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Heart--Shaped Cross
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posted May 03, 2008 12:44 PM
  
"Sometimes it gets to be too much."~ 26Taurus IP: Logged |
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posted May 03, 2008 01:20 PM
oh good. I can see the posts here today.I'm thinking of making one of the ones I posted my new signature.....hmm..... IP: Logged |
Heart--Shaped Cross
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posted May 04, 2008 04:01 AM
"In the words in which he expressed his relationship to Schopenhauer, I would like to describe my relationship to Nietzsche: "I belong to those readers of Nietzsche who, after they have read the first page, know with certainty that they will read all pages, and listen to every word he has said. My confidence in him was there immediately... I understood him as if he had written just for me, in order to express all that I would say intelligibly but immediately and foolishly." One can speak thus and yet be far from acknowledging oneself as a "believer" in Nietzsche's world conception. But Nietzsche himself could not have been further from wishing to have such "believers." Did he not put into Zarathustra's mouth these words: "You say you believe in Zarathustra, but of what account is Zarathustra? You are my believer, but of what account are all believers? "You have not searched for yourself as yet; there you found me. Thus do all believers, but, for that reason, there is so little in all believing. "Now I advise you to forsake me, and find yourselves; and only when you have denied me will I return to you." Nietzsche is no Messianic founder of a religion; therefore he can wish for friends who support his opinion,
but he can not wish for confessors to his teaching, who give up their own selves to find his."
~ Rudolf Steiner, Friedrich Nietzsche: A Fighter for Freedom
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posted May 04, 2008 04:07 AM
"The patriotic feelings of his German compatriots are also repugnant to Nietzsche's instincts. He cannot make his feelings and his thinking dependent upon the circles of the people amid whom he was born and reared, nor upon the age in which he lives. "It is so small-townish," he says in his Schopenhauer als Erzieher (Schopenhauer as an Educator) to make oneself duty-bound to opinions which no longer bind one a few hundred miles away. Orient and Occident are strokes of chalk which someone draws before our eyes to make fools of our timidity. I will make the attempt to come to freedom, the young soul says to itself; and then should it be hindered because accidentally two nations hate and fight each other, or because an ocean lies between two parts of the earth, or because there a religion is taught which did not exist a few thousand years previously?" The soul experiences of the Germans during the War of 1870 found so little echo in his soul that "while the thunder of battle passed from Wörth over Europe," he sat in a small corner of the Alps, "brooding and puzzled, consequently most grieved, and at the same time not grieved," and wrote down his thoughts about the Greeks."
~ Rudolf Steiner, Friedrich Nietzsche: A Fighter for Freedom
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posted May 05, 2008 11:48 AM
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posted May 05, 2008 12:21 PM
"...And, a few weeks later, as he found himself “under the walls of Metz,” he still was not freed from the questions which he had concerning the life and art of the Greeks. (See Versuch einer Selbstkritik, Attempt at a Self-Critique, in the 2nd edition of his Geburt der Tragödie, Birth of Tragedy.) When the war came to an end, he entered so little enthusiasm of his German contemporaries over the decisive victory that in the year 1873 in his writing about David Strauss he spoke about “the bad and dangerous consequences” of the victorious struggle. He even represented it as insanity that German culture should have been victorious in this struggle, and he described this insanity as dangerous because if it should become dominant within the German nation, the danger would exist of transforming the victory into complete defeat; a defeat, yes, an extirpation of the German spirit in favor of “the German realm.” This was Nietzsche's attitude at a time when the whole of Europe was filled with national fanaticism. It is the thinking of a personality not in harmony with his time, of a fighter against his time. Much more could be added to what has been said to show that Nietzsche's life of feeling and reflection was completely different from that of his contemporaries."
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posted May 05, 2008 12:23 PM
"In Nietzsche's personality are found instincts which are contrary to the complete gamut of the ideas of his contemporaries. With instinctive aversion he rejects most of the important cultural ideas of those amid whom he developed himself and, indeed, not as one rejects an assertion in which one has discovered a logical contradiction, but rather as one turns away from a color which causes pain to the eye. The aversion starts from the immediate feeling to begin with, conscious thinking does not come into consideration at all. What other people feel when such thoughts as guilt, conscience, sin, life beyond, ideal happiness, fatherland, pass through their heads, works unpleasantly upon Nietzsche. The instinctive manner of rejection of these ideas also differentiates Nietzsche from the so-called “free thinkers” of the present. The latter know all the intellectual objections to “the old illusionary ideas,” but how rarely is one found who can say that his instincts no longer depend upon them! It is precisely the instincts which play bad tricks upon the free thinkers of the present time. The thinking takes on a character independent of the inherited ideas, but the instincts cannot adapt themselves to the changed character of the intellect. These “free thinkers” put just any belief of modern science in place of an old idea, but they speak about it in such a way that one realizes that the intellect goes another way from that of the instincts. The intellect searches in matter, in power, in the laws of nature, for the origin of phenomena; but the instincts misguide so that one has the same feeling toward this being that others have toward their personal God. Intellects of this type defend themselves against the accusation of the denial of God, but they do not do this because their world conception leads them to something which is in harmony with any form of God, but rather because from their forefathers they have inherited the tendency to feel an instinctive shudder at the expression, “the denial of God.” Great natural scientists emphasize that they do not wish to banish such ideas as God and immortality, but rather that they wish to transform them, in the sense of modern science. Their instincts simply have remained behind their intellect.A large number of these “free spirits” are of the opinion that the will of man is unfree. They say that under certain circumstances man must behave as his character and the conditions working upon him force him to act. But if we look at the opponents of the theory of “free will,” we shall find that the instincts of these “free spirits” turn away from a doer of an “evil” deed with exactly the same aversion as do the instincts of those who represent the opinion that according to its desires the “free will” could turn itself toward good or toward evil. The contradiction between intellect and instinct is the mark of our “modern spirits.” Within the most liberal thinkers of the present age the implanted instincts of Christian orthodoxy also still live. Exactly opposite instincts are active in Nietzsche's nature. He does not need first to reflect whether there are reasons against the acceptance of a personal world leader. His instinct is too proud to bow before such a one; for this reason he rejects such a representation. He says in his Zarathustra, “But that I may reveal to you my heart, to you, my friends: if there were Gods, how could I stand it not to be a God! Therefore, there are no Gods.” Nothing in his inner being compels him to accuse either himself or another as “guilty” of a committed action. To consider such a “guilty” action as unseemly, he needs no theory of “free” or “unfree” will." -Rudolf Steiner Friedrich Nietzsche, Fighter for Freedom IP: Logged |
Heart--Shaped Cross
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posted May 07, 2008 06:29 PM
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posted May 07, 2008 06:30 PM
"The psychedelics are a red-hot social issue, ethical issue, whatever the term for it is. And it is precisely because they are deconditioning agents. They will cast doubt in you if you're a Hasidic Rabbi, a Marxist Anthropologist, or an altar boy. Their business is to dissolve belief systems, and they do this very well. And then they leave you with the raw datum of experience. What William James called, in talking of infants, 'a blooming, buzzing confusion'; the raw datum of experience. And, out of that, you reconstruct the world. And you need to understand that it is a dialogue where your decisions, the projection of your grammar onto the intellectual space in front of you, is going to gel into a mode of being. We actually all create our own universe because we are all operating with our own private languages, which are only very crudely translatable into any other person's language." "We have to claim anarchy. And realize that systems have a life of their own that is anti-humanist. There is definitely an anti-humanist tendency in all systems. Luwig Bertalanffy, who was the inventor of general systems theory, said, 'People are not machines, but in every situation where they are given the choice, they will behave like machines,'. We all fall into patterns. We all then hold those patterns ever more tightly, they cannot be violated. And this happens on the thought level. And we are on the cresting wave of a historical wave of this uptightness that stretches back millenium. And I think that we have now come to the end of this phase."
~ Terence McKenna
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Heart--Shaped Cross
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posted May 08, 2008 09:53 PM
"Every artist needs a nemesis." ~ ?
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posted May 08, 2008 10:16 PM
In wise discourse, there is often no progress before the eleventh hour. But there is progress.IP: Logged |
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posted May 20, 2008 03:12 PM
"The man who views the world at 50 the same as he did at 20 has wasted 30 years of his life."
-- Muhammad Ali
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"This world we live in is but thickened light."
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Heart--Shaped Cross
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posted May 20, 2008 11:01 PM
The Genius Of The Crowd
There is enough treachery, hatred violence absurdity in the average human being to supply any given army on any given day and the best at murder are those who preach against it and the best at hate are those who preach love and the best at war finally are those who preach peace
those who preach god, need god... those who preach peace do not have peace... those who preach peace do not have love beware the preachers, beware the knowers, beware those who are always reading books, beware those who either detest poverty or are proud of it... beware those quick to praise for they need praise in return... beware those who are quick to censor, they are afraid of what they do not know... beware those who seek constant crowds for they are nothing alone... beware the average man, the average woman, beware their love, their love is average, seeks average but there is genius in their hatred, there is enough genius in their hatred to kill you, to kill anybody... not wanting solitude... not understanding solitude... they will attempt to destroy anything that differs from their own. Not being able to create art, they will not understand art, they will consider their failure as creators only as a failure of the world, not being able to love fully they will believe your love incomplete, and then they will hate you, and their hatred will be perfect like a shining diamond, like a knife, like a mountain, like a tiger, like hemlock their finest art
--Charles Bukowski (1920-1994)
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posted May 20, 2008 11:08 PM
"If we greatly transform ourselves, those friends of ours who have not been transformed become ghosts of our past:
their voice comes to us like the voice of a shade [in a frightfully spectral manner] -- as though we were hearing oneself, only younger, more severe, less mature."
~ Nietzsche
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posted May 22, 2008 10:49 AM
Great one. ------------------
"This world we live in is but thickened light."
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Heart--Shaped Cross
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posted May 22, 2008 07:00 PM
Thanks.  I thought you'd like that one.  I suspect there's something for everybody in that quote. Aren't we all tranforming in our own ways, and leaving one another behind? One man's innocence is another man's experience, so to speak. One man's wisdom is another man's folly. Really, its about finding yourself. May you find what you seek. And may you seek what you find.
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posted May 22, 2008 07:00 PM
"What happens in practice is that if you look at all the dogmas in all cultures, all societies have what I call a 'hassle-free zone.' It is that area within any culture, within each dogma (religious, economic, political etc) wherein if you conform to it, you are in the comfort zone. No one's going to laugh at you, condemn you for being different, or for expressing your uniqueness, because you are locked into the herd mentality, and you are conforming to what you are told you should be and do. When you step out of this mind-set and express your unique aspect of all that exists and refuse to be frightened, or controlled, you immediately face ridicule or condemnation as I have in England." ~ David Icke IP: Logged |
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posted May 26, 2008 11:05 AM
"Love is the triumph of imagination over intelligence."
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posted May 26, 2008 11:09 AM
"It's not what happens to you, but how you react to it that matters."
- Epictetus
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posted May 26, 2008 12:40 PM
"What makes it hard is not that you had it bad, but that you're that pi$$sed that so many others had it good".~Jack Nicholson, As Good As It Gets
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posted May 30, 2008 07:55 PM
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posted June 01, 2008 12:37 AM
You come to the master only in deep humbleness, because learning is possible only in humbleness. You have come to surrender, not to perform, not to manipulate, not to impress.Osho IP: Logged |
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posted June 01, 2008 12:40 AM
By and by, sexuality has become confined to the genitals; it has become local; it is no longer total. Local genitality is ugly because at the most it can give you a relief.Osho - Zen
The Path of Paradox just flipping through this old book here, picking out some good quotes.  IP: Logged |
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posted June 01, 2008 12:43 AM
Existence is in contiuous celebration,
except man.
Existence is a carnival, an orgy of joy,
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posted June 01, 2008 12:48 AM
Dont seek God. Dont seek truth. Rather, create the situation of unfocusedness and God comes to you. It is there.IP: Logged | |
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