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Heart--Shaped Cross
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posted September 20, 2008 02:46 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Heart--Shaped Cross     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
A tremendous number of people in America work very hard at something that bores them.
Even a rich man thinks he has to go down to the office everyday.
Not because he likes it but because he can't think of anything else to do.

~ W. H. Auden

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posted September 20, 2008 02:52 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Heart--Shaped Cross     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Art is born of humiliation. ~ W. H. Auden

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posted September 20, 2008 02:56 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Heart--Shaped Cross     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Choice of attention - to pay attention to this and ignore that - is to the inner life what choice of action is to the outer.
In both cases, a man is responsible for his choice and must accept the consequences, whatever they may be.

It takes little talent to see clearly what lies under one's nose, a good deal of it to know in which direction to point that organ.


~ W. H. Auden

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posted September 20, 2008 04:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MysticMelody     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
"A good laugh makes any interview, or any conversation, so much better."
~ Barbara Walters

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posted September 21, 2008 06:54 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Heart--Shaped Cross     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
For the skeptic, having set out to philosophize with the object of passing judgement on the sense-impressions and ascertaining which of them are true and which false, so as to attain quietude thereby, found himself involved in contradictions of equal weight, and being unable to decide between them suspended judgement; and as he was thus in suspense there followed, as it happened, the state of quietude in respect of matters of opinion. For the man who opines that anything is by nature good or bad is forever being disquieted: when he is without the things which he deems good he believes himself to be tormented by things naturally bad and he pursues after the things which are, as he thinks, good; which when he as obtained he keeps falling into still more perturbations because of his irrational and immoderate elation, and in his dread of a change of fortune he uses every endeavor to avoid losing the things which he deems good. On the other hand, the man who determines nothing as to what is naturally good or bad neither shuns nor pursues anything eagerly; and, in consequence, he is unperturbed.

The Skeptic, in fact, had the same experience which is said to have befallen the painter, Apelles. Once, they say, when he was painting a horse and wished to represent in the painting the horse's foam, he was so unsuccessful that he gave up the attempt and flung at the picture the sponge on which he used to wipe the paints off his brush, and the mark of the sponge produced the effect of a horse's foam. So, too, the Skeptics were in hopes of gaining quietude by means of a decision regarding the disparity of the objects of sense and thought, and being unable to effect this, they suspended judgment; and they found that quietude, as if by chance, followed upon their suspense, even as a shadow follows its substance.


~ Sextus Empiricus

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posted November 10, 2008 09:41 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for MysticMelody     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
"Coincidences are spiritual puns."
- G.K. Chesterton

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posted November 13, 2008 10:41 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Pearlty     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
"Two Wolves"

Cherokee Wisdom

One evening an old Cherokee told his grandson about a battle that goes on inside people.

He said, "My son, the battle is between two wolves inside us all.

One is Evil. It is anger, envy, jealousy, sorrow, regret, greed, arrogance, self-pity, guilt, resentment, inferiority, lies, false pride, superiority, and ego.

The other is Good. It is joy, peace, love, hope, serenity, humility, kindness, benevolence, empathy, generosity, truth, compassion and faith."

The grandson thought about it for a minute and then asked his grandfather: "Which wolf wins?"

The old Cherokee simply replied, "The one you feed."

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posted November 17, 2008 02:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MysticMelody     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
"One of the most difficult things is not to change society - but to change yourself."
- Nelson Mandela

"Truth, like the burgeoning of a bulb under the soil, however deeply sown, will make its way to the light."
- Ellis Peters

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posted November 18, 2008 12:37 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
my favorite quote as of late:
...or one that i have come to understand more and more deeply over the past year or so..

"Learning Zen is a phenomenon of gold and dung. Before you understand it, it's like gold; after you understand it, it's like dung."

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posted November 20, 2008 01:19 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
some quotes i came across in a quote book tonight (saving for future reference and recording). unfortunately most of them are unauthored.... though many i came across seemed familiar. not necessarily the ones i've chosen to post. anyone recognize the authors here?

"He that studies books will know how things ought to be; he that studies men will know how things are."

like that one alot.

"Chaos breeds life when order breeds habit."

"To love is virtually to know; to know is not virtually to love."

"Nobody trips over mountains. It is the little stones that cause us to stumble."

"Believe in love at first sight."

"Zen isnt about old men behind monastery walls -- it's about you and you and you."

"Mistakes are the dues one pays for a full life."

"Fools and fanatics always seem full of themselves, wise people are full of doubts."

"Remember that the best relationship is the one where your love for each other is greater than your need for each other."

"The seeds of Zen are blowing gently across the earth. What a riot of color we shall see when they germinate! And what a good time to be a garderner."

"That life is worth living is the most necessary of assumptions."

"Learn to recognize your talents, don't hide them. What's a sundial in the shade?"

"Never laugh at anyone's dreams."

"Don't judge people by their relatives, judge them by their friends."

"Zen sweats the small stuff."

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posted November 20, 2008 01:23 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
thanks for sharing that nice story Pearlty.

the Wolf is my totem animal and i recently painted a rough watercolor of one.

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posted November 20, 2008 07:10 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Pearlty     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Your welcome 26taurus~

I bet your painting in absolutely gorgeous..

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posted November 20, 2008 04:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MysticMelody     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
♥ those quotes, T

yes, I enjoyed reading the wolf parable again too, Pty... I left it up for days thinking of reposting it for some friends and then decided it wasn't the right time.
i have discovered that the spider is my totem animal... i have a had a tatoo of one since i was around 17ish.
s said you knew about spiders as totems, t

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posted November 21, 2008 12:13 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
hmm...i may have started a spider thread once....

i have a hard time remembering what day it is, my name, address, dob etc most of the time, so i cant remember about spiders now.

cool totem though!

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posted November 22, 2008 11:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Heart--Shaped Cross     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Enlightenment is not an accomplishment,
nor is it some kind of ultimate let-down.
It's really nothing at all.
Stop talking about it, lol.
Stop trying to make it into something.

~ Valerian

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Sorry, i missed your reply before, Pearlty. Thank you. It's okay.

" A master in Zen is not simply a teacher. In all the religions there are only teachers. They teach you about subjects which you dont know, and they ask you to believe because there is no way to bring those experiences into objective reality. Neither has the teacher known them - he has believed them; he transfers his belief to somebody else. Zen is not a believers world. It is not for the faithful ones; it is for those daring souls who can drop all belief, unbelief, doubt, reason, mind, and simply enter into their pure existence without boundaries. But it brings a tremendous transformation. Hence, let me say that while others are involved in philosophies, Zen is involved in metamorphosis, in a transformation. It is authentic alchemy: it changes you from base metal into gold. But its language has to be understood, not with your reasoning and intellectual mind but with your loving heart. Or even just listening, not bothering whether it is true or not. And a moment comes suddenly that you see it, which has been eluding you your whole life. Suddenly, what Gautam Buddha called "eighty-four thousand doors" open. "

~ the much hated and misunderstood Osho

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posted November 25, 2008 01:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Heart--Shaped Cross     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
[By] 1967, U.G. was again concerned with the subject of enlightenment, wanting to know what that state was, which sages such as Siddhârtha Gautama purportedly attained. Hearing that Jiddu Krishnamurti was giving a talk in Saanen, U.G. decided to attend. During the talk, Jiddu was describing his own state and U.G. thought that it referred to him (U.G.). He explained it as follows:

When I Iistened to him, something funny happened to me -- a peculiar kind of feeling that he was describing my state and not his state. Why did I want to know his state? He was describing something, some movements, some awareness, some silence -- "In that silence there is no mind; there is action" -- all kinds of things. So, I am in that state. What the hell have I been doing these thirty or forty years, listening to all these people and struggling, wanting to understand his state or the state of somebody else, Buddha or Jesus? I am in that state. Now I am in that state. So, then I walked out of the tent and never looked back.

He continues:

Then -- very strange -- that question "What is that state?" transformed itself into another question "How do I know that I am in that state, the state of Buddha, the state I very much wanted and demanded from everybody? I am in that state, but how do I know?

Calamity

The next day, on his 49th birthday, U.G. was again pondering the question "How do I know I am in that state?" with no answer forthcoming. He later recounted that on suddenly realizing the question had no answer, there was an unexpected physical, as well as psychological, reaction. It seemed to him like "a sudden explosion inside, blasting, as it were, every cell, every nerve and every gland in my body." Afterwards, he started experiencing what he called "the calamity", a series of bizarre physiological transformations that took place over the course of a week, affecting each one of his senses, and finally resulting in a deathlike experience. He described it this way:

I call it calamity because from the point of view of one who thinks this is something fantastic, blissful and full of beatitude, love, or ecstasy, this is physical torture; this is a calamity from that point of view. Not a calamity to me but a calamity to those who have an image that something marvelous is going to happen.

Upon the eighth day:

Then, on the eighth day I was sitting on the sofa and suddenly there was an outburst of tremendous energy -- tremendous energy shaking the whole body, and along with the body, the sofa, the chalet and the whole universe, as it were -- shaking, vibrating. You can't create that movement at all. It was sudden. Whether it was coming from outside or inside, from below or above, I don't know -- I couldn't locate the spot; it was all over. It lasted for hours and hours. I couldn't bear it but there was nothing I could do to stop it; there was a total helplessness. This went on and on, day after day, day after day.

The energy that is operating there does not feel the limitations of the body; it is not interested; it has its own momentum. It is a very painful thing. It is not that ecstatic, blissful beatitude and all that rubbish -- stuff and nonsense! -- it is really a painful thing.

U.G. could not, and did not, explain the provenance of the calamity experiences. In response to questions, he maintained that it happened "in spite of" his pre-occupation with - and search for - enlightenment. He also maintained that the calamity had nothing to do with his life up to that point, or with his upbringing. Several times he described the calamity happening to him as a matter of chance, and he insisted that he could not possibly, in any way, impart that experience to anybody else.

Describing his post-calamity life, he claimed to be functioning permanently in what he called "the natural state": A state of spontaneous, purely physical, sensory existence, characterized by discontinuity - though not absence - of thought. ... U.G. remained primarily in Switzerland but often travelled to other countries around the world, holding discussions with small groups of people and with interested individuals. However, whenever people sought him for answers to their spiritual dilemmas, he emphasized that he had nothing to teach, and that no one can really learn about enlightenment by depending on someone else as an authority, teacher or guide. He gave his only post-calamity public talk in India, in 1972. ... His unorthodox non-message/philosophy and the often uncompromising, direct style of its presentation, generated a measure of notoriety and sharply divided opinions. At the extremes, some people considered him enlightened (U.G. always refused the label) while others considered him nothing more than a charlatan.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/U._G._Krishnamurti

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posted November 25, 2008 02:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Heart--Shaped Cross     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Who is U.G.?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/U._G._Krishnamurti


Look, Listen, Feel:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IiOzIrrvEnk&NR=1

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=agAcXvmpjXE&NR=1

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9HNXSy4zJTg&NR=1

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QqTz6gG2M9Q


I dont even know if he's for real.

He says he's full of sh*t, lol.

He says, "Come off it, man,".

Sun trine my stellium.

I love this guy.

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posted November 26, 2008 08:03 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Pearlty     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
"I sit quietly, listening to the falling leaves -
A lonely hut, a life of renunciation.
The past has faded, things are no longer remembered,
My sleeve is wet with tears."


~ Ryokan, 1758-1831


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posted November 26, 2008 08:31 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for MysticMelody     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

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posted December 02, 2008 09:53 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Heart--Shaped Cross     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
If life gives you demons, make demonade. ~ Anonymous

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posted December 03, 2008 08:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MysticMelody     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
rock ON

new favorite quote

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The archetype -- let us never forget this -- is a psychic organ present in all of us. A bad explanation means a correspondingly bad attitude towards this organ, which may thus be injured. But the ultimate sufferer is the bad interpreter himself. Hence the "explanation" should always be such that the functional significance of the archetype remains unimpaired, i.e. that an adequate and appropriate relationship between the conscious mind and the archetypes is insured. For the archetype is an element of our psychic structure and thus a vital and necessary component in our psychic economy... There is no "rational" substitute for the archetype any more than there is for the cerebellum or the kidneys.

(C.G. Jung and C.Kerenyi, Introduction to a Science of Mythology)

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"Some believe art is inferior to nature. But that is not so. Art completes nature; in art there is something divine, for it is God Himself who through man completes the beauty of nature, and this is called art. In other words, art is not only an imitation of nature, art is an improvement upon nature, be it painting, drawing, poetry, or music. But the best of all arts is the art of personality."

Hazrat Inayat Khan

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