research and supporting a constitutional amendment against gay marriage." Finally – a jihad liberals oppose!

Speaking of gay marriage, as long as liberals are so big on discussing "mandates" and whether Bush has one (they say he does not), I think the one thing we can all agree on is that there is definitely a "mandate" against gay marriage. In fact, a clear majority of us are uncomfortable with the word "mandate" because it sounds like Wayne asking Stephen out for dinner and a movie.

Reacting to Bush's re-election in that calm, reasoned way we have come to expect of liberals, they are running to psychotherapists, threatening to move to Canada and warning of a fascist police state – including their fear of a Hollywood "blacklist." (Now you understand how the myth of McCarthyism began, red states!)

One depressed Kerry voter committed suicide at Ground Zero. Meanwhile, the entire Democratic Party is also contemplating political suicide by making Howard Dean its next chairman.

Some Democrats are so despondent they've contemplated (hushed whisper) prayer. They're just not sure if they're supposed to pray to Bill Clinton or to their "Higher Power."

The day after the election, documentary filmmaker and Upper West Side denizen Mitch Wood told the New York Times: "Watching my kids this morning, going down the street, flicking things in the air, jumping around, I wondered, are they going to have that sense of freedom that I had growing up?"

As if on cue, a commercial jetliner piloted by Islamofascist hijackers did NOT crash in front of Wood at this point, killing his entire family instantly, in silent testimony to the national security we currently enjoy under President Bush. Wood gave no indication of noticing this.

A teacher on the Upper West Side, Ireena Gurvich, said, "I'm thinking of leaving the country." Gurvich said she wanted to go to Canada because, "it's a kinder and gentler United States." And yet you still ask why our children cannot read or write.

Another denizen of the Upper West Side, Patty Fondrie, said: "If it gets bad, we'll go to France," where she will probably be murdered by Muslims.

Michael Conway, an administrator at United Talent Agency in Beverly Hills, Calif., was quoted in the Times worrying, "What's going to happen, some kind of blacklist?" – suggesting an entirely new, if somewhat scatological connotation, to the term "A-list."

I think we have a long way to go from Michael Moore being an honored guest at the Democratic National Convention to a "blacklist" –- except for actors who believe abortion and gay marriage are "wrong." But here's hoping.

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posted December 16, 2004 01:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Harpyr     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The ethic of conservation is the explicit abnegation of man's dominion over the Earth. The lower species are here for our use. God said so: Go forth, be fruitful, multiply, and rape the planet--it's yours." -ann coulter

Did she really say that? It's so disgusting and ignorant.

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posted December 16, 2004 01:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for pidaua     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Petron,

Please site the book / page or interview where you quoted Ann Coulter. I'd like to know if she 1) really said it and 2) if those quotes were taken out of context and were actually apart of a smart a$$ response to a stupid question.

To Ms. Coulter's credit, whenever she quotes a liberal she always adds the citation and context to avoid providing "mis" information.

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posted December 16, 2004 02:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Harpyr     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
hmmm.. looks like she really said it. How sad. She's one sick and twisted person.

"The ethic of conservation is the explicit abnegation of man's dominion over the Earth. The lower species are here for our use. God said so: Go forth, be fruitful, multiply, and rape the planet -- it's yours. That's our job: drilling, mining and stripping. Sweaters are the anti-Biblical view. Big gas-guzzling cars with phones and CD players and wet bars -- that's the Biblical view. "
http://www.jewishworldreview.com/cols/coulter101300.asp

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like i said before, i dont just make stuff up on the spot like jwhop does.....

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posted December 16, 2004 07:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
List 5 things I made up Petron. Oh, and post them right here.

Ann Coulter has it right and the loopy left has it wrong...as usual. Perhaps Algore thought he would pay the Chinese off for those illegal campaign contributions by having the government purchase every American a bicycle made in China.

Thanks for the link, I hadn't read this article. Ann makes perfect sense...as usual.

Ann Coulter
Oil good; Dems bad

http://www.jewishworldreview.com --

AL GORE'S idea of "standing up to 'Big Oil'" is for all of us to ride bikes and wear heavier coats in the winter. We're supposed to ratchet back our expectations so that we don't disturb some migratory bird by drilling for oil in Alaska.

This is nothing more than warmed-over Jimmy Carter lecturing us to turn down the thermostat as he sat by the fire in that ridiculous cardigan sweater. Democrats love energy policies that don't involve the creation of new energy. They just want to harangue us into giving things up. "Environmentally friendly" means a life of austerity.

What does he think we are -- Swedes? We're Americans. This is a prosperous country. We will not live like Swedes. We want 18-ton Ford Exploro-cruisers, cell phones, CDs, hot showers, blow dryers, DVD players and jet skis.

Fuel is the metric of prosperity, and conservationism is an acknowledgement that we are in decline of prosperity -- that this is the beginning of the long bleak twilight of civilization. If you posit that we have fixed energy sources and we have to ration them, then we are dying as a species.

The ethic of conservation is the explicit abnegation of man's dominion over the Earth. The lower species are here for our use. God said so: Go forth, be fruitful, multiply, and rape the planet -- it's yours. That's our job: drilling, mining and stripping. Sweaters are the anti-Biblical view. Big gas-guzzling cars with phones and CD players and wet bars -- that's the Biblical view.

Producing oil isn't so bad for the environment anyway. During World War II, our boats were going at breakneck speed to get oil to England (what with the war and all). There were oil spills everywhere. Half the beaches in the United States were slathered in oil. Six weeks later all the birds were back.

You couldn't get rid of the environment if you tried. Alaska is immense, caribou love the Alaskan pipeline, they've grouped there, frolicking and leaping over the pipeline ... but I'm lost in an irrelevancy. The point is: We need oil for our CAT scan machines, airplanes, computers and refrigerators.

Al Gore billed his energy plan as "a new, bold way of thinking" and then went on to propose tax credits for solar-powered cars and hand implements for farming. (These are some of the "right people" deserving of tax breaks under a Gore regime.) If Bush is in the pocket of the "Big Oil," then Gore is in the pocket of "Big Windmills.

" Bush responded by saying, That's not an energy policy! He sensibly proposed that we explore for more oil with the latest environmentally sensitive technologies to ensure our lessened dependence on OPEC and oil-controlling lunatics like Saddam Hussein.

Let's see, who should go get the oil from our domestic oil reserves? Big Jell-O companies? Big Car companies? The trial lawyers? No! The oil companies. Somebody has to get the stuff that runs our DVD players and allows us to go to the bathroom indoors. Being for a free market in oil is called being for "Big Oil."

Meanwhile, pretty much every "energy crisis" this country has ever experienced can be traced back to some government policy mucking up the free market.

President Nixon was the first to instigate government interference in the oil market. He instituted "Project Independence" in 1974 with the expressed goal of making America independent of foreign oil. Just 15 years later, America's dependence on foreign oil had risen from 35 percent to 45 percent.

Sweater-wearing Jimmy Carter instituted his own macho energy policy, Project MEOW (Moral Equivalent of War), against foreign oil. He established import quotas, placed rations on oil and signed a "windfall profits" tax.

Anticipating nuts like Gore, Carter also encouraged the development of alternative sources of fuel, including oil shale and solar power. (And that's why we're all driving solar-powered cars today.) Congress jumped on the nut-case bandwagon and issued an official declaration stating that bicycles are "the most efficient means of transportation." This was a really loopy country in the '70s.

Massive gas shortages ensued, gas lines became interminable serpentine nightmares, and America's reliance on imported foreign oil doubled. Finally, a man entered the Oval Office and rescued the country from its terminal silliness. On the day Ronald Reagan was inaugurated, his first executive order was to lift all energy price controls. Oil prices soared in the short term (damn those oil companies!), but as a consequence, domestic production and exploration skyrocketed -- triggering a 20-year low in oil prices.

Bush will give us a free market in oil so we can afford to keep the lights on. Gore will boldly lead us into the post-industrial Dark Age. Cardigan sweaters or SUVs? Over to you, America.


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well i try so hard to stay on-topic so....jwhop ill think about your offer in a new thread here....
http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum16/HTML/001040.html

meanwhile i found this while looking for your democrats spend pork farticle
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Libertarians Call Dr. Seuss Memorial Much Green Eggs And Pork
By Jim Burns
CNS Senior Staff Writer
December 05, 2000

(CNSNews.com) - A proposed memorial in Springfield, Massachusetts to its native son Theodor Geisel, better known as "Dr. Seuss", the author of The Cat in the Hat, Green Eggs and Ham and other children's books, has drawn the ire of the Libertarian Party, especially because of what it will cost the federal government: $400,000.

The Springfield Library and Museum Association would build the memorial. Four-hundred thousand dollars was inserted into a Department of Housing and Urban Development 2001 appropriations bill by Senator Edward Kennedy (D-MA) and Representative Richard Neal (D-MA). Congress is expected to vote on the HUD bill this week during its "lame duck" session.

Neal even composed a verse when announcing the appropriation in Washington:

"We love Ted Geisel, yes we do. We love the Grinch. We love the Whos. But most of all, our whole fam, loves to read Green Eggs and Ham. And so, in honor of Springfield's wonderful writing man, we're proud of this grant from Uncle Sam."

The Libertarians are not impressed, calling the memorial "wasteful pork spending." The party has its own verse as well: "We do not like it, Pork-I-Am. This spendaholic, Uncle Sam. We do not like those R's and D's, who can't resist more subsidies. We do not like the cash they waste, sky high taxes spent in haste. Frugality, they have erased, and every bill, of pork it tastes."

"We do not like it on the Hill, when snuck into HUD's spending bill. It shouldn't pass. We bet it will. More money from the public till. We would not vote for Pork-I-Am or subsidize green eggs and ham. Job training programs for the Grinch? We would not even budge an inch. And if a cat needed a hat? Free enterprise is there for that," the Libertarians continued.

The Libertarians concluded: "Now, just in case you are obtuse, I'll make it clear, with no excuse. We would not do it for a moose, we would not do it for a goose. And as you may by now deduce, we'd vote 'no' on Doctor Seuss."

Officials in Springfield say Geisel's widow has contributed $1 million to the memorial, thus getting the project within $400,000 of its funding goal. Neal vows if Congress doesn't pass the appropriation this year, he will try again next year.

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Jwhop:
I love how you demand things like a little Victorian age princess, it cracks me up. "I demand you perform these 17 tasks, immediately, post haste!"

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well he only asked for 5

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i would have put this in the bushism thread but i wanted to make sure i was on topic


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There's a lot of interesting talk about capital gains taxes, double taxation of dividends. There was certainly a very strong sentiment that we're on the right track when it comes to holding people to account who lie, steat or cheal -- lie, cheat or steal (laughter) who defraud people by cooking the books. There was some strong sentiment from CEO and non-CEO alike.

I came away from that summit that the small business person feels constrained by tax policy and regulatory policy and I was really appreciated the people coming. I thought it was a very good summit.

Last question and then I've got to go.

Q Thank you, Mr. President. Just to follow up on that, are you planning on producing a new economic package --

THE PRESIDENT: Lie, cheat or steal. (Laughter.)

Q Are you planning on producing a new economic package?
http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2002/08/20020816-3.html

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it seems like it took a little while for him to figure out if he said that right.....another fruedian slip? or does it just take him awhile to react like on 911?
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"AMERICA IS UNDER ATTACK!!"

5 minutes later.....still nothing registers....

Now the news has arrived from the Valley of Vail
That a Chippendale Mupp has just bitten his tail,
Which he does every night before shutting his eyes
Such nipping sounds silly. But really, it's wise.

He has no alarm clock. So this is the way
He makes sure that he'll wake at the right time of day.
His tail is so long, he wont feel any pain
'Til the nip makes the trip and gets up to his brain.
In exactly eight hours, the Chippendale Mupp
Will, at last, feel the bite and yell "Ouch!" and wake up! -Dr. Seuss's Sleep Book

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"Rove recalls that Bush “was a certain way in 1988, and he was significantly different by 1990, 1992, 1994. I think it’s his own life experience, waking up and saying ‘I’m not going to drink because it saps my energy and drains my focus" http://www.time.com/time/press_releases/article/0,8599,1009842,00.html


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oh my lord!!

look at some of ann coulters quotes listed at wiki
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ann_Coulter

i can find no Seuss poems that are nearly this vile,
excuse me, i must go now, im puking up bile...-Petron

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posted December 17, 2004 02:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Harpyr     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
sorry Petron.. I didn't mean to imply that you were posting false info I was just so shocked that somebody would come out and make such an ugly, ignorant statement such as that.. I guess I shouldn't have been surprised considering some of the other horrible things she's said..

Ann Coulter on women and voting-

It would be a much better country if women did not vote. That is simply a fact. In fact, in every presidential election since 1950 - except Goldwater in '64 - the Republican would have won, if only the men had voted."
The Guardian May 17, 2003.

"I think [women] should be armed but should not [be allowed to] vote...women have no capacity to understand how money is earned. They have a lot of ideas on how to spend it...it's always more money on education, more money on child care, more money on day care." - Politically Incorrect, February 26, 2001.

"I think there should be a literacy test and a poll tax for people to vote." Fox News, Hannity & Colmes, August 17, 1997.

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not you Harpyr, pidaua was questioning the quotes..she must not follow ann coulters work....


having watched coulter on foxnews many times im not really surprised at any of them either...

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What an ugly bitter woman that Coulter is. . A shame.

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