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juniperb
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posted January 13, 2007 04:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for juniperb     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Seven minutes to midnight...

Sat Jan 13, 12:33 PM ET

CHICAGO (AFP) - The world is inching closer to nuclear Armageddon, a group of prominent scientists and security experts said.



The Bulletin of the Atomic Scientists has kept a Doomsday clock since 1947 as a reminder of the dangers of nuclear proliferation.

The clock will be moved forward Wednesday at simultaneous events in Washington and London whose speakers will include physicist Stephen Hawking, the Chicago-based periodical said in a statement.

The Bulletin warned that the world had entered a "Second Nuclear Age marked by grave threats."

(Whole article)
http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20070113/ts_afp/usnkoreairannuclear_070113170520

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posted January 13, 2007 05:05 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
If humanity could only step back and see the preciousness of their existance and growth, and acknowledge their remarkable evolution and the earths precious sustanence to sustain the beloved race, then things would be different.

A complete transformation of perception, thought, & action is needed for humanities survival, while there is a God; always was; and there always will be a God, as long as there exists persons with the capabilities to transform the human race then there won't be extinction, because thats a natural law of the earth, its inhabitants, and nature that is perceptively and instinctively more powerful than any scientific endeavor.

Keep Hope Alive.

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posted January 17, 2007 01:48 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
i'm surprised, doesn't anyone else care to speak about this 24/7 global issue?

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lotusheartone
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posted January 17, 2007 01:52 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Many of us are praying and meditating and sending positive energy, to balance

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posted January 17, 2007 02:02 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
good thing lotus, excellent!

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posted January 17, 2007 02:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dervish     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'm not sure how accurate the doomsday clock is. Actually, I kinda expect that we'll all be destroyed in some weapons test rather than a war. A war we might actually survive, though humanity would enter a new dark age in every way.

Anyone else heard or read about the Manhatten Project? There was the possibility (and bets) that a permanent sun would be generated and it would destroy all life in that state to the entire world. Still, the tests went on.

I wonder what happens when there are tests with microscopic nanites that self-replicate and attack humans? Or even a crafted virus? Or when some fusion weapon really does create a sun? Or some testing with an earthquake machine cracks the planet like a clay at a clay shoot? And the kicker is we might not even be aware of how the taxpayers funded our own destruction, and maybe don't get to realize anything is wrong at all before our entire world is destroyed.

But for what it's worth, I had this dream inspired, I think, by this Tao story. While a bit sad, it was also somehow hopeful to me, and maybe it will be to you, too:


As of November 9, 2004, I had recently read this Tao story:

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There was a farmer who found out his horse had gotten away and run off. His neighbor commiserated only to be told, "Who knows what's good or bad?"

It was true. The next day the horse returned, bringing with it a drove of wild horses it had befriended in its wanderings. The neighbor came over again, this time to congratulate the farmer on his windfall. He was met with the same observation: "Who knows what is good or bad?"

True this time too; the next day the farmer's son tried to mount one of the wild horses and fell off breaking his leg. Back came the neighbor, this time with more commiserations, only to encounter for the third time the same response, "Who knows what is good or bad?"

And once again the farmer's point was well taken, for the following day soldiers came by commandeering for the army and because of his injury, the son was not drafted.

Who knows what's good or bad?

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And apparently, I thought about this on a cosmic scale. In my dream I recorded on November 10, 2004, I was a member of an alien species. We were all pretty human in a way, only we weren’t (dream thing I guess). Our planet had colonized our system, but we stood to destroy each other with incredibly powerful weapons. We didn’t know if we’d ever make it beyond the star system, and now people were fighting to rule it all.

Then a craft came in. It revolutionized us. It was one of the two Voyagers that had been launched from Earth as a greeting to any who might it in the deep reaches of space. It was a godsend. It was made public before any agency could cover it up. It fueled the imaginations of many. There was life out there, and they had sent us an alien artifact!

Within 20 years, our entire system and species, inspired by this achievement, put aside differences and instead contested on who could make the best inventions, the best crafts that could visit this system.

Orators of all kind said that if a species could put aside its differences that it could send out messages into the void, we could do the same. Indeed, they must’ve known about us to have sent us this message. We heard bits of their bizarre lanuage, and their hauntingly beautiful music (once some of the damage had been cleaned up).

The technology was primitive, but it was but a subtle message: That we were squandering what technology we had.

Our species, revolutionized, the threat of war nearly gone, and we wanted to visit these Earthlings and thank them for helping us. We imagined they were benevolant and wise. And within a century, or two, it happened. We launched a craft that could travel using artificial warps.

Making it to the Sol system, we weren’t sure what to expect. We were a bit disconcerted when we saw little sign of any activity. Finally, making it to Earth, it finally became clear what had happened. Several doomsday devices had been employed. There was little left than a radioactive slag, and they had only reached a little ways into colonizing their system.

While we explored, this sad but beautiful darkwave song by Bella Morte (Funeral Night) played for me to hear, something I guess our sensors picked up somehow (but I'm not sure) that was like a requim for our [humanity] species:

with night fading fast
Warmth is but a memory of youth
As our day grows old
I can't bear to part
With so many things I hold so dear
But all things must fall
How well I know the grave

We must stand strong
And face our fears until the end
'Til the day when truth is found,
When at last we can rest

With night fading fast
Let us walk to keep the time away
My heart is so cold
I know what is right
What to do when all has passed away
Will you still stay strong?
Steadfast when will has gone?

As here we stand hand in hand
In this funeral night
Can't I see that we both will fall
Can't you see my dry tears
On this skin so cold
Even now the Reaper comes
Though you are here I am afraid
I am afraid, my love...


The news of the annihilation of the species that had saved ours caused us to collectively mourn them. Perhaps, it was theorized, that craft had been sent to us before the final, self-destroying wars were truly began, so that we would remember them.

And since they saved us from a similar fate, we always did. The Earthlings never knew of us, but we mourn them, and their bad example and last desperate act saved us from making the same mistake. We used our new crafts to find other worlds, to save them from the same fate. We had been transformed from a militant warrior race into an intergalactic mission of mercy, attempting to inspire other worlds to turn away from the path of self-destruction.

Many worlds came to owe Earth a debt of gratitude, and Venus and Mars were cleaned up and colonized by various species, and became a world for enemies to come and make their peace (as did multiple space stations). All these meetings included a tour of what Earth had become, a sight that would haunt many species and inspire them to turn away from relentless warfare.

The destruction of Earth's native sentients and life was incredibly tragic to look upon, especially given the irony of how they saved us from doing the same thing.

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As the person I am, I sometimes wonder if I didn't touch something in the far future and that I downloaded this dream as a result. But, if so, I can take comfort in being remembered and that many other worlds were saved as a result. This dream has made me more sensitive to the destruction of our species and our relentless warfare, but there is a bit of peace that comes contemplating this, too.

After all, who can say what is good or what is bad?

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lotusheartone
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posted January 17, 2007 02:20 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
wow! Dervish, that was amazing, thanks for sharing...

I think we have to face that there is other life and other universes..we
are but one arm from the center source

we have starborn friends...
who, are there and will help

if doomsday comes, I have dreamt this...

the human race will always go on, Forever,
Eternally...

there are other Earth's

Just as Linda Goodman spoke of the Planet Maldek, OOber Galaxy, in Gooberz..
MALDEK lexi's to MAKE DEAL

they came here, to Our Earth

and the deal was to save this race

we are all intergrated. ...

and all of actions, produce different probablilities, if we can
all awaken, to God Universe

undertake to do all with LOve
we can save this Planet

bring Peace on Earth

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posted January 18, 2007 01:51 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for BlueRoamer     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Dervish, have you seen the television show, Battlestar Galactica, on sci fi?

It's about a human like race that builds artificial intelligence, the intelligence evolved and nearly wipes out the human race. It has some parallels to what you've described.

Of course what you've described also parallels a lot of Asimov.

I often wish I'd been born into a time where space travel is common. Must be the sagittarius in me.

Regardless, you have a really rich imagination and I thank you for sharing!

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posted January 12, 2010 09:32 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for juniperb     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Doomsday Clock to Change This Week

livescience.com – Mon Jan 11, 7:40 pm ET

The minute hand of the famous Doomsday Clock is set to move this Thursday, and for the first time, anyone with Internet access can watch. Which way the hand will move and by how much have not been made public.


The event will take place at 10 a.m. EST (1500 GMT) on Jan. 14 at the New York Academy of Sciences Building in New York City. While the actual clock is housed at the Bulletin of Atomic Sciences offices in Chicago, Ill., a representation of the clock will be changed at Thursday's news conference. (You can watch the live Web feed at www.TurnBackTheClock.org.)

e last time the Doomsday Clock minute hand moved was in January 2007, when it was pushed forward by two minutes, from seven to five minutes before midnight. The change was meant to reflect two major sources of potential catastrophe that could bring us closer to "doomsday," according to the board of "The Bulletin of the Atomic Scientists," a magazine focused on warning the world of the dangers that the invention of the atomic bomb helped to unleash.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/livescience/20100112/sc_livescience/doomsdayclocktochangethisweek

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posted January 15, 2010 07:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

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posted February 19, 2010 12:46 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for leapinglemur14     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
that's one thing I hate about scientists...they always f*ck with nature instead of learning to understand how delicate it really is....
stupid politics! I say we overthrow all governments...they do nothing for the people anyway.

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posted February 19, 2010 04:26 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dervish     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Alpha: "We could end this quickly, if you'd only listen to my advice."

Obi-Wan: "We are not assassinating every surviving political leader on this planet."

--from this book:
http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Star_Wars_Republic_55:_The_Battle_of_Jabiim%2C_Part_1

I never read it, I just came across the quote and chased it down. It makes me laugh, and one day I should try to ILL it from the library.

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posted May 07, 2010 07:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

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"I have found a desire within myself that no experience in this world can satisfy; the most probable explanation is that I was made for another world." -C.S. Lewis

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posted January 31, 2011 09:44 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
*bump*

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posted May 02, 2011 10:50 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
*bump*

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posted May 04, 2011 08:39 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mblake81     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Edit

*Got mixed up while going back and forth at work, posted in the wrong thread. I moved it.

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posted May 05, 2011 11:24 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
What did that say?

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posted May 05, 2011 05:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for juniperb     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
he said "EDIT"

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posted January 11, 2012 07:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for juniperb     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
'Doomsday Clock' Ticks One Minute Toward Destruction January 10th, 2012

In a sign of pessimism about humanity's future, scientists today set the hands of the infamous "Doomsday Clock" forward one minute from two years ago.

"It is now five minutes to midnight," Bulletin of the Atomic Scientists (BAS) director Kennette Benedict announced today (Jan. 10) at a press conference in Washington, D.C.

That represents a symbolic step closer to doomsday, a change from the clock's previous mark of six minutes to midnight, set in January 2010.

The clock is a symbol of the threat of humanity's imminent destruction from nuclear or biological weapons, climate change and other human-caused disasters. In making their deliberations about how to update the clock's time, the Bulletin of the Atomic Scientists focused on the current state of nuclear arsenals around the globe, disastrous events such as the Fukushima nuclear meltdown, and biosecurity issues such as the creation of an airborne H5N1 flu strain.

The Doomsday Clock came into being in 1947 as a way for atomic scientists to warn the world of the dangers of nuclear weapons. That year, the Bulletin set the time at seven minutes to midnight, with midnight symbolizing humanity's destruction. By 1949, it was at three minutes to midnight as the relationship between the United States and the Soviet Union deteriorated. In 1953, after the first test of the hydrogen bomb, the doomsday clock ticked to two minutes until midnight. http://www.foxnews.com/scitech/2012/01/10/doomsday-clock-may-tick-toward-destruction/

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posted January 12, 2012 12:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I wonder why they think this?

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posted January 12, 2012 03:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for juniperb     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

here`s why

the Bulletin of the Atomic Scientists focused on the current state of nuclear arsenals around the globe, disastrous events such as the Fukushima nuclear meltdown, and biosecurity issues such as the creation of an airborne H5N1 flu strain.

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posted January 13, 2012 12:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It seems to me the danger is no longer present.

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posted January 26, 2012 01:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Maybe they are concerned about Iran?

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posted January 15, 2013 08:49 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for juniperb     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote


End Near? Doomsday Clock Holds at 5 'Til Midnight
By Live Science Staff | LiveScience.com – 1 hr 48 mins ago..

The hands of the infamous "Doomsday Clock" will remain firmly in their place at five minutes to midnight — symbolizing humans' destruction — for the year 2013, scientists announced today (Jan. 14).

The Doomsday Clock came into being in 1947 as a way for atomic scientists to warn the world of the dangers of nuclear weapons. That year, the Bulletin set the time at seven minutes to midnight, with midnight symbolizing humanity's destruction. By 1949, it was at three minutes to midnight as the relationship between the United States and the Soviet Union deteriorated. In 1953, after the first test of the hydrogen bomb, the doomsday clock ticked to two minutes until midnight.

The Bulletin was at its most optimistic in 1991, when the Cold War thawed and the United States and Russia began cutting their arsenals. That year, the clock was set at 17 minutes to midnight.

From then until 2010, however, it was a gradual creep back toward destruction, as hopes of total nuclear disarmament vanished and threats of nuclear terrorism and climate change reared their heads. In 2010, the Bulletin found some hope in arms reduction treaties and international climate talks and bumped the minute hand of the Doomsday Clock back to six minutes from midnight from its previous post at five to midnight. But by 2012, the clock was pushed forward another minute
... http://news.yahoo.com/end-near-doomsday-clock-holds-5-til-midnight-232147095.html

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