posted December 23, 2004 04:30 PM              

you and your so called "sources" have made up everything ive pointed out from wholecloth
and theres more

just because youre not big enough to admit it doesnt mean i'm going to argue the facts that ive pointed out to you

after all your sanctimonious "talk" about facts and sources, youve been shown to "extrapolate" all your ridiculous statements based on uninformed idiots blogs lol

and ive lost patience with you after your direct insult about how i "dont give a damn about American casualties"

i will continue to talk to you the way you talk to me and every1 else here,

posted December 23, 2004 04:35 PM              

but i will use "jwhopese" and say..
"whered you get this sourceless drivel this time jwhop? the satirical tripe of mahatma?"

or how about..."People with small brains should learn to keep their oversized mouths firmly shut"

posted December 23, 2004 06:28 PM              

kind of like when you say this in denial of u.s. active support of saddams chemical,biological,and nuclear programs.....

"I've heard all the stuff before that the US supplied the chemical weapons Iraq used on Iran. It's been denied by Cap Weinburger who was in a position to know"
"The only reason he even knew about it was because allegations forced him to check to find out. "-jwhop

do you mean indictment and trials for LYING TO CONGRESS about illegally supplying iran with hi tech anti aircraft ground-to-air systems(and only GOD knows what else.......)

that would be like saying that o.j. checked into whether or not his wife was murdered because allegations forced him to....lol

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"I don't have to dig up lies, innuendo and rumor to post"-jwhop

posted December 26, 2004 09:26 PM            

Also..The CDA- resort is ours...I am going to CDA, the city, to visit family..but not the resort. ..that is Leo / Sag territory..shhhhh..don't tell....

I knew Miss Ann Coulter was cool...a fellow Archer..Yeah..Baby..gotta love that.

posted December 27, 2004 05:33 PM              

http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum16/HTML/000669.html

"The Bush connection to those in Saudi Arabia is through the bin Laden family....a family which is not in the oil business, is not part of the Royal Family and in fact, is in the construction business, NOT the oil business, having an ongoing contract to construct the institutional buildings of Saudi Arabia. Further, during the time the Caryle Group was making a lot of money with Saudi Arabian contracts, neither the President or Bush senior were connected in any way to the Caryle Group. Neither Bush or the Bush family has a single thing to do with Saudi ownership of any investments in America nor did the Bush family have a single thing to do with helping the Saudis acquire their US holdings."-jwhop

(are you saying the binladens are the only connection between saudi arabia and the bush family?)

"He made the decision on his own after consulting with the FBI who bounced the decision off him AFTER the FBI HAD interviewed the Saudis they were interested in questioning"-jwhop [on richard clarke]

posted December 31, 2004 02:04 PM            

Ted Bundy was a Sagittarius, also ... Sun, Moon, and Mars to be precise.

Not meaning much by it but the fact that Ann Coulter is an archer doesn't count for much. Sag is known for being honest and blunt, sure, but also for being blinded by dogma, being over zealous, being tempermental and argumentative, and missing the point entirely by focusing far too much on the "big" picture rather than the necessary details. I see the typical love of all things extravagent and materialistic (clothes, food, nice cars, looks, etc.) in her comments about having the "pretty" girls on her side. Maybe fellow Sag Britney Spears has jumped on her bandwagon, too.
Sag is a dual sign after all, and while the potential exists to follow the human part of the nature, there are plenty more Sags out there revelling in being the horse's a$$.

posted January 05, 2005 07:47 PM            

And I can't marry jwhop..I am already engaged you funny little Archer you- (careful you don't shoot yourself in the butt in your attempt to try to wing me).

posted January 09, 2005 09:31 PM              

and this would indicate that the 1 binary cyclosarin shell ied we did find was probably not even primed for use......

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During its war with Iran, Iraq initiated the use of chemical weapons, beginning with sulfur mustard in 1983, progressing to tabun in 1984, and then to sarin (and eventually VX) beginning in 1987. Sarin was also used in attacks on Iraqi civilians, most notably in the March, 1988 destruction of the Halabja, where civilian deaths caused by a cocktail of different agents have been estimated at 5000.

Iraq mass produced sarin during the Iran-Iraq war with the expectation that it would be used quickly, and they therefore skipped several purification steps. Fresh agent was about 60% pure and heavily contaminated with hydrogen fluoride (which, of course, also causes health problems in exposed individuals). When production caught up with demand, the Iraqis started storing their sarin in refrigerated "igloos" to prolong its storage life. However, even when stored in the igloos, the material rapidly degraded, becoming less than 10% pure within 2 years.

This was one of the factors that lead the Iraqis to investigate binary weapons, for which sarin is particularly well suited. While the had not mastered the art of manufacturing binary munitions in which the mixing of the precursors occured on firing at the time of the invasion of Kuwait, they had developed a simple process for generating the agent immediately before use: a warhead or shell would be given a partial fill of isopropanal (and often cyclohexanol, a precursor for the related nerve agent GF, sometimes known as cyclosarin) and stored along with plastic containers of methylphosphonic difluoride (DF). Shortly before the munition was to be used an Iraqi soldier would be provided with a gas mask and would pour an appropriate amount of the DF into the munition. This eliminated storage issues.
http://www.cbwinfo.com/Chemical/Nerve/GB.shtml

"Are you so very certain "real" chemical weapons were not involved in the foiled attack in Amman Jordan?"-jwhop

"Some of this is year old news Petron. Nevertheless, it doesn't seem to have penetrated the barriers the left puts up to avoid facts not favorable to their intemperate allegations."-jwhop

"Fact is Petron, the left has been almost universally wrong about every allegation they've made. It really is time the left started to eat some of those words. Question is Petron, are you going to be the one to take the first bite---and if so, do you want those words served hot or cold?"-jwhop

posted January 10, 2005 12:55 PM            

No, I am not "equating" Ann Coulter with Ted Bundy. Let's be precise. You stated that you,

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knew Miss Ann Coulter was cool...a fellow Archer

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That statement suggests that simply by virtue of being a Saggitarius, Ann Coulter is cool. I did not automatically assume that you were making such an obvious error of logic so I did not state that you were. Still, I wanted to clarify that simply being one particular Sun sign does not automaically qualify anyone as being "cool". Hence, the example of Ted Bundy who, like Ann Coulter, yourself, and myself, is also a Saggitarius. To assume that by giving him as an example of an arguably "uncool" Saggitarius is the same as equating him to Ann Coulter is no different than assuming that I'm equating him with all Saggitarians, myself included. How silly and erroneous in logic is that?

Furthermore, I clearly stated,

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Not meaning much by it but the fact that Ann Coulter is an archer doesn't count for much.

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It isn't so much my intelligence that is called to our attention here as it is your glaring lack of proficiency in reading comprehension.

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Note the winky smiley face there. I'm joking on that last comment. Your sarcasm needed a friendly balance is all.

posted January 11, 2005 06:09 PM              

Why not the poetry forum? What the hell is that supposed to mean?

posted January 11, 2005 06:29 PM              

"Haliburton isn't involved directly in oil production, distribution
refining or transportation."-jwhop

you might not say that being the worlds largest exploration, drilling, well construction and maintainance, plus project management services to be "directly" involved in oil production....but i would...

and especially in iraq

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WASHINGTON (CNN) - Halliburton Co.'s $7 billion contract, awarded without competition, to make emergency repairs to Iraq's oil infrastructure also gives it the power to run all phases of Iraq's oil industry, according to U.S. Rep. Henry Waxman, D-Calif.

Waxman said, based on a letter he received May 2 from the Army, that "the contract with Halliburton -- a company with close ties to the administration -- can include 'operation' of Iraqi oil fields and 'distribution' of Iraqi oil."

The awarding of the contract in March prompted some lawmakers, along with watchdog groups, to question whether the administration's deep ties with Halliburton helped secure the contract.

"There don't seem to be any criteria [for picking the contractor], other than the close connections a company might have with the administration," said Charlie Cray, director of the corporate reform campaign at Citizen Works, a Washington watchdog group founded by Ralph Nader. "The fact that the contracts are secret enhances the appearance of handing out contracts to cronies."
http://money.cnn.com/2003/05/07/news/companies/halliburton_iraq_con/

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"Fact-----Haliburton is NOT one of the companies which will benefit from refurbishing Iraq's oil fields."-jwhop

you dont consider billions$$$ much "benefit".....is that it?
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Halliburton Passes $10B Mark in Iraq Work
9 December 2004, 5:50pm ET

By MATT KELLEY Associated Press Writer
WASHINGTON (AP) -- Halliburton Co. has passed the $10 billion mark in work orders from the Army for services supporting U.S. troops in Iraq.

The Army Materiel Command has ordered $8.3 billion in work from Halliburton under a contract to support troops with meals, laundry, housing and other services. The Army Corps of Engineers awarded an additional $2.5 billion to Halliburton under a no-bid contract to fight oil fires and help restore Iraq's crumbling oil industry infrastructure.
http://finance.lycos.com/qc/news/story.aspx?symbols=NYSE:HAL&story=200412092250_APO_V 4421

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January 9, 2005
Halliburton awarded more than 10 (b) billion dollars of work in Iraq
WASHINGTON Despite investigations of alleged financial misdeeds, Halliburton Company has passed the ten (b) billion dollar mark in Iraq work orders from the Army.

The Army has ordered more than eight (b) billion dollars worth of work from Halliburton under a contract to support soldiers with meals, housing, laundry and other services. Halliburton got two-point-five (b) billion more in work from the Army Corps of Engineers to put out oil well fires and shore up Iraq's dilapidated oil infrastructure.
http://www.woodtv.com/Global/story.asp?S=2675107

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"Haliburton is no longer in the running for contracts to refurbish the Iraqi oil fields as the article I posted a link to states. Did you not read it? Your information is out of date."-jwhop

i wonder if jwhop is sure thats what that farticle said??(it could just be more interpretive embellishment)

Update 17: FBI Investigating Halliburton Contracts
10.29.2004, 07:26 AM

The FBI is investigating whether U.S. officials improperly awarded Vice President Dick Cheney's former company lucrative contract work without competition, a probe that was confirmed only days after a top Army contract officer raised the issue of favoritism.

The investigation expands an existing probe of whether Halliburton Co. overcharged for fuel deliveries in Iraq. The probe now includes the no-bid work awarded the company in Iraq, including restoration of the country's oil industry at a cost of $2.5 billion.

posted January 16, 2005 03:49 PM              

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Bush: 'We Found' Banned Weapons
President Cites Trailers in Iraq as Proof

By Mike Allen
Washington Post Staff Writer
Saturday, May 31, 2003; Page A01

KRAKOW, Poland, May 30 -- President Bush, citing two trailers that U.S. intelligence agencies have said were probably used as mobile biological weapons labs, said U.S. forces in Iraq have "found the weapons of mass destruction" that were the United States' primary justification for going to war.

Powell said that he "went out to the CIA, and I spent four days and four nights going over everything that they had as holdings."
"Where I put up the cartoons of those biological vans, we didn't just make them up one night," he said.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/wp-dyn?pagename=article&contentId=A60140-2003 May30¬Found=true

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hehe that sounded like jwhop

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Iraqi mobile labs nothing to do with germ warfare, report finds

Peter Beaumont, Antony Barnett and Gaby Hinsliff
Sunday June 15, 2003
The Observer

An official British investigation into two trailers found in northern Iraq has concluded they are not mobile germ warfare labs, as was claimed by Tony Blair and President George Bush, but were for the production of hydrogen to fill artillery balloons, as the Iraqis have continued to insist.

The revelation that the mobile labs were to produce hydrogen for artillery balloons will also cause discomfort for the British authorities because the Iraqi army's original system was sold to it by the British company, Marconi Command & Control.
http://observer.guardian.co.uk/international/story/0,6903,977853,00.html

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"when you post factually inaccurate information, you're getting the level of respect you deserve."-jwhop

posted January 21, 2005 06:32 PM              

PEOPLE WHO AREN'T AMERICAN SHOULD KEEP THERE MOUTHS SHUT

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