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Lunesoleil2020
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posted June 14, 2020 10:41 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lunesoleil2020     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

Astrology a relationship of love

Ah! You little sister of astronomy
With whom I gleaned an evolutionary teaching When I was born, you were present in me
I couldn't imagine living without without you Discovering ephemeral relationships
Of a regular knowledge education
Commitment is realized through the school of life In parallel with a followed intuition
A lifestyle marked by difference
A piece of knowledge about indulgence
Meet the study of symbolism
The observation in memory of the analogy
With a relay of constant meditation
I could observe my conscience
This relationship that comes from within
And transforms our life from the outside
A transitional link without taboos
In the abandonment of a human adventure Perseverance an asset since it is unique Battles are a victory over ourselves
Each day has enough trouble of its
The agreement is spread across borders Subject to waiting for our prayers
Consider the impact of universal laws Astrology is the individual reflection Collect examples from the wild
The truth is somewhere else I assure you

©Lunesoleil

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posted June 14, 2020 01:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mirage29     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Lunesoleil2020:
Astrology a relationship of love

Ah! You little sister of astronomy
With whom I gleaned an evolutionary teaching When I was born, you were present in me
I couldn't imagine living without without you Discovering ephemeral relationships
Of a regular knowledge education
Commitment is realized through the school of life In parallel with a followed intuition
A lifestyle marked by difference
A piece of knowledge about indulgence
Meet the study of symbolism
The observation in memory of the analogy
With a relay of constant meditation
I could observe my conscience
This relationship that comes from within
And transforms our life from the outside
A transitional link without taboos
In the abandonment of a human adventure Perseverance an asset since it is unique Battles are a victory over ourselves
Each day has enough trouble of its
The agreement is spread across borders Subject to waiting for our prayers
Consider the impact of universal laws Astrology is the individual reflection Collect examples from the wild
The truth is somewhere else I assure you

©Lunesoleil


Hi. When you appeared at Yellow Wax to wish our Pearlty Happy Birthday, I waited in happy expectation to see your work.

When I clicked the url underneath your poem to view it on your website, I didn't see THIS poem listed there at all. What I found were other French-language poems you had posted in your blog.
{I liked some of those. I still remember some of my French. Translating French into English, loses some of the Beauty of the language}

I couldn't locate THIS poem which you've presented here, in the English language.

So, why did you leave that url under 'this' English poem?

It wasn't there.


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There's an astrologer in the Netherlands who speaks Dutch, and French, as well as English. On her 'English language' youtube channel, she leaves links to her channel presenting astrology in other languages.

Your website is 'only' in French.
LL is an 'English' website.

In your instructions to me (and others), in another thread, you expected people to hunt your articles and information {not knowing the language}, then for them to find the Translate button-- with the next step to expect people to paste your materials into google translator, and 'try' to read the results there?! LOL

Did you know how hard it is to read materials IN the translator's skinny window?

"Presentation" is PART of communication, and attracting business.

Business-wise? Idea.
Is your agenda here to drive more traffic, using "LL" for advertising your work?

Why don't 'you-yourself' create a FRESH and separate "English version" of materials from your French language website? --
{{Makes sense, right??}}

Again, Poems... don't really translate?
There's Beauty in original French that translations lose.

That's a starting point for you, for a separate 'english' website, to showcase your poetry, if you are wanting to attract the English people to your work.

Start a 'new thing' for your future.
Expand yourself.
Yes, it will be a LOT of work for you?


Also?.. I've noticed you are struggling with communicating in English words? You don't know all the English vocabulary for the basic astrology-words. I noticed that in several threads.

That's COMPLETELY okay!!!!
We have many people here at LL who's first language is not ours, and they are here to "practice."
I have TREMENDOUS admiration for the people here who are learning English! {{hugs!}}
Some of them are self-conscious-- and they apologize...
omg!!! I just want to hug them.
I would NEVER have known, with some here.
So
Please don't feel strange about practicing and learning to master English.
I think that's awesome and courageous!!

Our poets here--
LF DX speaks Spanish as his primary.
Ayelet speaks in Hebrew, coming from Israel here.
I've been here 8 years now, and I've watched both of them blossom!!!


Here is Veerle Debruyne's youtube channel. She has extra expertise at Eclipses (I saw you mention those on your own channel).
- http://www.youtube.com/user/Veerledebruyne?feature=watch

Look on the right, and find that she has astrology broadcasts available in two other languages.

Maybe you can make an appointment to speak with her? Give you some of her experience.

You've already done a LOT of work ALL Totally in French.

{end/business section}
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I was going to continue with a critique on your poem, but I think I'll do it in a separate post.


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Lunesoleil2020
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posted June 14, 2020 04:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lunesoleil2020     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Want to be

I want to live
Like that wind up there in the mountains
In the dark it vibrates like a wave to the soul

I would like to love
No longer able to breathe
And let this breath of life give me eternity

I would cry
All the tears of happiness
And fill a basket with flowers

I would like to write
The story of the future
To make it happen as you go

© Lunesoleil

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posted June 14, 2020 04:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lunesoleil2020     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

since you appreciate my poetry, I share with you another poem, would you like?


I feel Lilith in a trance
All his body this balance
In this frenzy of absence
From a cosmic illusion
She abandons herself in the asylum
And my tearing heart
To not understand the riddle
To you Lilith my fictional point
A sacred landmark in the universe

Surrounded by so much mystery
Anxiety creating the ultimate relief
Of an ethereal facade
Of pictorial consciousness
What a forgotten silence

© Lunesoleil [4/11/2007]

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posted June 14, 2020 11:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mirage29     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Lunesoleil2020:
Yes I see that, you are very critical

And you're very hilarious!!

Thank you for trying to improve your 'translation' from the french url.

QUOTE---------------------------------
"Astrology a loving relationship"

Ah! You little sister of astronomy
with which I have gleaned a living teaching

I was born, you were present in me
I could not imagine living without you without

Discovering ephemeral relationship
On a regular knowledge of education

The commitment is realized through the school of life
In parallel with a followed intuition

A way of life marked by difference
In baggage a knowledge of indulgence

Encountering the study of symbolism
Observation in memory of analogy

With a relay of constant meditation
I could observe my conscience

This relationship which comes from the inside
And transforms our life from the outside

A transitional link without taboo
In the abandonment of a human adventure

Perseverance an asset since singular
The battles are a victory over us

Each day suffices its pain
The agreement is transmitted beyond the borders

Subject to waiting for our prayers
Think about the impact of universal laws

Astrology is the individual reflection
Collect examples in nature

The truth is elsewhere I assure you

*
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Nice. Having steeped in astrology for a while, I can relate to that.

Error.
I guess that the word awkwardness is due to Google 'trying to discern' what comes closest to the 'translation' of original French. You haven't translated your work to English. Let the 'computer' do that, and (I'm not sure if you 'realize') that doesn't always work out.

{That's one of the reasons why I suggested you could create a new poetry website.} Instead of depending on people to overlook your errors by computer-translation, you can do that work yourself. Taking responsibility, rather than leave it to English language people to 'forgive' your French-English translating.
. .
Doing that could give YOU 'more control' over the word choices that 'fit', and helps the poem feel more tied-together. … You can't control the computer's choice of word meant.


* You call astrology 'the little sister'?
ACTUALLY, in the history books,
Astrology existed first, then astronomy separated from it.
Astrology = is the 'big' sister...
but, what you wrote is very cute and too endearing using words 'little' sister!
(not accurate) *thumbsup*

* OP = "With whom I gleaned an evolutionary teaching"
Google re-translated this to
"with which I have gleaned a living teaching"
..
2nd translation sounds like 'you made all your money/income from it'.
..
1st translation sounds like you 'grew' from it
Maybe BOTH are true! *grin*

*. Google's translation of OP {original post}
"Each day has enough trouble of its" --

This line is a bible quote referencing Matthew 6:34---
Each day has enough trouble of its 'own'.

. .
Google RE-translated it as
"Each day suffices its pain"
..
2nd translation of this phrase is more complete.
"Trouble" doesn't always have pain associated with it.
Having plenty of difficulties? yes, it does.

*. Google 1st OP translation
"Astrology is the individual reflection
Collect examples from the wild.

Google (now) re-translated the word 'wild' to nature.

"Astrology is the individual reflection
Collect examples in nature"
^
Lune.. Gently, Honestly?
those lines in translation don't 'make as much sense' in meaning
than it probably had in the original French.

Translating these don't do it as much justice.
Maybe IF you would have thought out your poem in English language (in your mind-- think it 'in English') you would have come up with the appropriate word to which the meaning applies.

_______________________________________
2nd Poem
__________________________________________

(You said) since you appreciate my poetry,
I share with you another poem,
would you like?)
~
(Sure, of course!)
~

TITLE I feel Lilith in a trance

All his body this balance
In this frenzy of absence
From a cosmic illusion
She abandons herself in the asylum
And my tearing heart
To not understand the riddle
To you Lilith my fictional point
A sacred landmark in the universe
Surrounded by so much mystery
Anxiety creating the ultimate relief
Of an ethereal façade
Of pictorial consciousness
What a forgotten silence
[2007]

~
I liked that one. Certainly very passionate.

You've certainly done a lot of work.
Poems encapsulate hours and years of time, into a few succinct moments of reading.
Good for our remembrance.

Have a good day.
It's near-morning where you are.
Bed time for me.

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Lunesoleil2020
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posted June 15, 2020 04:16 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lunesoleil2020     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Instance reflection

Difficulty of existence
We would like to do penance
When the mind is restless
Sleep the desire to exist
On search for the truth
Is that the darkness ..?
Facing the submission of the day
Who spends his turn ..?
Nothing is the same
When knowledge awakens
We want the sky
But there is the earth
We would like to love
Believe in eternity
You witness a smile
I know you have to translate
When we give love
We receive a return
In human experience
There is always anger
In itself through the other
Door closed silence

© Lunesoleil

Ah Mercury in its retro loop, I will have to write a poem on Mercury

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posted June 15, 2020 12:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mirage29     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Lunesoleil2020:
What is your astrological sign to criticize what I do?

I am in the energies, the vibrations of the soul, why not receive, appreciate the other in his difference. No matter the translator, the words express another meaning. Astrology a loving relationship has transcended the Jupiter and Saturn cycle. I answer you on the mobile and between the pages in French translation and the original in English I spend a lot of time on the computer and I have to come back to the edition to add text that was inspired by me. Ah Mercury in its retro loop, I will have to write a poem on Mercury


WOW!! You come to this website /// ---
You attacked me in Asteroid Forum when I was the only one responding to things you wrote.

And what you have chosen, HERE and in 3 other forums, is to stoop to an attack-- using 'astrology' for it -- plus 'calling me names'???? You're NEW here!!! ..
I've seen your 'name' in other websites--
You did THE SAME THING to other people AT those websites, and got in trouble for it. *bheart*

I don't think it's "French" to be so rude.
Don't blame it on your culture.

wow ---
What an introduction you have made here at LL.
(for ~shame!)

#*RED FLAG*!!!!

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Lunesoleil2020
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posted June 15, 2020 02:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lunesoleil2020     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
ASTRAL INFLUENCE

The birth certificate is the refuge
The guardian of our destiny
Our reference is conditioned
Of an epitome that evolves
Observed as it looks
It's hard to want to reorganize
Since our soul requests it
Let’s relearn our loved ones
but by sustained effort
The path may seem like a chimera
Persevere is a weapon of salvation
Transform it and life becomes free

©Lunesoleil

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posted June 15, 2020 02:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lunesoleil2020     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
DOUBLE FULL MOON

You who strangely shapes my pen
A harmony of scum
To make room for this Full Moon duo

An exceptional moment of ecstasy
Or abandonment discovers the original
Fusion consciousness projector

Double Full Moon

Between birth and Lunation
Who maintains the Oracle of the Pharaohs
Where our emotions are linked
A look for an illusion

Ideal moment of ecstasy achieved
Inner world symbolized
Sweetness still intoxicated

Eternally keep it in you
Sacred him like a king
Oh double Full moon to you

© Lunesoleil

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posted June 15, 2020 03:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lunesoleil2020     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
THE EVIL OF THE FUTURE

Be able to recognize your pain
Tap into the symbols of the planets
the ability to explore one's joys
Learn the language of laws
No one is a prophet in his own country
A love lesson is allowed
To all who wish
Free yourself from an arbitrary culture
Knowledge is a peaceful asset
Preserved for a useful purpose
A look at yourself
The joy in recommendation of accuracy
Since ignorance calls for science
Remember the time of silences
There reigns the mystery of the truth
And each one is released in serenity
Defend yourself from predicting the inevitable
The emergence would be fatal
Otherwise be responsible
To endanger an unstable
The revelation to its weaknesses
but also an eternal fulfillment

©Lunesoleil

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posted June 15, 2020 03:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lunesoleil2020     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
INCLUDED

Present in each sky map
A strong or weak saturn
Become celestial karma
With him your destiny is on earth
From an introspective trend
Looking for a master's degree
The place Saturn chose
Can become a source of displeasure
You just have to accept it
As an offline item
Saturn the unloved
The abandoned wise man
Brings frustration over events
Slowness accompanied by torment
Saturn forces detachment
Until authorizing isolation
Saturn is the material restriction
The surrender of his earthly ego
By patience gains in wisdom
The discovery of the essential

©Lunesoleil

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posted June 15, 2020 03:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lunesoleil2020     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
BETWEEN THE TWO SIGNS

My heart rests between the two
Obviously zodiacal composition

Under the birth sky the scorpion
It's all about attraction and repulsion

And governed by the time of birth
The sign of the bull by its elegance

A blend in the extreme
Between carnal day and drunken night

Each in parallel of opposite value
Periodically clashes in uniqueness

A complementary relationship
Give and receive in a flash

In the astrological wheel
One talks about participation in life

And the other demands a mutation
Getting these emotions back into shape

Perceived reality in the face of eternity death
Reunited and separated in my personality

Alternating two fatal encounters
Astral logical symbolism

All impatience
Like a providence

I send you back a smile
Legitimate fireworks

©Lunesoleil

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posted June 15, 2020 11:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Pearlty     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Beautiful poems so far, I’ll keep reading!!

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posted June 15, 2020 11:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Pearlty     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
* edit..
for comment below, you’re welcome mirage,
and thanks for your perceptiveness..


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quote:
Originally posted by Pearlty:
and this Scorpio Moon is watching you


I appreciate that Pearlty.
thank you
she altered posts in this thread, after having been soooooooo scathingly ~nasty!!.
I "should" have been whole-quoting her all along, but I don't do that to people..
especially when I know they'll need to correct ~little normal things.

She changed CONTENT.

You've known me here for a LONG time.
I don't #*red flag* without good reason to.

~ not a person with right vibes and under bad 'intentions' !!

{This person has caused conflict and strife at TWO 'other' websites, before her coming here}

Always causing strife/division using exact-same m.o. ..

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posted June 16, 2020 02:23 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lunesoleil2020     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Pearlty:
Beautiful poems so far, I’ll keep reading!!


A poem written in November 2002

Heaven is sending you
And on Earth what a stir
I thank all the angels
From this strange relationship
Stay a little with me Just be you
Forgive me my condition
On the surface is this a case?
Open your consciousness
Do you perceive my presence?
I'm just passing by
Admire the immensity
Love is it a crime?
Or it’s sublime

© Lunesoleil

Oh merci Pearlty

Gift for you, thank you for enjoying my poetry

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