posted September 01, 2008 03:20 PM            

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Just so everyone knows, statistically it's more likely that Palin is the mother of the Down Syndrome child as the likelihood of bearing a child with Down Syndrome increases with the age of the mother.

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From: http://www.marchofdimes.com/pnhec/4439_1214.asp

posted September 01, 2008 03:22 PM            

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a mix of Aquarian, Capricorn and Virgo energy

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posted September 01, 2008 04:35 PM            

One would think you would grow tired of getting your ass kicked here but you're a slow learner.

Let's see acoustic.

You said American citizens oppressed/repressed citizens of Iraq...when Saddam was murdering, torturing and raping them...while he was still in power there.

You said America was deficient for not packaging up a water treatment plant and shipping it to Iraq...to Saddam.

You said Bush is a murderer.

You said Bush hyped intelligence to take America to war.

You said Bush, Cheney or other administration pressured intelligence analysts to write analyst reports/intelligence reports favorable to the Bush position that Saddam was a threat to the United States.

The one theme running through all this is that you got your ass kicked here on each and every one of your lying bullshiit accusations.

posted September 01, 2008 04:58 PM            

You're spouting the very same drivel coming off the sites I mentioned.

They may have expanded their bullshiit storm by now but the article I posted speaks directly to the very same points you attempted to make. But then, you are ever in pursuit of the extremist viewpoint.

What's funny about this is that all the morons spouting this drivel about Palin are actually harming their own candidate; they just aren't smart enough to figure that out.

Carry on.

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You should be a hell of a lot more concerned about what they're saying here.
http://www.hillaryclintonforum.net/discussion/forumdisplay.php?s=c991911 49e63cb59845af03413522612&f=84

This is a site of Hillary Clinton women and they're not happy with the attacks against Palin...or her daughter.

What leftists fail to note is that abortion is not the only feminist issue in the book. Further, women have a tendency to get cranky, angry, pi$$ed when lying attacks are launched against other women. Women have a far greater sense of fair play than the juvenile morons posting at leftist blog sites.

posted September 01, 2008 05:31 PM            

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You're spouting the very same drivel coming off the sites I mentioned.

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Once again, prove it. Why does it always come down to this: You making a statement that you can't back up, and me asking you to undertake what should be the simple task of proving what you're saying? You take no accountability for the stuff that you assert.

That people see what I see is neither my fault nor their fault. Perhaps, because you're such a fan of blogs you assume that everyone else must be as well, but the truth is the opposite. I almost never go to those sites. Today I did, because of what you said, but I visit your links to your blogs far more often then I even think to look at a Democratic blog.
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Nice plug for the Hillary forum once again.
I read there when you first brought them up that they were mentioned on Hannity's show, so it makes sense that you would be familiar with them.

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Further, women have a tendency to get cranky, angry, pi$$ed when lying attacks are launched against other women

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posted September 01, 2008 05:41 PM            

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Further, women have a tendency to get cranky, angry, pi$$ed when lying attacks are launched against other women

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posted September 01, 2008 06:43 PM            

I doubt that among the greater percentage of American women, your views are close to mainstream.

My opinion is based on direct observation...as well as the roiling rage going on right now over the lies being told about Palin...and the reaction of women to those lies.

It doesn't help that the misogynists at the DNC robbed Hillary of the nomination.

BTW, the title of is this thread is an outright lie. How odd to see the so called purveyors of love and light defending the lying premise(s).

acoustic, your views are extremist...as I've proved here over and over.

I've already posted the extremist misogynist views you've posted and supported here...and those statements and concepts come from the sites I cited...some of the most radical leftist sites on the Internet.

As for what you see acoustic. You can't see what's not there. In case after case, the trash you've posted has been proved false and without foundation.

That Hillary site may have been mentioned on Hannity. I wouldn't know but what I do know is that Hannity isn't driving the opinions of O'Bomber and the DNC held by the women on that site.

What you seem incapable of understanding is that there are millions of women who don't like the way Hillary was jobbed and they don't all post on the Internet.

Palin and her life story appeals to a broad spectrum of Americans, both women and men. You leftists run the risk of driving voters directly away from O'Bomber who might otherwise vote for him...by these incessant lying attacks on a woman they can identify with.

As I said, carry on. In fact, be sure to spread the trash to other sites where other women can see it too.

posted September 01, 2008 06:48 PM            

ROTFL

posted September 01, 2008 06:55 PM            

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Too bad Azalaksh.
I doubt that among the greater percentage of American women, your views are close to mainstream.

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Perhaps Perhaps not
I bet I'm more "mainstream" than you are, jwhop

PS: Thank you for your patronizing pity

posted September 01, 2008 07:40 PM            

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I've already posted the extremist misogynist views you've posted and supported here...and those statements and concepts come from the sites I cited...some of the most radical leftist sites on the Internet.

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Hmmm... my views aren't derived from any semblance of misogyny. I'm not the one using Palin for her gender. My views are derived from myself, and mothers I've been exposed to not the least of which is my Republican and Leo mom.

Beyond that, I don't see where you've quoted any Democratic site that puts forth any opinion I've had on the subject of Palin.

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As for what you see acoustic. You can't see what's not there.

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As in any semblance of an argument coming from you?

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What you seem incapable of understanding is that there are millions of women who don't like the way Hillary was jobbed and they don't all post on the Internet.

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What I DO seem to realize is that even at your pro-Hillary site there seems to be more Republicans than Democrats. What I also seem to realize is that millions of Hillary supporters have gotten behind Obama seemingly unbeknownst to you.

I also realize that you are not now, nor have you ever been a supporter of Hillary Clinton. You jump on that bandwagon because it's politically expedient, and because that's what your media leaders tell you to do. There's no legitimacy behind you whatsoever.

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You leftists run the risk of driving voters directly away from O'Bomber who might otherwise vote for him...by these incessant lying attacks on a woman they can identify with.

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posted September 01, 2008 08:10 PM            

I'm not the only one who noticed your misogamist attitudes concerning Sarah Palin..including the one that she should just forget about the VP slot, go back to Alaska and raise her new baby.

Also your insistence that Palin isn't qualified, having been only a Governor and a Mayor but O'Bomber with absolutely no executive experience whatsoever..is qualified.

The vast overwhelming majority of women on that Hillary site are democrats. Hillary IS a democrat..not a Republican.

I do not like Hillary's politics and some other things I know about Hillary...true.
But, I also don't like the way the press, the DNC and the O'Bomber campaign treated Hillary. Political elections are supposed to be aboveboard, free and open and the party committees are not supposed to take sides...neither is the press. The people are to choose their candidates. The DNC intervened with a cockeyed formula including super delegates to take the decision out of the people's hands. Hillary is a far better candidate for President than O'Bomber but she got robbed of the nomination.

There is a difference between having an argument in hand and having both hands full of bullshiit. In your case, let me suggest you wash your hands.

Only an extremist would say the US oppressed the Iraqi people while Saddam was in the process of murdering about a million Iraqi civilians. That's you acoustic.

Only an extremist would say Bush is a murderer. That's you acoustic.

Only an extremist would say the American people/government owed Saddam a water treatment plant. That's you acoustic.

In fact acoustic, I seldom see such extremism coming off the far leftist kook sites as you've spouted here.

posted September 01, 2008 08:35 PM            

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Zala, you're posting your non mainstream views right here and I'm not displaying any pity...patronizing or otherwise.

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I love BR, but I don’t necessarily agree with the title of his thread It was just the most active thread today when I signed on. Is it your opinion that if I’m not with YOU then I must be with BR??

I was discussing Gov. Palin this morning with a friend and she was speculating that Mrs. Palin’s daughter had already had one child out of wedlock (the one that Mrs. Palin “had” suddenly in May) and was now pregnant with a second. My friend leans Republican, but was not happy about this possible subterfuge. Granted, lying is an attribute of politicians on BOTH sides of the aisle. But just because it’s pervasive doesn’t mean I approve of it.....

posted September 01, 2008 09:23 PM            

Jeez thats exactly what I call "lying thru your teeth", Blue Roamer.

posted September 01, 2008 10:00 PM            

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The lies told about Palin and her daughter are legion...and some are here on this forum.

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Annnnnndddd....that's why you've found one to post? Nope. What's up, Jwhop. Surely you can provide something.

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I'm not the only one who noticed your misogamist attitudes concerning Sarah Palin..including the one that she should just forget about the VP slot, go back to Alaska and raise her new baby.

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A misogynist is one who hates women. We all know I don't fit that bill. Throwing around "misogynist" and "sexist" isn't going to make it true.

Is it misogynistic to believe that a mother should be available to take her baby to the hospital if an issue comes up? No, it's not.

Is is misogynistic to believe that the Vice President should be able to focus all of his or her attention to the Presidency if the President should die? No, it isn't.

Is it misogynistic to believe a person's first devotion should be to their family? No, it isn't.

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Also your insistence that Palin isn't qualified, having been only a Governor and a Mayor but O'Bomber with absolutely no executive experience whatsoever..is qualified.

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Palin isn't qualified. Experience as mayor of a town with less than 10,000 people doesn't require a whole lot. Anyone with a bachelor in journalism could do it, but they probably wouldn't need the degree. Twenty months experience as governor is less than two years (your colleagues keep trying to push the two years figure: a blatant misrepresentation) experience. As I pointed out in the other thread, the month after she became governor people were announcing their candidacy for President this year. That's how short a time she's been in office.

Now, if you want to compare her resume to Obama's, I would be happy to look at it, and I would be happy for everyone else to look at it, too.

posted September 01, 2008 10:03 PM            

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The vast overwhelming majority of women on that Hillary site are democrats. Hillary IS a democrat..not a Republican.

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So you're saying you're over there enough to KNOW that the vast majority of people on that site are Democrats?

All I saw over there were people bashing Obama. Of the public figures brought up, the two that stand out are Rush [Limbaugh], and [Sean] Hannity. The thread that references Rush was conveying some piece of information they just heard on "Rush". Do Hillary Democrats listen to Rush? No, they don't.
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As to your favorite list of my supposed blunders (blunders in your mind only), in each case my position was quite clear, rational, and reasonable. Who do you think you're telling this to, by the way? You think you could possibly tear me down? Do you think YOU have any means whatsoever of attacking my integrity? Don't fool yourself.

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In fact acoustic, I seldom see such extremism coming off the far leftist kook sites as you've spouted here.

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And yet, you still -after repeated requests- have not come up with a single one. Imagine that!

Personally, I can't imagine posting the words of an extremist like Ann Coulter anywhere. You can, though, and you do. The extremist is that guy in the mirror. Self-awareness is a virtue.

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Zala, you're posting your non mainstream views right here and I'm not displaying any pity...patronizing or otherwise.

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Yes, please stop with the empty comments, and bring something [anything!] of substance.

posted September 01, 2008 10:57 PM            

Your real problem with Palin is that Palin is going to get O'Bomber defeated in November. Palin is a strong woman those in flyover country will and already are identifying with...those whom O'Bomber insults calling them bitter, clinging to their guns and religion. The standard moronic view of Marxist elitists but O'Bomber needs to win Ohio, needs to win Pennsylvania, needs to win Florida, needs to win North Carolina, needs to win Virginia to have any chance and he's not going to win any of those states. O'Bomber was finished the day Palin was announced and he knows he's finished. So do his supporters and that's the reason for the trashing of Palin. It's not going to work.

O'Bomber needs to go back to Illinois, forget about running for President
and take care of his daughters.

Your comments were directed at a woman. You should have listened to McCain when he said.."nobody tells Governor Palin to sit down". Of course, you and the other gutless wonders wouldn't dare tell her she should forget about being VP, go back to Alaska and take care of her baby...you wouldn't dare say that to her face. The legion of faceless, anonymous leftist weasels.

posted September 01, 2008 11:36 PM            

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Your real problem with Palin is that Palin is going to get O'Bomber defeated in November.

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Oh, that's a good one!

Friday she's the savior of McCain's campaign, and Monday herself, her family, her credentials, and her ethics are all the subject of news exploration.

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Of course, you and the other gutless wonders wouldn't dare tell her she should forget about being VP, go back to Alaska and take care of her baby...you wouldn't dare say that to her face.

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Of course I wouldn't frame it that way, but you can bet your @ss I'd have multiple questions for this woman, and I'd want as wide an audience as possible for hearing the answers.

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The title of this thread...which you seem so fond of is itself a lie, two lies in fact.

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I haven't made any mention of the title of this thread, but frankly the title seems right out of the Jwhop handbook.

posted September 01, 2008 11:40 PM            

Nevertheless, I hope you and the others...those on the sites from which you get your bullshiit continue to trash Palin.