posted March 21, 2003 02:57 AM         

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http://www.resurrectisis.org/

and peace be with you, as we sail into sun in aries!

posted March 21, 2003 11:58 AM         

i got a feeling like i did when i first read star signs. and then i realised that only the knowflakes would really be counted on to look and really drink it in. i am so glad you dug it L=T=D

posted March 21, 2003 01:30 PM         

Welcome to the Forum!

Thank for that interesting post... and I'd have to say, I do not believe that this is the wrong forum for that post!

I took a quick peek at that site... I think this was just the right place, and I will have to explore it further before I can comment intelligently!

I will say one thing tho.. According to Linda... Isis WAS the Mother of This Eden Heaven/Earth.. but She was NOT Eve!

You may want to have a peek at the "Questions for Aselzion" thread also living in this Forum!

By the way... love your nickname!

posted March 21, 2003 07:26 PM         

i love it!

posted March 22, 2003 09:35 AM         

Perhaps Isis is the over-soul of Eve and Lilith? (The 2 soul pieces)
Isis is the I Linda talked about (the I and O over souls... O being Osiris), ISIS with the serpent s of wisdom, but the two I's and two S's in her name make me think that she is a two-fold entity, kind of like double-edged sword of feminity.
Feminity as an essence is like all essences, a trinity of 3.
If the feminine and masculine essences are negative and positive, night and day, then we can maybe think that in the trinity of Isis, her feminine nature is a two-fold serpent wisdom… by blending into itself the female essence that is Isis become creative.
The two serpents I think we discovered in the lexis before were good and the third was the opposite to good and therefore bad. The serpents in the name Isis are the negative vibrations, passivity and inversion, night-TIME so the third serpent is the manifestation of the two serpents of Isis, which is disconnection and chaos, because there is nothing to connect two together as one, except in splitting in two, then there is disconnection, and in disconnecting there is action, and where there is action there is a purpose of reconnecting again.
A third force of action is needed to disconnect and reconnect.
The two serpents of feminine wisdom need to be integrated by a third force and a different essence, a positive day essence so that the in-active negative becomes an active negative and can reproduce itself...serpent eating it's own tail creates Earth and life.... the logos of creative thought and creative deed becomes physical creation…. The Magician, (the masculine essence) equals the High Priestess and the Empress. They are each separate entities of the whole.
But what is female is one entity in the separation of her-elf shown by the ages of matriarchy and patriarchy.

Actual creation is ISIS … Her star is the Venus star, and her tarot card is both the High Priestess for wisdom and Empress for creation and abundance.
The link called Isis a natural 'genIus', she was the first, and she creates the genes on earth by separating the trinity of the wisdom of her heart in two... Lilith and eve become separate on earth and begin two different lines of genes, and two different lines of genIus... Eve, line of light and Lilith, line of darkness.
Now the soul of Isis being is split in two in physical Lilith and Eve they are female, being, an internal night essence that rises from the ground (earth and heart) to the heavens (mind, concept) and needs the seed of the heavens, day to bring the soul to physical manifestation (conception) so the third part of the trinity is male... so the trinity is 2 feminine principals and one masculine... and manifesting physically as Eve, Lilith and Adam... This trinity creates the genetics of all life on earth. But this trinity of life on earth itself was sprung from the earth, the heart of Isis? And from the disconnection of the soul Isis and her twin Osiris.
Isis gave her heart's wisdom (earth) to Satan (Saturn and time), the third serpent, so that Osiris could rise again. Only by the incarnations of the 14 soul pieces on earth could this manifest, from soul to Earth, then earth to soul. The night of the feminine essence is constantly connected to the day masculine essence and creates time as the day connects to the night. A constant serpent eating it's own tail.
The Sun and the Moon represent this, the Sun is always rising in the morning… through, Osiris in the Sun, Isis in the Moon and Saturn connects them together and creates night and day and time.
So even though the Male essence is, the female essence ISIS and by turning into herself the earth creates man and wo-man, woman is the womb of man as earth is the womb of all men and women.
Does this make sense?

posted March 22, 2003 05:31 PM         

Wow.. you were prolific there.

I think that you have some very interesting thoughts going on, probably more than I can comment on in one post.

Linda firmly believed that The 2 "god serpents" were Isis and Osiris Twin soul children Vulcan and Mercury.

Eve was Nephthys after she came to Earth with her Twin Soul Set. Supposedly they changed their names when they came to Earth and became known as... Adam and Eve.

Though Linda spoke of the 2 aspects of Isis incarnating as mother/lover as in Mary the Virgin and Mary Magdalene... and they always incarnating under the sign of the Ram, I'm not sure that makes good sense on an evolutionary sort of level.

But, I have also had some enlightenment from Conversations with God by Neale Donald Walsch, that makes me kind of take a whole new look at the Twin Soul mystery. Have you had a chance to read that?

I only took a quick look at the Isis site, so I'm going to have to ponder more of it further.

But I think your spiraling definitely makes sense.

Keep up the good work!

posted March 22, 2003 09:08 PM         

Yes I began reading Conversations with God but I stopped it about a quarter way through because I wanted to see if by the time I picked the book up to read it again, I will have already come to the conclusions I will be reading.
Alot of the reading at the beginning of the book I was just like, yeah yes I know this, but it's seeing it in someone else's words thats kind of freaky because you feel like they were your words before and you think now why didn't I write that! and then in a way you realise that you did because you're reading it and therefore creating in with your mind.
I always assumed that the stuff you are learning is what you already know. when you know the question you already know the answer because it takes the same effort to get to the question as it does to the answer, they are just flip sides of the coin... question, answer.
Thats why I hated school so much because it tries to teach it's pupils things they already know and forces us to learn things that restrict our freedom of mind.
teacher is Cheater,I understand that one.
Anyway I'm blabbing on.
I'm hope you don't mind that I have so many questions that I know the answers to, so I'll be asking you lots! because even though I'm aware of the questions I'm not aware of their answers...
Growing and knowing... The difference is in the asking I think and we're all called Knowflakes here!

posted March 25, 2003 03:24 PM         

Wow, you can sure fit the maximum of info into the minimum of space! Must have to do with being Irish!

Linda didn't ever mention Lilith in her Creation story, but I think that had to do with her belief that Isis and Osiris were the co-creators of this Earth and Adam and Eve were merely outer space interlopers.

I know of Lilith's existence, but have yet to read anything about her that "rang" my Inner Bell... and I'm not "hearing" anything about her intuitively, so I can't speak about that intelligently at this point.

You mentioned something about Isis and Osiris not being evolutionary, but perhaps revolutionary... and my only comment there is that still makes no sense.. the very nature of the UNIVERSE is that EVERYTHING CHANGES... even God. So we are constantly re-thinking and re-making and so-forth; so again.. that they would always incarnate under the same Signs doesn't make any sense to me.

Further, if they are NOT changing.. then I do not WANT them to come back and take over the Earth! I mean, look where we got from their beginnings... see what I mean?

posted March 26, 2003 08:45 AM         

Ok I never even considered the idea of outer space interlopers!
Did Linda write about this in starsigns?
when I think I'm beginning to recover things then an asteroid comes and disrupts my way of thinking, you don't happen to have a Uranus influence in your chart do you?
So how does the space interloper come here to Earth (via asteroid?)
And if Adam and Eve were not of the Earth then why does Adam's name mean 'red' or 'soil'.. Was he from Mars? and Eve's name means 'life-giving'but also 'before'so eve came before the 'life giving'?
And if Isis and Osiris were the co-creator of earth does that mean they were Earth's parents?
Who is Earth, the Goddess?
And if we are her children, and she is feminine as in wo(mb)-man does that mean we are not even born yet, as the Christians say we must be re-born, do we exit through a labour like channel and come out into another world?

You also say about evolution and revolution, doesn't there need to be revolution from time to time in order for us to evolve?
Everything does change, but it is constantly changing so because it's changing we are in mutable conditions but because it is constant, we are also continually fixed. The very idea of mutability is that it is as fixed as it is cardinal as is mutable, it just changes all the time but the thing that stays fixed is change...
The flip side of the coin thing, It is changing and it isn't, but just when it is, it isn't.
If history repeats itself then thats exactly what happens.... it's the same thing being re-played over and over again.
There is the need for this because without a cosmic kind of (world tarot) consciousness, we replay everything because me miss alot of things out. Like everytime I read posts here over and over I get something new from it and it adds to my previous understanding and deepens it.
Then I can delve into the same thing further and expand on it.
Just one word here stretches into many when we lexi it.
I'm being an annoying Libran here because I do see where you are coming from with regards to the signs of Osiris and Isis, they, like all men and women should experience all the lessons of the zodiac also. I'm sure this is the very way that the same life purpose repeats itself over and over as the concentration deepens,expands,contracts etc. according to the sign and what needs to be learnt.
So I do agree with what you're saying and when I read it in Linda's book, I thought
it didn't seem right because I'm a Libran and I can only comprehend Isis as a Libran and not an Aries just in the way Linda was.
To me Linda was saying when the time is right you become and you unite with your twin, you become As Creative As Isis and Osiris.
Do you believe earth is a school?
That we are contracted here to learn love?
When I read 'Conversations with God' I didn't get that from the book. The book was saying that Earth wasn't a school at all, we aren't here to learn lessons, that it's either love or fear that you choose. All about the choice!
The lovers card, then the devil, then the Moon.
I'm blabbing again.
Really there is no point in an opinion (fixed idea) because the information is always changing (mutable conditions).
I just feel like saying to people sometimes ok just tell me what you know!
But they need to know what I want to know before they can say what it is that they know that I therefore need to know.
lol I'm giving up on this post now!
Thanks for replying Aselzion.

posted March 27, 2003 11:32 AM         

I checked that Twin Soul discussion, but I have to tell you.. I'm not exactly sure where I stand on that topic.

I think it's a very romantic idea that there would be one other Soul that would "complete" an individual... but I have a hard time buying into that concept on several different levels.

If I believe that we are all reflections of God... or God in the process of experiencing Itself on the Physical plane, then I cannot believe that we are "half beings" in search of that "other part" which completes us. In that case.. we are ALL Soul Mates of each other, because we are all individuated aspects of God. Make any sense?

I certainly believe that we encounter our old buddies, family members, lovers or what have you from "past lives" in this physical incarnation. Personally, I've met an entire cast of characters that I've "known" before.

But that brings up another issue.. that of Time. I do not believe that Time is really a factor in any but this Third Dimensional Level, so.. perhaps these people we "know that we know" could as easily be from a future Life... as perceived in this material time/space.

So.. I'm probably not the best person to comment on Twin Souls or Soul Mates... As I said before in regard to Isis and Osiris.. if there is no change, no evolution... I don't want em back!

And I also refuse to believe that I cannot evolve by myself without latching on to that "other part of me".. because I feel that the Creator/God(dess) IS that other part of me!

See what I mean... I have a few ideas, but nothing concrete. More questions than answers... but do I believe that I must first "connect with" my "Soul Mate" to find them? Not by a long shot!

posted March 28, 2003 07:45 PM         

I realize that what I said does indeed contradict Linda's teaching... and I think that is as it should be.

Any Teacher, be it Linda, Jesus, Buddha or whomever, is here to encourage our quest for truth and knowledge. They give us the benefit of their wisdom and experience, and then we are left to take it, analyze it, experiment with it and keep what works for us, discarding the rest.

The Christ Himself said, "In my Father's house are many mansions: if it were not so, I would have told you. I go to prepare a place for you. And if I go and prepare a place for you, I will come again, and receive you unto myself; that where I am, there ye may be also." I think basically what He is trying to convey is that there are many roads to Truth, yet they all lead to the same destination.

As I say.. I am not sure what I believe about Twin Selves or Soul Mates, but I have some serious reservations. I say to you.. look at other sources, ask many questions, meditate and pray upon the subject and see what comes... this will be your Truth.

And that is the only Truth that should matter to you... but, "in the end"... as Jewel sang, "only kindness matters."

I bid you Peace...

A

posted March 29, 2003 08:21 AM         

OK so you find your twin soul,you walk off into the sunset holding hands,you start spreading love and light with the ideal being(for me anyway)putting the earth back together again to the beautiful garden it once was.ER-HELLO....BORING
do you want to know what I personally think-thats BORING with a capital B.
I'm sure those golden apples on the trees will taste beautiful and nothing like the present apples we eat,I'm sure you can make wonderful fruit pies with wheat and honey(I think it's OK to eat honey when the bees have been treated properly) which are the same as the food of the gods,I'm sure it's lovely popping over the hill to see Maureen and Dave your immortal friends and knowing their house is not far away nestling in the hill with tame doves and white horses furraging for food and coming near.

My initial reaction is-boring,cant be bothered.

However I do bother

It hurts me when I walk into my local chinese takeaway and I see a tank of beautiful fish,put in that small tank,constantly under a flourescent light,knowing that the owners probably dont bother to even turn that light off when they leave at night so the fish can at least have a period of relief from the light burning their aquatic,lidless eyes,or that the owner hasnt even provided enough vegetation in the tank so they can hide away which fish need to do.When I walk up to the desk I see their faces and they are forced constantly to look out and constantly absorb a brightly lit world of humans,obsorbing everything as one after another comes in and out.That the owner doesnt even know,hasnt even noticed this.

It hurts when I see a beautiful innocent little angel-a child that is-being crushed by his or her parent seeing the pupils of their eyes growing black with fear as they are told off instead of being loved and having all the beautiful magic and love being squeezed out of them because their father or mother sees them as an extension of themselves to take out their frustrations on, which is behaviour they themselves learnt from their parents.

It hurts when I see a bossy adult in my local library standing in front of children saying-look,look, what is this?What do you think this thing does?What's your favourite colour?How many petals on this flower?Therefore removing that childs ability to think for himself about the world,to just see and know what he/she knows.
WHY,WHY do we have to be taught to pick out a favourite colour,they're all beautiful and co-exist.
WHY do we have to walk around a town or museum with a stupid clipboard and a sheet of paper to answer these questions which are an adults idea of how we should see the world and what we should look at.Cant children just be allowed to see what they see and know what they know.
Why do adults prod children in their minds like this and interfere with them only because they need to reduce people so that they can keep a society going in which they are the gods because they have no actual god power over themselves and their lives so they try to have this power over others

This is why I would like to aim for being Maureen and Daves neighbours-because in that world there would be no more suffering like this.Everyday I try(and I will stress try)to be the christ that I can in my life and to me that is putting the world back together to how it was,so therefore that means connecting with my twin soul.This also means often waving goodbye to people who I feel are interfering with my quest,it often means outgrowing friends(that might sound a bit arrogant but there you go)it means a lot of the time I feel like'a black crow flying in a blue sky'to quote that wonderful scorpio woman Joni Mitchell.
I feel that this is my part of the deal and this is my responsibility I need to take

posted March 29, 2003 11:19 AM         

If you didn't expect my first response, I'm sure you're going to love this one too...

I do NOT believe in a masculine/feminine principle in anything but this Third Dimensional Level... we choose these forms of expression because that is what WORKS here... but do I believe that the SOUL is either Masculine or Feminine? Again, a resounding NO! If that were the case, we would ALWAYS have either all Male incarnations or all Female incarnations, and from my own experience with recall, I have had both!

If we take that to its logical conclusion: Everything is ENERGY and vibration, and I don't believe that gender is an ENERGY manifestation so much as a physical manifestation. Carl Jung spoke of the Anima/Animus; that bit of woman in every man, and bit of man in every woman... this is probably closer to the tuth.

In Spirit I would say we are probably something closer to Androgynous or Bisexual with the capacity to LOVE every other expression.

So.. IF I DID believe in Soul Mates or Twin Selves, I DO NOT believe that they would be limited to heterosexual couples only, but that EVERY ONE would have the same chance to discover that special bond. Again, I know this is in contradiction to Linda's teaching, but, again I say, I think that is as it should be.

See, I don't believe that God would PUNISH us in any fashion by making a choice to experience a physical incarnation as a homosexual... in this case, if one were to find it's Mate/Twin, I'm sure that that Spirit would be equally as joyous to Incarnate in the same gender form. But this is only what makes sense to me. Cutting off whatever percentage of the population is gay/lesbian or what have you from the "blessed union" does NOT sound to me like something a loving Creator would do... nor would the Twin/Mate. Again, this is said in the light of, "if I believed in such a condition", which at present... I'm not so sure I do.

Now, this is only my opinion at this point in Space/Time... it, like everything else is subject to change.