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Aphrodite
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posted September 04, 2003 12:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aphrodite     Edit/Delete Message
Thanks Aselzion.

I realized just now that the core energy of the Fool, symbolized by the number 0---lives on through the entire Major Arcana. Each card that comes after is a form of this energy manifested. The Fool is the magick of the form before Image takes place. 0 has no language, no context, no completely clearly defined meaning---because its possibilities are inifite!

The rest of the cards relay to us, the story of infinity.

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juniperb
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posted September 04, 2003 12:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for juniperb     Edit/Delete Message

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Aselzion
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posted September 05, 2003 09:26 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aselzion     Edit/Delete Message
Hi Mighty A...

I think that sums up a good bit of what the Fool is all about.

Tarot, particularly the Higher Arcana, has been described by one of my Teachers as a representation of Man's "Fall From Grace" and the Path back.

Good work!

Peace and Light...
A

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"It is only with the heart that one can see rightly; what is essential is invisible to the eye." - Antoine de Saint Exupery, The Little Prince

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Pink Angel
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posted September 07, 2003 01:58 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Pink Angel     Edit/Delete Message
The Fool is a young traveller who travels the journey of his life. in his life, he travels through the 21 cards and reaches the end, the universe where he realises all his dreams and ambitions.
we are all like the fool, we all deep down in our hearts have aspirations but many hurdles come in our way which waver us from our path. things like logic and practicality and material concerns force us to think differntly, and so our sixth sense, our intuition and our dream take a back seat.
whenever the fool appears in a card it means that there is a new beginning, that god has given you a golden opportunity which you have to grab and not let go.it is a card of optimism and as he looks up in the sky, chasing his dreams, he does not see that he could fall in the valley.
this does not show that he is careless..
The major percentage of the world think that the fool is indeed a fool, a crazy Uranus ruled idiot.. but he is the wisest of the lot as he has tied up his wisdom in his cute bag and only he knows that he is wise.
The fool is an ordinary traveller who believes in himself and nothing else. he does not see logic as a criteria for introspection. he is a typical Aquarian or a Saggitarian boy, full of zest and energy.
He carries a white rose which symbolises his freedom loving nature.the fool doesnt like to be bogged down.he is an innocent child with stars in his eyes.
the kind of child people are jealous of, people think how can he be so carefree and irresponsible? and not worry about the troubles that he is going to face? how can he face the big bad world all by himself?
But the fool has his faithful companion, the white dog which believes in him.
Linda Goodman has said that god loves us the way a dog loves a human, very unconditionally and loyally.
So, with God by his side, and his optimism in tow, the fool, a boy of intuition knows that come what may he will emerge victorious.

From a spiritual point of view, the fool is a time when you start developing intuition.
you get visions and a force drags you towards itself.
It is a time when the cells of your body get renewed.It is a time in your life when the path to enlightenment seems just a few steps away and everything seems crystal clear with no obstacles in sight.it is a time to look within and examine yourself, and realise what you were born for-not material burdens but for self fulfillment.
the fool takes values and honesty seriously but has a great sense of humour.
nothing can harm him no matter what he does, because god loves children and the child in him will always shine through.

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juniperb
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posted September 07, 2003 09:15 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for juniperb     Edit/Delete Message
PinkAngel, that is lovely

I so love reading all the Fools attributes.

juniperb

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Pink Angel
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posted September 07, 2003 04:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Pink Angel     Edit/Delete Message
Hi juni........
Listen, i have this book, actually it came with the Mythic Tarot Deck, but it doesnt talk about the cards individually as how we have written...
its basically a greek mythological story and the 1st chapter is the fool, the son of Zeus
and the story could have hidden meanings and interpretations if we look deeply.
so, should i write down the chapter number one? and go on writing the next chapters as we cover up the other cards of the major arcana??

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Aselzion
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posted September 07, 2003 05:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aselzion     Edit/Delete Message
Hi there Pink Angel...

Personally, I'd prefer that we come up with our own intuitive hits rather than taking something verbatim from another source.

If you wanted to post something brief about the mythology that would be appropriate, but I'm trying to foster a "look at the card and see what it says to YOU" approach to learning the cards. Additionally, The Mythological Tarot is but one of many decks available on the market, and reflects the particular bias of that decks authors, which may or may not correlate with the decks that we are using.

Thank you for the offer though. If you wanted to post Mythological Tarot information in another thread, as an additional source, I think that would be appropriate.

In the Light..
A

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"It is only with the heart that one can see rightly; what is essential is invisible to the eye." - Antoine de Saint Exupery, The Little Prince

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SerenityRose
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posted September 23, 2003 09:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SerenityRose     Edit/Delete Message
Ok!

Yay! Here I come. Let me share with you guys what I feel when I see the Fool, and how I interpret it.

First of all, I'm basing my description on the Rider-Waite deck, since it's the one I currently have (my Sacred Circle deck should be here in like 15 days! YAY!!!!).

So... we see this young man, clearly starting on a journey. He's got his pack on his back and seems happy and glad to be able to be on this journey, but he's totally unaware of the cliff in front of him. The day's bright with the sun, but if we look on the background, there are snowy mountains.

Interesting enough, the snowy mountains were the first thing I've noticed on the card when studying it. Sunny, but snowy? I remember there was an exercise I had to do that made us guess the meaning of each card by looking at them (10 cards, I got all 10 right! LOL There must be a connection or so).

I see the fool as a start. But a rather naive start, that's how we are whenever we start something, in general! He's got everything he has in that pack, that would stand for, in my opinion, to all our knowledge about life and about ourselves. That's our pack. What we know about the world and about ourselves. But then, in every journey, there will be cliffs, and sometimes we don't realise it until we fall. That's what the cliff stands for to me, the problems we face in our lives, the problems we will probably face when starting something new.

Same for the snowy mountains/sunny day. The sunny day is the brightness of a new project, a new choice, whatever this choice is. But the snowy mountains are there to remind us that not everything is bright and shiny, and that more "snowy" days will probably come in this new journey.

I see the fool as a rather dual card, as it shows me the two sides of a new beginning. He's happy and sure of himself, but he can't see he's about to fall. It's a sunny day, but there are snowy mountains ahead.

I think the Fool is a great card! And I think that's what I have to say about it, I hope I've made myself clear!

Cheers!

SR

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Motherkonfessor
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posted October 07, 2003 08:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Motherkonfessor     Edit/Delete Message
Well, I am going to throw in my two cents on the Fool..and I promise its short, being that everyone has hit upon just about every esoteric/symbolic meaning possible.

I tend to read the cards thru instinct, even tho I did my time studying meanings, the Tree of Life, etc... I also tend to oversimplify because the people I read for are looking for lessons somewhat less arcane..
(and now that I have over-justified my stance)
Whenever I get the Fool, I realize that I must "take the leap" and start TRUSTING the Universe to provide. Especially when I have got major questions about what to do next.. the Fool forces me to get out of the logical mindset and put on thatfunny lopsided Uranus cap and start looking at the future

and jump off the cliff.

SO are we progressing on the Magician?
The Tarot is like a story of the hero (or heroine) quest, and the stages of life we go thru. Meeting the Magician is when you are given the tools you will need to proceed. it might be a burst of energy, a mentor, hey even a new thought or book that helps you manifest something in the physical world.

And I will stop the blather here now. Please dont feel you have to write out my whole name here, A.. just call me K.

later all.........

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Annie Kuzma
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posted October 08, 2003 06:32 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Annie Kuzma     Edit/Delete Message

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Peace and Love
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Aselzion
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posted October 09, 2003 01:42 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aselzion     Edit/Delete Message
Hi all...

Writing at work, so's I need to be quick, will devote more time later...

Annie... where did you get those BOTA tarot colorized GIFS?

Thanks so much!!!

You are a Goddess!

Blessed Be...
A

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"It is only with the heart that one can see rightly; what is essential is invisible to the eye." - Antoine de Saint Exupery, The Little Prince

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Annie Kuzma
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posted October 09, 2003 06:52 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Annie Kuzma     Edit/Delete Message
Hi Frater A!
I love your review of the cards you are sharing on here, and I thought it would be great to get everyone on the cards you were describing. What better ones than these!
I just went to the BOTA site, and right clicked and saved them.
They are in the Highlights of Tarot area!

Hope it helps!


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Peace and Love
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Randall
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posted October 10, 2003 02:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message

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"Never mentally imagine for another that which you would not want to experience for yourself, since the mental image you send out inevitably comes back to you." Rebecca Clark

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Xelena Ben
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posted October 10, 2003 11:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Xelena Ben     Edit/Delete Message
I haven't posted in a while but this thread caught my eye because I've been ruminating on the Fool lately (actually for years).

Aselzion, I first wanted to ask you if there is any connection with this image and the story of Tobias in the Apocrypha (if you think there is I'd like to discuss that somewhere). I also read somewhere a hypothesis that this ancient story comes down to us from a culture where dogs were thought to be soul guides - or something like that. I'll try to find my source. Do you know anything of this?

For the past ten years or so I've been in near constant transition (maybe that's just what lbeing an adult is all about!), so the symbolism of the Fool has come to be a beacon for me, a reminder not to cave in to worry and limiting thoughts. The theme of a journey in this image resonates with me, too.

And I have to admit, I always think of Indiana Jones walking off that precipice into certain death, but he finds that there really is a bridge where he steps and so his test of faith is passed. Yah, I grew up in the eighties :-)

I also use runes for personal divination, and the blank rune of Odin I assume would be the Nordic equivalent of the Fool. This rune signifies also the Void, and so unlimited potential - All that is. Odin is also the Hanged Man, and I thought I read somewhere that this is actually the same character as the Fool??? Maybe not.

I also think this Fool is smarter than he looks (or is that projection on my part!?!) - sort of the wise jester who acts "the fool", but in reality only chooses to play this part because of the freedom that comes with others having no expectations of you. What do they say, "the wise man admits he knows nothing"?

To me the bag is the physical traits we are born into, and also our collected karma, that we carry with us, sort through, utilize for the useful experiences... And I wonder about the significance of the staff as perhaps some sort of "rod of power" - a la Moses - kind of thing (cleverly disguised as a walking stick...). I have a picture of the Fool from the Marseilles deck, and there is no rose, no mountains, no sun - just the man and his dog - and the Fool's head is turned almost backwards at an awkward angle (as he approaches the edge). And he is not a youth like in the deck you're using (Rider-Waite?). It's almost appalling that the cards can change so much! But I guess divination should be above all that in the long run.

In Japanese Buddhism a similar concept is encapsualted in the character "yume" which can tranlate as dream/illusion/shadow - in effect sunyata, the essence of impermanence. In other words, this material world that is only a fleeting dream of the All. Perhaps the Fool symbolizes the world of Maya, and like in the movie the Matrix, if we try not just to bend the spoon, but realize that there is no spoon, then a threshold has been crossed. I think the Fool knows there is no spoon.

To me this is the ultimate image of the Creator living through its creation. The Fool is a vehicle for Spirit to know itself, and so the cliff is not a potential pitfall at all, rather the unfathomable potential that comes when we have faith enough to open ourselves completely to a higher presence. An apt card indeed for both beginning and end.

I also think it is the most difficult card to live.

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Randall
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posted October 11, 2003 02:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message
Welcome back, XB!

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Randall
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posted October 12, 2003 01:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message
Great observations, by the way.

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"Never mentally imagine for another that which you would not want to experience for yourself, since the mental image you send out inevitably comes back to you." Rebecca Clark

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Randall
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posted October 22, 2003 01:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message
What's after The Fool?

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"Never mentally imagine for another that which you would not want to experience for yourself, since the mental image you send out inevitably comes back to you." Rebecca Clark

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Randall
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posted November 06, 2003 03:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message
To the top!

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Aselzion
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posted November 07, 2003 02:24 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aselzion     Edit/Delete Message
Hey Randall...

Sorry... missed that post.

The Magician and the Aces are after the Fool!

Peace and blesings..
A

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"Aum bhoor buvah svaha
Tat savitur varenyam
Bhargo devasaya dheemahi
Dhiyo yo naha prachodayat." ****Gayatri Mantra****

"We meditate on the glory of the Creator
Who has created the Universe;
Who is worthy of worship;
Who is the embodiment of Knowledge and Light;
Who is the remover of Sin and Ignorance;
May He enlighten our intellect."

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posted January 18, 2004 12:26 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aselzion     Edit/Delete Message
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Aselzion
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posted January 18, 2004 12:27 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aselzion     Edit/Delete Message
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Aselzion
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posted February 19, 2004 08:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aselzion     Edit/Delete Message
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Aselzion
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posted September 19, 2004 03:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aselzion     Edit/Delete Message
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Aselzion
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posted May 31, 2005 10:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aselzion     Edit/Delete Message
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posted September 20, 2005 12:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message
*bump*

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