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pidaua
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posted September 27, 2006 02:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for pidaua     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Petron,

How could I ever ignore you? hee hee.. You seem to have been missing in action lately. How are things going?

~Pidaua

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pidaua
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posted September 27, 2006 05:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for pidaua     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Rainbow,

For the record I never called you this "a "drooling old decrepit,"

I called you a drooling old hag- that is different than decrepit. Now as far as your list. I am not sure what he would have been called, most likely a disgruntled former Soldier- Who knows what his issues are - all I know is that Joe Cortina is a bitter man. So, maybe I would have included him in the twit-club.

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posted September 27, 2006 06:18 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Pid carries on.....

quote:
Rainbow,
For the record I never called you this "a "drooling old decrepit,"


Pid.....WHY DO YOU CONTINUE THIS STUPID STUFF?????

I NEVER said you called me a "drooling old decrepit."

Did I say that? Where did I say that?

Why did you say that I said that?

Stop the lies!!!!!

.....and from the way your brain seems to be working lately, I'm more and more convinced that you are nothing more than just "a drooling hag!" yourself!

Who knows how old you really are....and it doesn't matter anyway, if your "oldish" of "youngish" because a hag is a hag is a hag!

....and you've proven more than once from your hateful, nasty, vicious posts here that you are a hag...

So - from one hag to another.....

"Welcome to the Hag Club sistah! "


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pidaua
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posted September 27, 2006 07:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for pidaua     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Rainbow~
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posted September 22, 2006 11:27 PM
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I have a scenario for you, knowflakes.....
Here it is~~~~~~~~~~~

Suppose Mr. Cortina were a member of LL, registered and posting on different forums here...

Then one day- because he is very upset with the way things are going, he posts (the exact same post of his, posted above) expressing the way he feels, and WHY he feels the way he does.

Would I be wrong in assuming that according to the "rules" of different knowflakes who post here....Cortina having given bush a good bashing.....is now entitled to received a bit of bashing himself from the knowflakes here because they didn't like the fact that he bashed bush!

...Cortina, a Republican who voted for George Bush twice......a veteran who trained combat troops.....and a Christian Patriot having to pay huge sums out of his own life savings for the medicine he needs.......can now be called such things as a "brain-dead moron,"

" a twit,"

a "terrorist supporter"

a "liar"

a "drooling old decrepit,"

a "commie"

- well, you get the picture.

Is that the rule of law here?

Can someone tell me if I'm right or wrong in my assumptions???

__________________________________


Every name you have listed is one that I have called you in the past. No one else, to my knowledge, has called ANYONE else "drooling old..." with the exception of me calling you that name.

You cannot hide behind word games because you made the insinuation, all the names were mine - you had been called "drooling old hag" Changing the word hag into decrepit does not get you out of the accusation.

No worries though.

I have owned up to calling you the names. I have stated the facts, but you are welcome to continue the rant. Whatever makes you happy.

PS....

So much for stopping the name calling. One thing you will notice though Rainbow is this; I did not call you a name and haven't for quite awhile. You're insistence on trying to goad me into a name calling fest is not going to work.

But once again, thank you for demonizing yourself and demonstrating your lack of restraint.

Rainbow~
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posted September 27, 2006 06:18 PM
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Pid.....WHY DO YOU CONTINUE THIS STUPID STUFF?????
I NEVER said you called me a "drooling old decrepit."

Did I say that? Where did I say that?

Why did you say that I said that?

Stop the lies!!!!!

.....and from the way your brain seems to be working lately, I'm more and more convinced that you are nothing more than just "a drooling hag!" yourself!

Who knows how old you really are....and it doesn't matter anyway, if your "oldish" of "youngish" because a hag is a hag is a hag!

....and you've proven more than once from your hateful, nasty, vicious posts here that you are a hag...

So - from one hag to another.....

"Welcome to the Hag Club sistah! "

___________________________

I would also love where you can point out how my recent posts have demonstrated how my brain is working or that it causes me to become a "drooling old hag".

I am sorry you cannot contain yourself, maybe you could see a therapist concerning the anger issues you have.

Once again.. good luck

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posted September 27, 2006 11:02 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Pid....here is another example of something "going completely over your head" to the point of making YOU look like you are the one lacking "comprehension skills." *sigh*

Mr. Cortina is obviously a male/man/masculine....(aka NOT female)

Okay?

When looking for a name that certain knowflakes might call him, I was almost CERTAIN that no one (not even you) would call him a drooling old hag, since a hag is always female, woman, feminine (aka NOT male)....

So the "closest" I could come to the male equivilent of "hag" was a decrepit (which could refer to either sex).....

THAT IS WHAT I WAS SAYING.....

......AND THAT IS WHAT YOU "DIDN'T GET."

If you read that post closely - once again....you'll find that I did NOT say you called me a "drooling old decrepit." *sigh*

For you to determine that I did - from that post, shows once again, your inability to - (for lack of a better word) comprehend?

*******

Oh yes.....another "conclusion jumped to" by Pid.....

quote:
Every name you have listed is one that I have called you in the past.

Hey thanks for taking the credit....but that statement is not quite true....

jwhop has been known to call me a commie and a terrorist supporter...ah not only me, but anybody else who dares to challenge bush, his cronies, and their policies....

If I were going to list every name that you called me, the list would have been a LOT longer, Pid...

Quit jumping to conclusions....quit your delusions...and/or quit your lying....

*****

and oh....this is funny....from Pid

quote:
One thing you will notice though Rainbow is this; I did not call you a name and haven't for quite awhile.

ah....how about "lunatic?" That was a pretty recent one....

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posted September 27, 2006 11:22 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Rainbow..what are you doing?

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jwhop
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posted September 27, 2006 11:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Well, we know for certain Joe Cortina is a leftist activist liar, lunatic and a racist...just for starters.

And those are such good openers we don't have to see his full hand to dismiss him and his bullsh*t.

Keith Olbermann is a delusional nitwit. Joe Cortina is certifiable. The two types you seem to hang with Rainbow.

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posted September 28, 2006 01:32 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I won't be so cruel as to name the types you like to hang with, jwhop....but I'll tell you this.....they ain't pretty!

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lotusheartone
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posted September 28, 2006 01:45 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
perhaps rudeness..is a vitamin deficienty of goodness

today. ...

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posted September 28, 2006 01:53 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
spellcheck..please. ...

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pidaua
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posted September 28, 2006 02:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for pidaua     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hmmm isn't it ironic that the person, Rainbow, that always cries foul is the person that is still ranting, raving, name calling, making nasty insinuations (regarding who jwhop hangs with)?

Joe Cortina has his right to speak out if wants to. We also have the right to label his speech vile, nasty, anti-American and conducive to being a lunatic.

I am secretely enjoying how most of us can stop the name-calling yet those that cried and whined are the one that continue to rant and rave. In retrospect I can now see that is was a small groups of us that felt compelled to sink to a level that some on this board could relate to and the complainers are the ones that still cannot speak in an intelligent and civil manner.

Hmmm.. funny.


****Edited to add

Once again Rainbow - I did not call you a lunatic I said you were acting like a lunatic in your posts. I know you desire me to sink to your level, but I will say it again, it's not going to happen. I have proved my point in past threads and you continue to prove the type of person you are by these posts.

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posted September 28, 2006 02:31 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
from the ever "observant" Pid....

quote:
Rainbow, that always cries foul is the person that is still ranting, raving, name calling, making nasty insinuations (regarding who jwhop hangs with)?

If you check the posts Mz Pid, you'll note that it was jwhop who first made comments about people whom "I hung with."

In case your memory is too short to recall, here it is....

quote:
Keith Olbermann is a delusional nitwit. Joe Cortina is certifiable. The two types you seem to hang with Rainbow.


Duh!

Your flawed reasoning is so limited, Pid...*sigh*

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pidaua
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posted September 28, 2006 03:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for pidaua     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
No Rainbow, I believe you misread the context of my sentance. I had a LIST of items, one being what you said to jwhop & what he had said to you. I am sorry that you are having issues with comprhension. Maybe someone could give you a hand?

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Pid....the point that I was trying to make to you, is that you chastised me for questioning who jwhop hung with....(duh!)...but seemed to overlook the fact that I questioned HIS choice of companions ONLY after her questioned mine.....

It's THAT SIMPLE....so don't try to make it complicated by referring to "lists" that aren't even relevent...DUH!

I'm sorry but it's YOU "who don't GET IT!"


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pidaua
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posted September 28, 2006 03:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for pidaua     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Again Rainbow, this conversation shouldn't take a trip down the old toliet bowl and I won't go there even if you keep trying to goad me. Many people have asked you to stop with the excuses. The nasty tone of your posts- specifically in this thread- are the result of your own choice. Stating it is jwhops fault for making you say something back to him is quite childish.


You can rehash that point ten million more times but it won't make it right.

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posted September 28, 2006 03:53 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Once again here is Pid's flawed reasoning...

quote:
. Stating it is jwhops fault for making you say something back to him is quite childish.


think of it as a "rebuttal" Pid....

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posted September 28, 2006 04:02 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ps....

Pid also says.....

quote:
Many people have asked you to stop with the excuses. The nasty tone of your posts- specifically in this thread-

What do you consider many, Pid?

You mean lotus? ..er maybe lioneye?...I don't think even she asked me to stop with the excuses....

Do you hear voices? or what?

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posted September 28, 2006 05:10 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
... way to 'support troops'.

Mr. Cortina is dealing with very similar issues as my dad,... also, a Vietnam vet. Worked on the very type of plane Bush operated, around the same years, here.
Also, now dealing with the VA, due to recently discovering he has diabetis.

He spent 27 years, with the highest clearence one can get, employed by DOE at, what I have always know as, 'Rocky Flats'.
He was one of the last 10 employees to get laid-off, when it completed it's clean up, and finally appeared to never have been anything other than acres of rolling pastures.
He was unable to collect the unemployment, due to what seemed to be a second round of taxes being applied to the monthly check, which left the actual payment to him severely depleted and, not a feasibly, liveable amount.
He took one year off, and it was his savings that paid the bills.

My dad loathes Clinton, as he is a 'draft dodger'. Infuriates him just thinking about that fact, sitting in the President of the United States position...

However, he has lost any faith in the current now, as well.
From what I was told about his first visit to the VA, this loss of faith goes way back, beyond those who served in Vietnam.
Apparently, there are quite a few very angry, and old vets... and, they made everyone aware of why they are so angry.

He does'nt want to hear ANYthing about
911,... in his words he's, "... tired of how much he watched and, heard when it happened."

In a phone conversation he and I had last week, he choked on the shame he, as a veteran harbors, now that his own voice is heard speaking of the fact, that he would make every effort to see that his own son 'dodge', should a draft ever be put into effect.

My dad loves his country. He loves it enough to have enlisted himself in a war he, to this day, has little understanding of why it even was.

Though I may not be the 'brightest in the box', here in GU... I can understand that it is the President, who is supposed to work for us... It would suck to have a boss posse! No doubt. Nonetheless, a volunteer is never hard to find and, we see always, the position of President filled.
I've always been of the understanding, that one will be very, hard pressed to please many, always. In my own opinion, government is the proof of that!

Whoever sits in the Presidential position, represents all those boss' in the posse...
or, that's what I was taught anyway...
'For the People, BY the People...'

For those many, young Souls who have and, continue to willingly give even their own life, to ensure the integrity of what America was hoped to promise, is always held as goal #1.... 'President' just does not compare. It seems to only reap the reward, the former actually earns... as does the boss posse.

'Support our Troops'.... maybe I have missed something....?

~ geminstone

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pidaua
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posted September 28, 2006 05:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for pidaua     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
This Cortina character indicates he has been on medication that makes him sick because the VA won't give him what he needs. He is wrong, the subsitutes are chemically identical to the name brands.

Why would he vote for Bush TWICE when we were already at war at the second go around? If he felt so strongly that Bush was a child murderer, wouldn't this keep him from voting for Bush a SECOND TIME?

His nasty letter and vitrol sounds similar to what I have read here by some of our own hostile leftests...

Makes me wonder....

BUT.. then I came across ANOTHER link with a letter this Mr. Cortina wrote to the Georgia NAMI because he did not want his psychotic son taking meds

"Thanks to you and scum like you, my innocent young son now lives in a drug
infested mind numbing hell. You hypocrite lying quack ******** are guilty
of the murders and suicides of countless young people. You have a LOT OF
INNOCENT BLOOD on your hands.

As God be my witness - if any tragedy befalls my child as a result of the
deadly drugs you criminals advise unsuspecting parents to force on their
children - I WILL spend my remaining life, fortune and energies to see that
you and all the criminals associated with your evil agenda of death and fear
and terror - will be be brought to justice - charged, tried and imprisoned
for your unconscionable crimes!

I WILL be there to testify against you. I will be your biggest nightmare. I
WILL wreak my vengence upon you or ANY person that seeks to destroy my
child. You have been advised!

Joe Cortina - father of a suicidal child - thanks to your ilk"

_______________________

He claims MANY people have INNOCENT blood on their hands now doesn't he?


But here is the worst part of it all..

This is his OTHER open letter to war criminals:


AN OPEN LETTER
TO AMERICAN WAR CRIMINALS AN OTHERS WHO SCREAM FOR THE BLOOD OF INNOCENT PEOPLE IN FOREIGN LANDS – AND – AT HOME

I am finally convinced that a huge percentage of the American people are the worst hypocrites imaginable – considering the fact that some 80% of us claim to be “Christians”. The AVAILABLE facts that our barbarian young sons have murdered many thousands of COMPLETELY innocent women and children in Iraq and ten times that many in Afghanistan tell me a great deal about our present day character. The number of innocents dying or dead from disease, starvation, suicide, and deformed mutated newborn ( thanks to our “safe” DU weapons) are now over SIX figures.

But – that’s OK – because these are Arab peoples and are only “animals” as we are taught by our criminal Zionist leadership – and as I was advised while in the Occupied Territories’ at GAZA in the Summer of 89. The Talmudic Jews call them ‘golem’ ( cattle), and our own ‘intellectually challenged’ people slander all of them with terms like “sand niggers” – “camel jockeys” – and “rag-heads”. The tens of millions of American evangelical ‘Judeo-Christians’ who have been weaned on the blasphemous Oxford University Press’s ‘New and Improved’ revised Schofield Bible don’t consider Arab/Muslim people worth being respected as fellow humans – and these ‘sub-humans’ are ALL considered to be “cursed” by God. But of course we are just doing “God’s will”.

I suggest that all this will – in the very near future - lead us into more and more pre-emptive serial wars. I believe that this madness will ignite consequences of unimaginable proportions and will ultimately lead us into a ‘dark age’ in America’s history the likes of which will eventually destroy ALL semblance of any goodness left in this country. A country that has endeared itself to me – in uniform and civilian life for over 60 years. As the venerable French philosopher, writer and statesman, Alexis De Tocqueville so ominously stated over 170 years ago: “ America is great because America is good, and when America ceases to be good, America will cease to be great”. Remember that - always.

So, - for those Americans who feel so arrogant and proud of the unspeakable horrors we have committed AND abetted in committing -- against these innocents – including Palestinian women and children – murdered by the thousands with equipment WE have supplied – and in the name of “just cause” – “honor” – “liberation” etc. - I have decided to do something different.

Instead of endlessly trying to make the “deaf” hear or the “blind” see – I will give you something to remember, a ‘tool’ which should ease you collective consciences – should you ever come to the future realization - that the Godless horrors you now so proudly boast about – just might in fact be a hypocritical abhorrence in the ‘eyes of God.

If the time for soul searching comes – and the nightmares of unspeakable horrors that YOU and your mindless cruelty made possible -creep into your peaceful sleep – just repeat this mantra, over and over and over again until you believe it.

REMEMBER – these dead, mutilate and dying people were NOT your enemies – they were CREATED ‘enemies’. Created by our press – our leaders – our willing cadre of psycho-monsters, and our own inane fears and ignorance.

HERE THEN, IS THE ‘BLUEPRINT’ WITH WHICH TO ‘CREATE’ AN ‘ENEMY’ – KILL HIM – TORTURE HIM – MUTILLATE HIM – STARVE HIM – IMPOVERISH HIM – HUMILLIATE HIM, AND NOT HAVE THE SLIGHTESS REMORSE FOR YOUR CONDUCT.

This 'tool' is the creation of the psychologist. An intense hatred for people who have done us no wrong - whom we have never met or seen and whose sufferings and burdens and culture we may know nothing about. Here then is how the twisted mind of these pseudo physicians have incited weaker minded people to do their depraved murderous tasks. THIS is how we turn our youth into cold-blooded murderers 'on demand'. The humans that our leaders wish to exterminate must first be 'dehumanized' - ESPECIALLY in the naeive, pliable empty minds of our youth..

Start with an ‘empty canvass’ – then sketch, in broad outline, the forms of the men, women and children.

Dip into the unconscious inkwell of your own disowned darkness, and with a WIDE brush – stain these strangers with the sinister hue of the shadow.

Trace onto the faces of ‘the enemy’, the greed, hatred, and cruelty – you dare NOT claim as your own.

Obscure the sweet individuality of each and every face – ESPECIALLY the children! Then erase all hints of the myriad of the loves, hopes, and fears that play through the kaleidoscope of every finite heart.

Twist the smile on every face – ESPECIALLY the children – until it forms the downward arc of cruelty. Strip the flesh from bones until only the abstract skeleton of death remains.

Exaggerate each feature until a man is metamorphisized into a beast – or vermin – or insect. Fill in the background with malignant figures from ancient nightmares – devils, demons, and other specters of evil.

When your icon of the enemy is complete, you will be able to KILL without GUILT – and SLAUGHTER without shame or conscience. The thing you destroy will have become merely ‘an enemy of God’ – an impediment to the sacred dialectic of history!

Envision this morbid panorama over and over until you are comfortable with it and rendered whatever conscience remains as childish and impotent. Then – in your mind-you will have made the truth into lies – evil into righteousness – horror into duty and feel at ease with having sold your soul to the devil. It worked in Afghanistan – it worked in Iraq and will work in every relatively defenseless country we allow the Jews to decide must be destroyed. It works every time – at home ( WACO) and abroad (IRAQ), but ONLY with a dull witted ignorant criminally irresponsible people..

Death will become a merciful escape for most of the poor peoples of any country we decide to destroy next . If we can find no more enemies to torment – be assured that Israel will identify them for us until their last enemy is murdered. THEN there will be only one last enemy – the Christians. The Jews murdered some 20,000,000 Christians in Lenin’s Marxist Russia. WACO was just a ‘test’. The forced removal of the Laws of God from Chief Justice Moore’s courthouse was just another ‘small’ test. You may be ASSURED – it WILL NOT end there.

THREE HUNDRED MILLION PEOPLE – most of whom profess to be ‘Christians’ – and essentially - NOBODY offered to protect the people burned alive or the sacred tablets. We will witness more and bolder actions against our own people and our most sacred traditions in the very near future. Not to worry – even if we run out of people around the world to destroy for our amusement - we will be provided with lots of “religious cults” to incinerate as “threats to society” and children to exterminate “for their own protection” right here at home.

And for those who begin to question these grizzly murders, there will always be and lots of ‘gladiators’ and ‘chariot races’ and other perversions in our ‘Coliseums’ around the country. There, of course, to keep our minds off of those ‘unpleasant’ issues like defending our Christian faith or defending our Constitution, teaching our children how to think for themselves, or even defending our OWN neighbors! Here then is the capacity for the average American to set the example of responsibility and maturity and ethics for the future of their country and of their children. This brainless mentality can best be summed up in my community – the Tampa Bay Area with just two words - the limits of our Republican horizon – GO BUCKS!.

Oh – BTW – I AM a registered Republican and a hawk to my friends – have been for decades – and am now not too proud of what we have become.

May God forgive you.

Joe Cortina

He is also an avid Anti-Semite..
http://www.currentissues.tv/Joe_Cortina.html

Well Rainbow, you SURE know how to pick them.

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posted September 28, 2006 05:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for pidaua     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yes GeminiStone.. you are missing something.

The Liberal Leftest Congress continually cuts aid to the Military and the VA. As long as we have those kinds of people in office, jamming up the raises for the men and women in the service and cutting Benefits for Veterans - they we will ALWAYS be missing something.

PS... I am almost SURE your father is nothing like the Hate filled, anti-semite Cortina.

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posted September 28, 2006 11:06 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
geminstone........

Sorry to hear about the shabby treatment your father, has been subjected to....

He certainly doesn't deserve it....

How sad!

A respected Vietnam Vet who served his country well....

.....and please tell him he should NOT feel "shame" for considering encouraging his son to dodge...should the draft ever come back....

My god....THAT'S PERFECTLY UNDERSTANDABLE!

Bless your dad....

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Pid.....

Thanks for the very interesting articles by Joe Cortina....


He's an excellent writer....with a lot of savvy!

I'd like to post the link.....

*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*

ISRAEL - MY EXPERIENCES THERE, IN THE SUMMER OF 1989

My name is Joe Cortina.

I am a retired Florida businessman who has done
substantial world traveling - some purely as a 'tourist' and some in areas - shall I say- 'having nothing to do with vacationing'.

I am a former special
operations officer and have done intelligence investigator work for over 15years - some of it overseas - mostly in Central America - but also in the Mid-East.

My political posture is ‘conservative’ and my religious values are Christian.

Exposing lies and revealing the truth was what I did professionally for a long time.

I have hunted REAL terrorists in jungles with Salvadorian Rangers
and Marines - so I am not a stranger to dangerous environments and am
familiar with basic protocols of civilized conduct regarding civilians and the military - something that the Israelis do not consider applicable to them.

For anyone wishing to challenge my credibility - I am willing to show credentials.

I have a flawless civic record, an honorable military record
and have never committed a crime nor ever been accused of such.

I am mentioned as my father's son in the registry - 'PIONEER FLORIDA.'

My grandfather was a pioneer in Florida in the most literal sense, and my
father was a respected businessman and foreign diplomat.


I was invited to Israel by a former military comrade who attained a substantial rank and subsequently ended up as the ranking military attache'
from our govt., to the Israeli military (IDF).

I went places and saw things
only a hand full of 'private sector' Americans will EVER experience.

My 'specially authorized' trips included Gaza City, Hebron and areas of
militarily protected Israeli 'settlements'.

I will touch on only a few of
what I considered the most revealing experiences.

I can't stress this
enough.

What I write here is but a tear in a sea of misery that I witnessed.

Treason to the United States:

While there I witnessed MANY signs and graffiti showing enthusiastic and
shameless support by Israelis for the convicted American traitor Jonathon
Pollard - a Jewish - Zionist Soviet spy.

Intelligence experts in America have termed Pollards treasonous acts second only to the Rosenbergs in the
level of betrayal and endangerment to every American man woman and child.

According to officials in Tel Aviv, Pollard was AND STILL IS considered a
hero - literally - to the Israelis.

So much for any notion of the Israeli 'love and concern' for American families.

Israeli destruction of civilian homes and businesses:

The road blocks as one neared Gaza strip became increasingly secure and
formidable.

The absence of any civilian traffic was conspicuous.

Once in either a suberb of Gaza or another city in the 'Strip' - I don't remember the
exact name - a ride down the main street looked like a scene from some WWII
movie.

Windows shattered, charred rubble and destroyed vehicles littered
the area. (I saw one still burning).

Then I noticed something a little strange.

There was no building with any floor above the first. ALL buildings had any
additional floors blasted into rubble - much of the jagged former construction black and charred.

This was a city street no much different from any American small town. Shops, restaurants, services, apartment etc. blown to bits and vacant as a tomb.


I learned quickly why the upper parts of the buildings (peoples homes and
businesses, incidentally) - were blown away. This was to reduce any cover
for potential snipers who might threaten Israeli patrols.

Kind of like the mentality and rationale if it had been your hometown - after being occupied by the Soviets or Chinese communists.

Just blow it all up!

It is of no consequence if these were homes and businesses of the Palestinians -- it
was occupied by the Israelis now!


Mockery of America:


At one of the many roadblocks - usually manned by a small IDF military unit,
we stopped our armored vehicle just long enough for the CIA to 'inspect' the
situation.

I got outside and overheard 2 of these young soldiers speaking.

Much to my surprise, they had Brooklyn accents! I asked them where they
were from, and they answered New York.

Apparently they had left the States to serve a foreign power -remember - these were American citizens (who just happened to be Jews).


Puzzled at this bizarre reply, I decided to give benefit of doubt and responded with something like: "Boy, you guys are really something - having served the military of your country (remember - they were AMERICAN citizens) and then investing your time in a 'feeling for duty' to Israel".

They answered proudly and without hesitation: " Oh no - we haven't served in the
United States military - there's no way."

So if there is any doubt where
their loyalties lie - consider their unabashed answer of mockery for the notion of serving America.


I can't think of ANY male American CITIZEN who would sneer at serving the
United States but willingly owed their loyalties to -say Italy, or Greece or
Ireland, or France or Germany - just because his ancestors were of that
ethnic group.

AND - if one such person voiced such an opinion - you can imagine what people would think of him.

But of course - apparently if you are Jewish - such odious and OPENLY PROUD mockery of love of this
country is acceptable conduct.

So much for American Jewish loyalty to America.


Israeli sanctioned creation of 'incidents':


I witnessed 'settlers' vehicles driving around and around the homeland of
the Palestinians (JUST LIKE YOUR HOMETOWN - NEVER FORGET THAT FACT!) whose purpose was only to taunt and humiliate the local inhabitants.

One of these cars had a sun roof through which protruded an Israeli flag (just like a Red
Chinese flag from a car driving around in your American 'occupied'
neighborhood)

- AND an M-16 automatic rifle to insure their torment of the helpless Palestinians was 'enforced.'

ANY resistance to the dreaded
'settlers!" and the UNITED STATES supplied - IDF rolls in and just blows
them away.

After all - remember - the Palestinians are considered no more than animals
to the Israelis. Do you see some sort of hypocrisy here?

Regarding the
horrendous brutality to the Palestinian civilians - more than one
conscientious Israeli journalist has concluded that "the Palestinians are
now the Jews - and the Israelis are now the NAZIS."

This is a COMMON
reference in Israel today.

Ever see that analogy in an American Newspaper,
magazine or TV presentation?

Ever wonder why not?


There are dozens of such stories involving brutality and inhumane treatment
of the Palestinians by the Israelis - which must be put in historic
perspective.

This is the ancestoral heritage and home of these Palestinians
for over TWELVE HUNDRED YEARS!

An entire MILENNIA longer
than the United States has been in existance! Just immagine a FOREIGN power
GIVING AWAY some 85% of the entire United States to an invading foreign
Colonizer!

This land has been the home for generations and generation of
Palestinians, and 'Israelis' are the intruders and occupying force here
-- NOT the other way around.

Cold-blooded murders, torture, shelling
of schools and hospitals, bulldozing of homes with civilians buried alive,
destruction of ambulances - and nearly every type of war crimes imaginable
including torture of eight out of ten Palestinians brought in for "questioning"!

Many of these incidents were shared with me - although several from
UNQUESTIONABLY reputable sources, I cannot PERSONALLY
attest to them - but what I have told the reader and will tell -
are incidents and conduct I witnessed FIRST HAND.

Brutality against children:


I will share one more incident - one I will not forget - which classically
characterized the Israeli attitude to people which they OPENLY refer to as
"animals."

While in another area of Gaza, we were following our IDF Para escort.

It was an open jeep with heavily armed Paratroops. Suddenly it screeched
to a halt not 10 yards in front of us and out jumped the men!

- one immediately dropped to one knee and took careful aim at his victim to our
immediate right.

The 'enemy' some 50 feet away - throwing egg size rocks at their tormentors.

Hardly sophisticated or dangerous - but there he stood - proud, defiant and fearless - a 10 year old child.

This was HIS neighborhood
and HIS country and HIS land -and he was a prisoner in this Israeli
'concentration camp' for "animals."
Think of it as a 'role change' for David and Goliath.

Children like this young lad, routinely 'disappear' in
occupied territories. They are just never seen or heard of again.

I have children
- and grandchildren whom I would defend with my life. I would like you to imagine
for just a moment that you are not an American - just close your eyes and visualize
-- finding your beloved 10 year old child with half his head blown away - the flies
feasting on his scattered brains. The unimaginable accident ? - NO - a war crime- and it is
YOUR child!

The 'sin' of your child?

He was throwing egg sized rocks at an Israeli tank
- BOUGHT and PAID FOR by AMERICAN citizens.

Could you just forget it as if
were only the family cat - or would you swear revenge/ justice against the monsters that
made it happen?

Could you possibly be so arrogant as to believe that this Palestinian
mother and father loved their child any less than you would - or that 'his' life is 'worth'
less in the eyes of God?


I had a Canon 35mm camera (official CIA issue at the time) and immediately
jumped out of our vehicle and zeroed in on the would-be murderer - not 10 paces in front of me.


Apparently he saw what I was doing and muttered something I couldn't hear -
as he withdrew back to his jeep. I never saw the child again and was
grateful that I had been able to save his life by my 'intimidation' with a
camera.

God only knows how many children that same jeep full of soldiers had
murdered before or after I was there. It is a common practice by the Israeli
govt. military to murder children for even the slightest provocation.

It is doubtful
that the young child in this incident ever saw another birthday. Just another nameless
dead "goy" - animal- to the Israelis.

These are the events that occur daily in the 'concentration camps' of the
Israelis - and MUCH MUCH worse! You will NEVER EVER see these horrors in
the 'news' and rarely if ever even hear of them. Virtually ALL of these
brutal activities are 'filtered' from the American public.

You are ONLY
ALLOWED to see what the 'entities' which control the media see fit for you
to see.

ONLY relatively recently - with the wider offerings of 'chat rooms'
'web sites' and other similar internet facilities, do we begin to gain
access to the truth without thousands of miles of travel - years of seasoned
intelligence experience or personal perils.


If you are disgusted with the mega-lies and misleading propaganda - educate
yourself as to what is REALLY going on in the world.

You will NOT find the
complete truth in the newspaper - or Time - or Newsweek - Or Rush - or our
Govt. - or TV or even our hypocrite evangelical pseudo-Christian church
'leaders'.

These daily atrocities committed by the Israelis AND funded by YOU and ME,
are carefully 'filtered' by our Israeli controlled press.

Despite the one-sided
propaganda, disinformation, distortions, and outright lies that we have been fed for years,
you may now find and know the truth. The REAL truth – as in “so help me God”

We Americans have been responsible for the deaths of WAY too many
innocent human beings throughout the world recently. Sooner or later - the
truth will come to light - as it always does.

Do YOU have innocent blood
'on your hands'?

ESPECIALLY encouraged by the blasphemous hatred sponsored by your supposedly ‘Christian’ church? A LOT of Americans do - and a 'higher' Judge WILL hold them accountable for these crimes against humanity - even if not in this life.

Keep your eternal soul. Keep you conscience clean. The truth IS available.
World War III is in the 'making' folks. The ‘model’ revelation for ‘Armageddon’ as described by Nostrodamus centuries ago, is now, at the beginning of the second millennium - becoming frighteningly clear. It is a no-brainer if you just open your eyes and your ears. There is still time.

Thank you for taking time to read this. I am willing to speak personally with any moral American who still possesses a conscience and must know the truth.

I may be contacted through whtt@cox.net

May God grant you the conscience to care about the good and the evil
May God grant you the wisdom to distinguish the good from the evil
May God grant you the courage to defend the good and expose the evil

May YOU open your eyes and your ears- AND your heart
so God may be able to grant you these priceless gifts.


Joe Cortina

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It looks to me as though Mr. Cortina has some pretty impressive "credentials" and has had quite a few years of experiences to validate some of the stuff of which he speaks....so while it is easy enough to call him an anti-semite (which he most probably is) - one should not be so quick to consider that it is not be without (what he considers) good reason.

It looks to me as though his "dislike" for Israelis is attributed to some of the things he actually experienced and saw with his own eyes, rather than him being just some guy who "hates the Jews" for the fun of it!

He has a lot of bitterness to be sure....but much of it appears to be for a lot of "covering up" that's going on, among many other things...

I'm glad that he's still able to ventilate....

Free speech....

That's what it's all about, huh?


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posted September 29, 2006 01:45 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
*scratches head*

Did somebody say "Liberal Leftist Congress" up there a few posts back?????????

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Most sane people who have functioning ears and eyes would agree Bush and company have the blood of ALOT of innocent people on their hands!...I also agree that Zionism (not to be mistaken for Judaism in its pure form) is part of the underlying problem.

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posted September 29, 2006 12:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for pidaua     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Rainbow said

"He's an excellent writer....with a lot of savvy!"


What an absolute sick statement. I can't say anything more as you have truly proven what kind of human being you are and that is sad. Endorsing a mentally deranged racist and calling him an excellent writer is enough to make even the most leftest liberal want to vomit.

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