posted January 17, 2008 03:01 PM              

after a good night sleep, i feel much better.
yesterday i was in the heat of the argument but now i feel calmer and it's even more apparent who's taking the most pleasure out of this thread. juniperb and the like are delighted, so be it.
by creating this thread, i have contributed to their sense of usefulness. YEAH!!!!

after all are they not trying to persuade us that they are compassionate souls who feel for the underdog and want a fair treatment for everyone?

how good on them! they deserve a price.

before they reply and dig their own grave, i'd like to underline the fact that they are not reacting in a less DIVISIVE manner ( their mercy vs our harsh judgment) than you or me have been doing.

so i suggest they look at all their secret delusions about their fairness, and as you suggested, that they start to be truthful to themselves.

but something tells me they won't appreciate those points.

COME ON GUYS, KEEP POSTING, YEAH, WE'LL PROBABLY REACH THE 100 POSTS IN A COUPLE OF DAYS. COME ON....

obviously i keep an eye on this thread but i must inform jwhop that i forgot to read his post, oups!! shall i read it? hmmmm?

posted January 17, 2008 03:11 PM            

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which is just about every time, you resort to dragging others into the circle

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Here we see a statement that is clearly in opposition to the observable truth. I didn't start this thread, nor did I recruit anyone to this thread.

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For some, the consensus opinion is always right and they believe running around looking for those who agree with them bolsters their position.

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Hmmm...something like only reading conservative news, or listening to conservative talk radio, or posting conservative's articles when they align with your thinking? Is that the kind of thing you're talking about?

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Or...you could just connect the dots and find those who agree with acoustic...about anything and especially those whom he calls to his aid whenever he's getting his head held underwater in a debate.

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Have you noticed...everyone leaves me to it when I get involved in a debate. Also, have you noticed all these people who have come out on your behalf to try to bolster your position here? and the irony just gets thicker and thicker.

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One last thing acoustic. My comments to 26T were not about 26T but were rather all about paras.

26T is a real sweetheart and my most favorite Taurus.

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Great! You should follow that link and relive the magic by all means. It's not about whether you were speaking to Paras or not (where'd you get that notion?). She had a very clear message for you that's been echoed time and time again, and will continue to echo on for as long as you continue to act like yourself.

posted January 17, 2008 03:12 PM            

I think what you are really observing is NOT that people are discovering their "usefullness" but they are defending someone that is a member here. There are those that cannot stand honesty or a direct personality. I will take that, no matter their political affiliation, over vague and subversivness any day.

You have been here less than 6 months (which isn't bad at all) yet you have decided to start an inflammatory thread as though you know jwhop's complete posting style. Again, that makes me wonder about you.

Starting a thread telling someone to "shut up" isn't the proper way to get their attention. It starts a negative feeling right away and now you wonder why people are posting in defense of jwhop.

Like someone else said "At least one knows where they stand with him".

Global Unity is not just about everyone coming together and loving each other. It is about an exchange of ideas and knowledge. We may not always agree but for the most part we answer even our adversaries threads for help and advice.

posted January 17, 2008 03:21 PM            

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If you are me, and I am you, then when I, "made it perfectly clear," that I judge, I also made it perfectly clear that you judge...as we are the same and all. Judgment is inherent in all of our personalities...

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You said it: "inherent in all of our personalities"

One can and DO rise above the inherent in their personality and find balance. If you can`t or won`t please know that is , again, your limitation not mine I don`t carry others baggage.

Hmmm I have six planets in Air.Does that define me good or bad ?? Of course not nor does my making an observation lacking emotional judgement make me either one .

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posted January 17, 2008 03:32 PM              

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Every now and then we do get someone that demands we all get along and stop exchanging or defending our ideas or our Country.

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Sorry Pid, but if you are defending your country and I am defending mine and he is defending his and she is defending hers and they are defending theirs - then why name the forum Global Unity? Most n00bs (like I was once 5 years ago), sees the title of the board, and come inhere with a very positive mindset, only to get the shock of our life! Perhaps the forum would have had more meaning if it were named the Battle Zone.

posted January 17, 2008 03:47 PM              

No one here is being particularly honest.(Maybe SattvicMoon.)

Not JwHop, not A.G., not Leo Minor or heck, probably not even me. Juni and tink are only being marginally honest about Jw (although brutally honest about A.G.) Jw IS a bully sometimes. Whether it's intentional or not remains to be seen.

(Quick evidence of the politics flying would be the "pulling" of friends close while eschewing the "herd" instinct. Aaaagggghh we're all politicians!! This is such a side show..I'm so proud of you freaks! )

JwHop is Brother Sandpaper. Deal with it. Along with me he is one of those people that will help to refine your ability to deal with overbearing pompous jerks. He doesn't mean it..and not everyone gets to see that side of him...which is why some folks say that he doesn't have that side.

I've seen BOTH sides of JW. (Ok both of the sides being discussed. He probably has like 243.7 sides..or maybe just one big side.)

Now JW isn't any dummy..and he's definitely not the "bad" guy. (He's a dark spirit some days. I'll stand by that metaphor and wear it too.)

Some of the time, he knows what he's talking about..this big, brash personality. And God help you when those times arrive. He is flawlessly brilliant at such times.

He's also brilliantly obtuse when he has, (in Fixed Sign fashion) made up his mind on the bass-ackwards end of the scale.

I prefer to stand back and watch (occasionally jumping in or starting my own) on such occasions..and you know what I've noticed? He is as perfect or as imperfect as any one of us.

One of his MAJOR perfections is a brilliant wit (if he could get away from the adjective "moronic" while talking about other peoples' negativity.) He has a heart of gold and his friends know of his loyalty. Is he a jerk? He certainly can be..and usually is if you disagree with him. That seems to be the beef here.

But can't we all be jerks? (I've got medals.) And don't we all sort of..feel a little less friendly toward the folks that disagree with us sometimes? Jw doesn't do anything halfway. That includes being a jerk to people he disagrees with.

So there's your brother: JwHop.

Brother Sandpaper. Sitting there quite ready to show you what you look like when you indulge your intellect and your ego, over your heart and your goals. Go ahead. The day you can handle disagreeing with him, is a day you'll know that you've made major progress.

I love JwHop.

posted January 17, 2008 03:52 PM              

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daf

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posted January 17, 2008 04:11 PM            

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One can and DO rise above the inherent in their personality and find balance. If you can`t or won`t please know that is , again, your limitation not mine I don`t carry others baggage.

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posted January 17, 2008 04:19 PM              

Hmm...no one wants to be wrong here. I guess it's up to me. I'll be wrong first.

I AM WRONG!

There. Done. It's easy. Try it..they're only words.

Ok everybody alllll together now!

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posted January 17, 2008 04:37 PM            

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A.G. I JUDGE you as a person who enjoys word games.

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Well, I appreciate your ability to recognize that you have not transcended being judgmentmental and your honesty.

Mercury is my chart ruler and my Moon's ruler.

posted January 17, 2008 04:57 PM            

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The idea that you believe you've transcended being judgmental is incredible.

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I swear AG you are a hoot.

That statement is incredible and you attempting to convey that I said "I Trancended" is well, you ...

AG,the more you struggle and fight with your self-imposed limitations, the more your logic fails you... So, I`m going to let you go so you can believe you are the more logic,intellegent and GOOD person here. That is really whats important to you.

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posted January 17, 2008 05:33 PM            

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That statement is incredible and you attempting to convey that I said "I Trancended" is well, you ...

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How did you respond to my statement that all humans are judgmental?

"One can and DOes rise above the inherent in their personality."

You want to tell me what the implication is?

Remember Page 2?
[My response to Eleanore's statement about implications]

"They are exactly the same in my book, and I respond to both as if they were equal. I would be surprised to learn if I was the only one who did this. They are virtually 100% the same as far as I'm concerned." - AG/Me

posted January 17, 2008 05:59 PM            

No offense taken at all. I kind of like the term "Battle Zone"... or maybe Global Debate for Unity (and bloodshed?) I am being flip... I can just see some knowflakes saying "see.... Pid wants war"

posted January 17, 2008 07:02 PM            

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AG ~ she's right. I always said you were just like one of those adorable little puppies that thinks it's a rottwieler.

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posted January 17, 2008 07:34 PM            

I suppose I'm having fun with words again. Woohoo!

posted January 17, 2008 07:50 PM              

Interesting, yes?

posted January 17, 2008 08:12 PM            

Can I feel the love tonight?

I didn't hear dog. I heard exactly what you said, but my Uranus is connected with my Mercury opposite Saturn as well, so while my Saturn always wishes to bring every notion under scrutiny, Uranus has to be a pain in the @ss about it...hence "dog" and the word that is most often used to describe dogs.

Reality never leaves the picture, which is where I think you guys make your poor assumptions about me. It's not mere word play. It's deeper than that. There is something to what I'm saying at all times.
You obviously caught "loyal," so I can assume you also caught, "observations." It is --b!tchy on my part, but I do expect people to be able to articulate their explanation for what they believe.