posted April 07, 2003 08:23 PM           

One of the things this true story talks about is Belovodia, also known as Shambhala, a fabled civilization of highly evolved humans who have for eons spread their sacred knowledge through the world's religion, includion Buddhism, Christian mysticism, Sufisn , Zoroastrianism and Vedic Hinduism. Further, she talks about the Spirit Twin in all of us and how she uses shamanic widson to heal her patients.

Thanks in advance for any feedback.

posted April 08, 2003 02:13 PM         

No I haven't heard of it.

Are you reading it? What do you think?

posted April 08, 2003 09:51 PM           

I read the book last weekend and did enjoy it. In fact, I just ordered her second book. The book hit several truths with me and had me consider some new ideas.

One: Belovodia or Shambhala. Siberian legend is that the Altai Mountains in Siberia was the home of some long forgotten, advanced eosteric civilization. Long, long, long time ago a catastrophe hit Eurasia which dramatically changed their climate. Their warm weather turned to ice and it became impossible to survive. As their society possessed a rare spiritual intensity, preservation of this spiritual knowledge became the goal of their spiritual elite. After the catastrophe, most of the survivors migrated south (and some west) while the spiritual elite chose to remain behind to form a nucleus which would connect the wanderers back to the remaining group. Those who left were then governed through their connection with these remaining priests. It was through this migration which many religions were born. For example, when they reached Iran, this knowledge manifested into the birth of Zoroastrianism. Later, this same stream transferred much of its knowledge to Christianity, etc. Further, the group who went west became known as the Celts and were connected to the common source through the ceremonies of the Druids. It is believed that today Great Holy Beings live there whose purpose is to work with the heavenly Light Power to guide people on earth. Every 100 years they let 7 people into the hidden Belovodia. Six return to earth with this sacred knowledge. End of Legend. In summary, maybe some part of the legend is true as it did hit several chords in me it certainly made me want to schedule a trip to the Altai Mountains to check it out. Also, it also supports my analogy that religion is like ice cream but with many different flavors.

A second: Diseases of the Mind. She said there are 2 causes for mind diseases and they are totally opposite. 1) Lost Soul which is given away unconsciously for something they want or 2) Overwhelmed soul occupied by a foreign power. She gave real life examples how several "hopeless" cases were greatly helped under these assumption. This is based on the Shaman belief that each disease has it's own spirit and can be communicated with to heal a person. Interesting concepts and again these hit a nerve with me. Actually, intuitively I had begun to believe that diseases could be caused by a "visiting" spirit/entity. I just had not processed this idea far enough.

A third: Spirit Twins aka Spirit Helper, Spirit Guide, Shadow Watchers, or Inner Guardian. She says there are 7 kinds of Spirit Twins and one of our important tasks is to learn to identify our own. The 7 are: Healer, Magus, Teacher, Messenger, Protector, Warrior and Executor.

In closing, I liked her First Rule: Everything should be evaluated by the criteria of Truth, Beauty, Health, Happiness and Light.

There you have it...my reasons for liking this book.

What do you and all the other Knowflakes think?

posted April 21, 2003 06:19 AM         

Sounds like something I'll have to add to my reading list.

I'm not so sure about Souls being "lost", but I think I get the idea. One can always choose to "turn away" from the Source for a time, but I don't actually believe that a Soul is ever really lost, other than by Free Will Choice. And even then, I do not believe that God would abandon or punish that Soul for its choice. How else can we learn/remember what is is to BE God, without experiencing what is is to NOT BE God?

I'm interested in what she seems to call Spirit Twins... sounds a wee bit like Angels or Guides to me, under a different name. And, A rose, by any other name would smell as sweet!

I'll look forward to reading it, or hearing more about those concepts!

posted April 27, 2003 01:29 PM           

I hope all is well in your part of the world. I'm planning another trip to Scotland this summer. I just can't seem to stay away !

Thank you for the information about the sacred Merkaba Techniques. I did read the article on the Knights Templar. One of my first lexis was on the Knights Templar and the information in this article "validates" my lexi! So, again, thank you. I need to read more about the Blue Race of Humanity...very interesting indeed.

I just finished reading the book: Brother of the Third Degree by Will L. Garver. Pretty interesting, too. Have you read it?

I'm also reading more about the Cathars and if I can contribute to your wealth of information I will post it.

This Learning Angel is spending alot of time reading these days so the timing of your post was impeccable. ALA

posted April 28, 2003 06:14 PM           

I feel real fortunate that I love to read. It has gotten me through some of the toughest times in my life.

I have rented a house in the northern Highlands - this is the part I call "my Scotland". It is the Highlands that truly call to my soul. Not sure "what" is calling me but something is. I do have a huge interest in the Templars and especially those who settled in Scotland. Maybe that is the connection...again, not sure. I'm sure time will tell, though.

Re: the Cathars. There is clearly something working with me, too. I am reading a book I bought at Rosslyn Chapel, Rosslyn, Scotland,. It is about the Templars but has a section on the Cathars. As reading this section, I thinking Holy Smokes, I fundamentally have similar beliefs. I now need to read how they connect to the Templars. I will keep you posted. FYI: the book is The Head of God: The Lost Treasure of the Tempars by Keith Laidler.

Interestingly enough I agree that somehow the Templars, Cathars, Jesus, Sir William Wallace AND Robert the Bruce all tie together. And I am beginning to think that the Druids and the Culdees may have a hand in it, too.

If you get a chance, will you take a look at my post called "Tears" in Universal Codes. One of the events I'm referring to happened to me in the Scottish Highlands at a church which predates Christ.

posted April 29, 2003 06:55 AM           

Sanat Kumara is the Ascended Master whom resides in Shambhalla.....

Books by Alice Bailey are great studies about Shambhalla.

Check out the esoteric links section too!!

posted April 30, 2003 06:41 PM           

Quinnie, I love your idea of my "Tears" being a sign of a future discovery calling me. You have touched the adventuresome part of my soul!

What brought me to those places? The Cathars (which is why I responded here). I had started a thread about The Cathars and right before I went to Scotland Donna posted a website. I read the website material on the plane over to Scotland. The second day there I had planned to go north. While leaving my B&B that morning at the last minute I decided to go south and I ended up in Fortingall (my place of tears). So once again, it can be traced back to the Cathars AND I now see by following my gut I got another piece to "my puzzle". I agree with you...it is curiouser and curiouser!

Best. ALA

posted April 30, 2003 07:01 PM           

Back to the book" Entering the Circle"...

Yes, you are right about the Spirit Twins. Dr. Kharitidi does say they are the same thing as spirit guides, angels, etc.

posted May 02, 2003 12:27 AM         

All is indeed well.. just been a bit busy around the edges. Thanks for the good wishes!

Bring on the Soul discussion... that's when I'm at my happiest, talking about all things metaphysical!

Peace and Light...
A

posted May 04, 2003 12:35 PM           

I am glad all is well with you. This post may make you a very happy man as I am encouranging a metaphysical discussion!

I thought to broaden the discussion to include the real core of my issue - Undiagnosed Illnesses. As I see it the Soul discussion is just one part of the equation. Let me explain.

For the past 10 years I have been trying to find an answer to an Intuitive Truth for me...that there is a reason for ALL illnesses, an answer which may not yet be addressed by Western nor Eastern Medicines. I have no doubt my intuition is right now I'm just looking for proof. I have a sense I am to use the 'proof' to help people which could be why I am so focused on finding answers.

My research to date has already lead me to question if some illness and diseases could be caused by a "visiting" spirit/entity/energy. Was the Catholic Church correct about Possession and their Exorcisms? Anyway, when I read Dr. Kharitidi's book and she discusses her 2 causes for mind diseases I got a truth hit. Her conclusions were based on the Shaman belief that each disease has it's own spirit and this spirit can be communicated with to heal a person.

Her 2 mutually exclusive reasons were:

1) Their soul, or part of their soul, has been lost. This usually happens because their soul has been stolen from them but sometimes they may decide to unconsciously give it away, perhaps in exchange for something else they want.

2) They are overwhelmed and occupied by a foreign power.

That said, I also believe:

1) A Soul can CHOOSE to turn away from God because of
2) God's Gift of Free Will
3) I believe God is a Loving and Forgiving God . God would not abandon nor punish a Soul for its choice.
4) We need to experience the darkness to know/remember the Light
5) There are Lost Souls

My thoughts...Yes, I believe a soul can be lost. Do I believe a soul can be stolen? Not sure. Do I believe a soul can exchange part of their soul for something they want. Probably. Can they be overwhelmed and/or occupied by a foreign power? Hmmmm....not sure.

So I lay my case at your feet Aselzion and any other interested Knowflakes. Help me analyze this. Where and what is the truth here? When I get a hit from my Truth Detector it may mean all OR part of it is true. Thus, my intellectual journal for finding the whole truth.

posted May 04, 2003 08:30 PM         

What a well thought out and concise case you have there my friend.

As you do, I believe that all illnesses happen for a reason, and are not without cause on the spiritual/emotional level long before they manifest on a physical level.

I understand what you mean by a "truth hit"... as I have always had what I like to call my "BS detector". There's always that wee small voice that kind of lets you know what is Truth and what is not... at least at this moment in time. I think that we all run across things now and then that seem somehow not "right" here and now... but that take on a whole new appearance after the passing of some time and the gaining of some experience/wisdom. And of course, there are those things that will never "ring the bell of truth" for us.

In terms of lost Souls.. perhaps it is a matter of semantics. As I believe that all Souls are God in His/Her/Its multifold aspects of expression, I do not believe that any Soul can ever really BE Lost.

However, that would not preclude an individual Soul's experience of being Lost if that were what it Chose to experience.

Words are so inadequate to describe the nature of this concept.. but I hope that I am making sense at some level.

Possession... wow, that is a subject that has been presenting itself to me over and again in the past few weeks. I have some young students here that are "losing" a friend of theirs by his preoccupation with such things as demonic possession and black magic.

I cannot say that there is no truth to the experience... there have been too many well documented cases of such horrors to discount. However, I'm sure, like everything else in our universe (ONE verse), there is a logical and simple explanation.

At this point in time I can only offer my understanding, which is this:

1) There is no Devil but the one that we create by our Fears. I do not believe that there is anything in manifestation that can be the opposite or undoing of God.

2) By our (meaning the human race) belief in that entity, we give it power. When some humans worship that entity, and perform rites of sacrifice to that entity, it is given more power, and therefore more Life Force. As Linda has said in Star Signs, "What we mind matters!"

3) In terms of posession by demons... I just don't know. I do not believe that it can happen, unless at some level, the Soul in question invited or called that experience into being.

4) I'm not a pollyanna... I do believe that there are evil people, and evil entities out there (again, that we have somehow, in our race mind, created or called into being) that can perhaps attach themselves to us in a moment of weakness, or perhaps drug or alcohol altered states of consciousness.

So.. could an exorcism cure such a condition... without a doubt, but again, I think it would depend upon the faith of the individual possessed. That Soul would have to want to "come back" as it were for the exorcism to "work".

I think that's about as much as I can say on the matter at this point. Again, I feel that my words are inadequate to describe the concepts that we are trying to fathom. But, it is a beginning. Where do we go from here?

Bright Blessings in the Light...
A

posted May 07, 2003 10:02 PM           

Have your ever read M. Scott Peck's book People of the Lie? It's pretty interesting. I bring it up because Peck discusses possession and exorcism. I truly had not given either much thought until I read his book. He certainly got my curiosity up enough where I really would like to sit in on one (I think... and of course not my own!) Anyway, maybe this will give you some insight with or for your young students. FYI Peck says the only power evil has is through a human's belief in it and evil's lies. He further states that each exorcism was successful by a change of faith or value system that now he understands when a very wise man said "By your faith you have been healed". Hmmm. Sound slightly familiar?

Where do we go from here? I PROPOSE we 1) decide on a goal, 2) set objectives and 3) set ground rules. To get things rolling, I'll start.

Our Goal:

Find metaphysical cures for those diseases considered undiagnosed by traditional medicine

Further, I propose we reach our goal by:

1) using a case study
2) listing each possible metaphysical cause
Spirit Sickness (Shamanism) or Astrology Sickness (??? i.e. part of your chart??) or Possession (Catholicism), ETC.
3) offering respective cures

Ground Rules

We Agree on the following:

1) All illnesses happen for a reason
2) There could be a metaphysical reason and cure for the illness.
3) There is evil in the world and we give it power when we fear it, worship it or perform rites of sacrifice.
4) We have complete control over evil.
5) We have yet to decide on the validity of possession by demons, aliens or other foreign powers
6) There are lost Souls and we defined a lost Soul as one who chooses to turn from God but that the Sould has the option of returning whenever the Soul chooses
7) We table our discussion on the origins of Evil. Although this is a worthy discussion and one I would like to continue at a later date, I don't won't to get sidetracked. Further, I think if we agree evil and dark energies do exist that is all we need for this discussion.

I don't ask for much do I? Do you think this is doable? Have I interpreted your comments correctly and what do you think of my proposal?

posted May 17, 2003 10:53 AM           

I believe I have another item to add to our list of potential causes for Undiagnosed Illnesses: Free Will i.e. Ourselves.

I have been reading Marie Colrelli's book, The Life Everlasting: A Reality of Romance and she states that people can be ill due to their own fault. If a person starts his/her life in health he/she cannot be ill UNLESS through some fault of his/her own. It may be a moral or a physical fault, but the trespass against the law has been make.

What do you KNOWflakes think? Is she right? And if so, should this be added to our list to consider?

posted June 12, 2003 08:10 PM           

I would welcome and love to hear your comments about Dr. Kharitidi's book. Have you read her second one?

Funny you mentioned Caroline Myss...your question prompted what I call an ANGELtrack but most people call a cooincidence. Suffice to say, I am suppose to read that book next and, lucky me, it's in my personal library!

Women and madness, exorcisms, late 19th century history...I would love to hear your ideas. It's something I haven't pondered yet and I love digging into new theories.

Female "beautifiction" - another new interesting line of thought.

I'm happy to make your acquaintance, too, and look forward to reading your upcoming posts.