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Pearlty
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posted November 20, 2014 11:21 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Pearlty     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Given the freedom to create, everybody is creative. All of us have an innate, instinctive desire to change our environment, to put our original stamp on this world, to tell a story never told before. I’m absolutely thrilled at the moment of creativity – when suddenly I’ve synthesized my experiences, reality, and my imagination into something entirely new. But most people are too busy working on survival to find the opportunity to create. Fortunately, I’ve been freed by reputation, by the economics of success, and by emotional contentment to turn my ideas into reality. I’ve discovered that the more freedom I have to be creative, the more creative I become.
~William Shatner

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posted November 20, 2014 11:23 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Pearlty     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

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posted November 20, 2014 12:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Pearlty     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
This is an absolute necessity for anybody today. You must have a room, or a certain hour or so a day, where you don’t know what was in the newspapers that morning, you don’t know who your friends are, you don’t know what you owe anybody, you don’t know what anybody owes to you. This is a place where you can simply experience and bring forth what you are and what you might be, This is the place of creative incubation. At first you may find that nothing happens there. But if you have a sacred place and use it, something eventually will happen.
~Campbell


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posted December 17, 2014 11:12 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Pearlty     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
As for me-for me, the grass grew longer, and more sorrowful, and the trees were surfaced like flesh, and girls were no longer to be treated lightly but were creatures of commanding sadness, and all journeys through the valley were now made alone, with passion in every bush, and the motions of wind and cloud and stars were suddenly for myself alone, and voices elected me of all men living and called me to deliver the world, and I groaned from solitude, blushed when I stumbled, loved strangers and bread and butter, and made long trips through the rain on my bicycle, stared wretchedly through lighted windows, grinned wryly to think how little I was known, and lived in a state of raging excitement.
~Laurie Lee

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posted December 17, 2014 03:29 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The quotes mentioned here are all lovely -


Stone walls do not a prison make,
Nor iron bars a cage;
Minds innocent and quiet take
That for a hermitage.
If I have freedom in my love,
And in my soul am free,
Angels alone, that soar above,
Enjoy such liberty.

- R. Lovelace

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Pearlty
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posted December 18, 2014 10:45 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Pearlty     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

Positively beautiful Queen...thanks for adding.
A most infinite thought indeed

"If I have freedom in my love,
And in my soul am free,
Angels alone, that soar above,
Enjoy such liberty."

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posted January 02, 2015 08:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mirage29     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
thoughts on the creativity of writing Poetry and Songs ...

by Leonard Cohen

(( I quote him here, with slight paraphrasings... Some day when I learn to use video-audio software I will post the 'clip' of a few minutes of a very very long 'tube. ))


I always felt that words of poetry and song
were the Ashes of Experience~~

the ashes were well-burned,
you could clarify them,
you could purify them.

You get rid of the clinkers and the chunks,
and afterwards what you have left
is Beautiful~~
like Fine White Ash.

This is what a really good Song is,
what a good Poem is~~

it could blow away in the wind,
it could blow right through you,
it could blow...right into your Heart.

And when you can 'get out of its way'
the way of your own love,

it becomes True~~
it doesn't become fixed,
it doesn't become solidified.

And when it's not focused rigidly
upon Another Object~~

it broadcasts
in front of you,
in back of you,
to the right of you,
to the left of you,
above you, and
beneath you.

= and you find that in that Center,
there's an encompassing Force Field
including Everything~~

there is no outside,
there is no inside,
that needs to look at anything,
nor needs to be looked at...

It's like the Taste of Honey
when you're very young,
or like Chocolate
when you need something sweet,
and the result is
that every cell of your body
says thank you

Yeah... That's what It's like.


(music) Dance Me To The End Of Love (Leonard Cohen, 1993) [6:21] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ye6JssTdnvw

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Pearlty
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posted January 03, 2015 01:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Pearlty     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

^ pretty... ^

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posted January 07, 2015 12:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Pearlty     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
"Nature looks dead in winter because her life is gathered into her heart. She withers the plant down to the root that she may grow it up again fairer and stronger. She calls her family together within her inmost home to prepare them for being scattered abroad upon the face of the earth. And it is curious to notice that the colouring of spring is like the colouring of autumn."

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"In all the phenomena of rejuvenescence, there is a depression of life preceding the new upraising. The song of the blackbird and thrush, and the bright crimson of the robin's breast in spring, were preceded by the long silence and the dull russet hues of winter."

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"Poetry keeps the mind ever young, brings it back from the irksomeness of exhausted human invention to the fresh freedom and beautiful simplicity of nature. The poetical mind ever and anon touches its native earth, and rebounds strengthened and ennobled. Every new thought we acquire—every mastery we gain over truth—is a renewal of our minds. So, too, with our hearts!"
~H. Macmillan

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posted January 28, 2015 08:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Pearlty     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

"The diseased, anyway, are more interesting than the healthy. The words of the diseased, even those who can manage only a murmur, carry more weight than those of the healthy. Then, too, all healthy people will in the future know disease. That sense of time, ah, the diseased man’s sense of time, what treasure hidden in a desert cave. Then, too the diseased truly bite, whereas the healthy pretend to bite but really only snap at the air. Then, too, then, too, then, too."

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"People see what they want to see and what people want to see never has anything to do with the truth."

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"Nothing good ever comes of love. What comes of love is always something better."

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"Literature is a vast forest and the masterpieces are the lakes, the towering trees or strange trees, the lovely eloquent flowers, the hidden caves, but a forest is also made up of ordinary trees, patches of grass, puddles, clinging vines, mushrooms and little wildflowers."

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"There is a time for reciting poems and a time for fists."

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"Poetry and prison have always been neighbors."

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“How paltry we are and how spectacularly we contort ourselves before our own eyes, and the eyes of others…And all for what? To hide what? To make people believe what?”

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“Now all I read is poetry. Poetry is the one thing that isn’t contaminated, the one thing that isn’t part of the game. I don’t know if you follow me. Only poetry — and let me be clear, only some of it — is good for you, only poetry isn’t **** .”

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"Muse, wherever you
might go
I go.
I follow your radiant trail
across the long night.
Not caring about years
or sickness.
Not caring about the pain
or the effort I must make
to follow you.
Because with you I can cross
the great desolate spaces
and I’ll always find the door
leading back
to the Chimera,
because you’re with me,
Muse,
more beautiful than the sun,
more beautiful
than the stars."

~ Roberto Bolaño

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posted January 29, 2015 02:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

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posted January 29, 2015 07:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mirage29     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Pearlty
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posted February 24, 2015 05:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Pearlty     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
“Do what you love and the necessary resources will follow.”

"Happiness requires courage, stamina, persistence, fortitude, perseverance, bravery, boldness, valor, vigor, concentration, solidity, substance, backbone, grit, guts, moxie, nerve, pluck, resilience, spunk, tenacity, tolerance, will power, chutzpah, and a good thesaurus."

"Be gentle with yourself and others. Don't become so obsessed with the goal that the *process* is not enjoyable. Send the light of your own loving ahead of you. When you get there, the loving will have prepared a place for you. Be kind, gentle and enjoy the journey"

‎"If you want peace, stop fighting with your thoughts. When you're not against yourself or others, you are at peace."

‎"As far as I can tell, the only thing you can take charge of is *the space within your skin.* That's it. Everything (and, especially, everyone) else does not belong to what you can take charge of."

‎"Thank heavens for photography. It nicely balances, on one hand, my love of beauty and fascination for things mechanical with, on the other, my impatience and complete inability to draw"

"In reality, serendipity accounts for one percent of the blessings we receive in life, work and love. The other 99 percent is due to our efforts."

~ Peter McWilliams

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posted February 27, 2015 01:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Pearlty:
“Do what you love and the necessary resources will follow.”

"Happiness requires courage, stamina, persistence, fortitude, perseverance, bravery, boldness, valor, vigor, concentration, solidity, substance, backbone, grit, guts, moxie, nerve, pluck, resilience, spunk, tenacity, tolerance, will power, chutzpah, and a good thesaurus."

"Be gentle with yourself and others. Don't become so obsessed with the goal that the *process* is not enjoyable. Send the light of your own loving ahead of you. When you get there, the loving will have prepared a place for you. Be kind, gentle and enjoy the journey"

ý"If you want peace, stop fighting with your thoughts. When you're not against yourself or others, you are at peace."

ý"As far as I can tell, the only thing you can take charge of is *the space within your skin.* That's it. Everything (and, especially, everyone) else does not belong to what you can take charge of."

ý"Thank heavens for photography. It nicely balances, on one hand, my love of beauty and fascination for things mechanical with, on the other, my impatience and complete inability to draw"

"In reality, serendipity accounts for one percent of the blessings we receive in life, work and love. The other 99 percent is due to our efforts."

~ Peter McWilliams


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“It is better to be hated for what you are than to be loved for what you are not.” - André Gide

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posted March 15, 2015 02:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Pearlty     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

So true, and to that Queen.

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posted March 15, 2015 02:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Pearlty     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

Turning aside from first love and the young
suddenly I contain and cherish all humankind
and the hawk overhead, the fish hidden below
and the beautiful snake sunning
on a nearby rock, my heart hovering
in the eternal moment. …

Now in the aridity of my age
on the dry boards of an old porch I lie alone
suspended in the enormous joy of being
still unknowing: is this divine worship
or earthly Eros? The deep chorale
in the pines like far-off surf, like the sigh
of tidal rivers, the tender suck of waves
on moist banks, hum of our spinning plane
all breathe for me and I for them
in the eternal moment.
~Virginia Adair

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posted March 25, 2015 11:43 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Pearlty     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
"Even nowadays an archaic sense of love-innocence recurs, however briefly, among most young men and women. Some few of these, who become poets, remain in love for the rest of their lives, watching the world with a detachment unknown to lawyers, politicians, financiers, and all other ministers of that blind and irresponsible successor to matriarchy and patriarchy - the mechanarchy."

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"Intuition is the supra-logic that cuts out all the routine processes of thought and leaps straight from the problem to the answer."

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"The difference between prose logic and poetic thought is simple. The logician uses words as a builder uses bricks, for the unemoti onal deadness of his academic prose; and is always coining newer, deader words with a natural preference for Greek formations. The poet avoids the entire vocabulary of logic unless for satiric purposes, and treats words as living creatures with a preference for those with long emotional histories dating from mediaeval times. Poetry at its purest is, indeed, a defiance of logic."
~Robert Graves


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posted March 26, 2015 08:38 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Pearlty     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

“Don't try to rush things: for the cup to run over, it must first be filled.”

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“My philosophy is fundamentally sad, but I’m not a sad man, and I don’t believe I sadden anyone else. In other words, the fact that I don’t put my philosophy into practice saves me from its evil spell, or, rather, my faith in the human race is stronger then my intellectual analysis of it; there lies the fountain of youth in which my heart is continually bathing.”

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“Don't hunt for dissonance:
There is no such thing;
People dance to all tunes.”

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"Traveller, the path is your tracks
And nothing more.
Traveller, there is no path
The path is made by walking.
By walking you make a path
And turning, you look back
At a way you will never tread again
Traveller, there is no road
Only wakes in the sea.”
~Antonio Machado

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posted March 26, 2015 08:58 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Pearlty     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
“What do these forests make you feel? Their weight and density, their crowded orderliness. There is scarcely room for another tree and yet there is space around each. They are profoundly solemn yet upliftingly joyous; like the Bible, you can find strength in them that you look for. How absolutely full of truth they are, how full of reality. The juice and essence of life are in them; they teem with life, growth and expansion. They are a refuge for myriads of living things. As the breezes blow among them, they quiver, yet how still they stand developing with the universe. God is among them. He has breathed with them the breath of life, might and patience. They stand developing, springing from tiny seeds, pushing close to Mother Earth. Fluffy baby things first, sheltering beneath their parents, mounting higher, spreading brave branches, pushing with mighty strength not to be denied skywards. Tossing in the breezes, glowing in the sunshine, bathing in the showers, bending below the snow piled on their branches, drinking the dew, rejoicing in creation, bracing each other, sheltering the birds and beasts, the myriad insects.”

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“I think that one's art is a growth inside one. I do not think one can explain growth. It is silent and subtle. One does not keep digging up a plant to see how it grows.”

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"The artist himself may not think he is religious, but if he is sincere his sincerity in itself is religion."
~ Emily Carr

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posted April 04, 2015 02:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Pearlty:
“What do these forests make you feel? Their weight and density, their crowded orderliness. There is scarcely room for another tree and yet there is space around each. They are profoundly solemn yet upliftingly joyous; like the Bible, you can find strength in them that you look for. How absolutely full of truth they are, how full of reality. The juice and essence of life are in them; they teem with life, growth and expansion. They are a refuge for myriads of living things. As the breezes blow among them, they quiver, yet how still they stand developing with the universe. God is among them. He has breathed with them the breath of life, might and patience. They stand developing, springing from tiny seeds, pushing close to Mother Earth. Fluffy baby things first, sheltering beneath their parents, mounting higher, spreading brave branches, pushing with mighty strength not to be denied skywards. Tossing in the breezes, glowing in the sunshine, bathing in the showers, bending below the snow piled on their branches, drinking the dew, rejoicing in creation, bracing each other, sheltering the birds and beasts, the myriad insects.”

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“I think that one's art is a growth inside one. I do not think one can explain growth. It is silent and subtle. One does not keep digging up a plant to see how it grows.”

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"The artist himself may not think he is religious, but if he is sincere his sincerity in itself is religion."
~ Emily Carr


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posted April 08, 2015 10:05 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Love this thread.

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Pearlty
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posted April 09, 2015 11:42 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Pearlty     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks Randall, I love it too. It's interesting to see different perspectives and make some sense out of this world at times.

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"If I had my life to live over again, I would have made a rule to read some poetry and listen to some music at least once every week."
~Charles Darwin

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"My kids are starting to notice I'm a little different from the other dads. "Why don't you have a straight job like everyone else?" they asked me the other day.

In the forest, there was a crooked tree and a straight tree. Every day, the straight tree would say to the crooked tree, "Look at me...I'm tall, and I'm straight, and I'm handsome. Look at you...you're all crooked and bent over. No one wants to look at you." And they grew up in that forest together. And then one day the loggers came, and they saw the crooked tree and the straight tree, and they said, "Just cut the straight trees and leave the rest." So the loggers turned all the straight trees into lumber and toothpicks and paper. And the crooked tree is still there, growing stronger and stranger every day."
~Tom Waits

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“Wherever
we walk
we will make

Wherever
we protest
we will go planting

Make poems
seed grass
feed a child growing
build a house
Whatever we stand against
We will stand feeding and seeding

Wherever
I walk
I will make”
~ Muriel Rukeyser

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