posted August 09, 2003 01:40 PM         

I read through an old thread on the English Cabala (or however you chose to spell it) and noticed a lot of discussion about the number 11. Once I heard about something called the God Number. The Number is 1123581347 or 112358134711, depending where you want to stop. This is a very interesting number. To get it, start with 1. Add each number to the one before it to get the next number. Since there is nothing before 1, 0+1=1, the next number. 1+1=2, then 2+1=3, then 3+2=5, then 5+3=8, then 8+5=13, then 1+3=4, then 4+3=7, then 7+4=11 and the whole thing repeats. Have I explained this adequately? Anyway, it is a very amazing number that seems to contain some messages. For one thing, as you see, it begins with 11 and goes on for ever. If you add up just the first series (1123581347), you get 8 (The number of eternity, etc. I'm sure I don't need to go into all that with you guys.) If you allow the 11 to repeat at the end, you get 10. Also a very magical number, as you know. I am familiar with the Kabbala, the Tree of Life, Gematria, Tarot ad infinitum and since I have been contemplating this "God Number", I've had some really great connections come about. I was just wondering if anyone else ever heard about this number or has any comments on it.

posted August 09, 2003 03:36 PM         

Welcome FishKitten... Pisces with Leo something?

At any rate... the God number we were talking about was 26, the value of Yod-Heh-Vav-Heh, and other assorted English words or symbols that equate to that number.

The number that you speak of.. isn't that a part of the Fibonnacci series? That series of numbers that approximates the Golden Mean or Phi Ratio = 1.618034

My first teacher in Astrology talked alot about Pi and Phi. I have since read more about them in the books on The English Cabala and also the Secret Teachings of The Flower of Life books by Drunvalo Melchizedek.

At any rate... welcome to LindaLand and my little corner of it here. Please feel free to add any commentary or observations, sounds like you are pretty well versed in esoteric doctrines, and I always like to hear another viewpoint!

In the Light...
A

posted August 09, 2003 05:17 PM         

I knew that you guys were talking about the number 26, but thought it interesting that 1123581347 also adds up to 8, though through the 35 vibration, not the 26. I'd forgotten where I heard about the number, but I do think its from the Fibonnacci series, now that you've reminded me. I'll think about it some more and it will come back to me. I really like that the whole thing starts and ends with 11, which makes it begin all over. 1 and 1 starting a never ending cycle that always comes back to 1 and 1.

posted August 09, 2003 09:52 PM         

I also have Sun Mercury and Venus in Pisces, Leo Ascendant and Pluto conjunct Asc. But my Moon is Sag. What's your DOB?

posted December 11, 2003 01:25 PM         

Phi... a number related to FORM and beauty.

Phi = 1.618034 approximately

Pi... it's sister number, I believe, is more related to function.

Pi = 3.14159265 give or take

The Pentagram is a great illustration of Phi in action, and the symmetry and beauty it creates. I find the Pentagram/Pentacle to be a fascinating and well balanced tool for meditation and contemplation/elation, as Linda might say.

Give it a go and let me know what you think...

In the Light...
A

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"Aum bhoor buvah svaha
Tat savitur varenyam
Bhargo devasaya dheemahi
Dhiyo yo naha prachodayat." ****Gayatri Mantra****

posted December 16, 2003 07:26 PM         

Here's one for all you knowflakes with a mind for Math Magic to ponder...

One thing that popped into my head when I looked at it was that Tarot and Astrology are more interconnected than I may have thought.

Has anyone noticed what happens if you add up the numbers from 1 - 12 inclusive?

1+2+3+4+5+6+7+8+9+10+11+12 = 78

For any budding Qabalists, that process is called finding the Theosophical Extension of a number. For example if you wanted to know the Theosophical Extension of 4:

1+2+3+4 = 10

As all astrologers know, there are 12 signs in the Zodiac, associated with the 12 Houses of a Horoscope Wheel. There are 78 cards in the Tarot deck. Hmmm!

As I have pointed out before, there are 22 cards in the Higher Arcana of the Tarot, and when you divide that by 7, the number of ancient planets, it produces a very close approximation of Pi.

22/7 = 3.14(2857)repeating

I find this rather intriguing. Any thoughts?

Happy Spiraling...

A

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"Aum bhoor buvah svaha
Tat savitur varenyam
Bhargo devasaya dheemahi
Dhiyo yo naha prachodayat." ****Gayatri Mantra****

posted December 17, 2003 05:52 PM         

phi is good at predicting growth in the natural world.

i think dividing the major arcana into the number of ancient planets is reading in a bit too much between story and mathematics.

posted December 18, 2003 12:48 AM         

Mighty A...

I'm not so sure I'm reading into something or just observing what is already there. There are 22 Higher Arcana symbols in the Tarot, and at the time the Tarot was created there were 7 planets visible to the observers at that time.

As above So Below... one of the great Hermetic Principles. As within, so without. And as I have said elsewhere... "Omnia in numeris sita sunt" - everything lies veiled in numbers.

But I don't believe in coincidence, only Law that we don't recognize as such. Perhaps it's time to revisit the thread about the Kybalion?

It all speaks to my Inner Ear as a more intimate connection between Astrology and Tarot than I had first thought.

Prior to the discovery/recovery of the outer planets we had this scheme to work with for Tarot and Astrology:

0 Fool = Air (Mother Letter A in Hebraic alphabet)
1 Magician = Mercury
2 High Priestess = Moon
3 Empress = Venus
4 Emperor = Aries
5 Hierophant = Taurus
6 Lovers = Gemini
7 Chariot = Cancer
8 Strength = Leo
9 Hermit = Virgo
10 Wheel of Fortune = Jupiter
11 Justice = Libra
12 Hanged Man = Water (Mother letter M of Hebraic alphabet)
13Death = Scorpio
14 Tempreance = Sagittarius
15 Devil = Capricorn
16 Tower = Mars
17 Star = Aquarius
18 Moon = Pisces
19 Sun = Sun
20 Judgment = Fire ( Mother Letter Sh in Hebraic alphabet)
21 World = Saturn

In this scheme Earth as an element is not represented as the Qabalists felt that Malkuth, the Kingdom was the Physical Earth that we dwelt on. Also the Qabalists believed that Earth was formed or condensed by the other 3 elements.

Each Higher Arcana was attributed to one of the 22 letter of the Hebraic alphabet.

The 3 Mother letters: Aleph, Mem and Shin assigned to the elements.
The 7 Double letters that were assigned to the planets.
The 12 Single letters, allocated to the signs.

The Single letters have only one pronunciation. The Doubles have both a soft and a hard sound, hence double.

So is it a stretch, well I don't believe so, but I'm not all that much for science!

In the Light...
A

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"Aum bhoor buvah svaha
Tat savitur varenyam
Bhargo devasaya dheemahi
Dhiyo yo naha prachodayat." ****Gayatri Mantra****

posted January 11, 2004 03:10 AM         

Mighty A... if you think I was reading between the lines by dividing the 22 Higher Arcana by the 7 ancient planets... wait til you see this bit of spiraling.

The Cardinal Signs: 1+4+7+10 = 22 = the number of Higher Arcana Cards as well as the number of Hebrew Letters.

The Fixed Signs: 2+5+8+11 = 26 = the value of the 4 lettered Hebrew name for GOD IHVH often transliterated as Jehova. 26 is also the number of letters in the English alphabet. Hrmmm.

The Mutable Signs: 3+6+9+12 = 30. This is the number of degrees in each sign of the Circle of Life. There is another significance, but I am going to keep it a secret for a wee bit, as it has something to do with the Mystery of Libra, the only inanimate sign in the Zodiac.

Now the fun begins!

22+26+30 = 78 The full number of cards in the Tarot deck; as well as the numeration of the signs from Aries thru Pisces, as mentioned in a post above.

We know that there are 22 Higher Arcana cards, which I say correlate to the Cardinal Signs, so that would leave 78-22 = 56. Yes? Yes!

If we add the 26 (Fixed Signs) to the 30 (Mutable Signs) we get 56, the number of Lower Arcana cards.

If we add the 22 (Cardinal Signs) to the 30 (Mutable Signs) we get 52. This would be the number of cards in a regular deck of playing cards. It is also the number of weeks it takes for the Sun to make one revolution through the wheel of the Zodiac.

And so the spiraling goes on and on...

Bright Blessings...
A

P.S. If anyone gets persnickety about me not mentioning the last permutation: if we add the 22(Cardinal) to the 26 (Fixed) we get 48. 4+8= 12, and I think that is fairly self explanatory.

P.P.S. I'll have to spiral on the number 48 and see what the Qabalah has to tell me about that.

posted January 11, 2004 01:16 PM         

Well, I think in addition to the 22 Higher Arcana falling on the Paths that connect the Sephiroth, they also fall within the Sephiroth themselves.

In this case, The Fool, numbered 0, is associated with Ain Soph Aur, the Limitless Light, one of the 3 veils of negative existence before the first emanation which is Kether.

The cards from the Magican to the Wheel of Fortune fall into the numbered Sephiroth from 1-10. Then the Wheel moves back into position in Kether for the next cycle bringing us to The Sun in Malkuth. The final cycle sees The Sun back in Kether and ends with The World (Saturn's card) in the 3rd Sephiroth, Binah, which is also associated with Saturn.

It's just kind of another way of looking at the pattern, but enlightening I feel.

Hope this helps a bit.

In the Light...
A

posted April 05, 2008 12:21 PM         

"The number that you speak of.. isn't that a part of the Fibonnacci series? That series of numbers that approximates the Golden Mean or Phi Ratio = 1.618034"

The Fibonacci number series is very similar. It progresses like this:
1,1,2,3,5,8,13,21,34,55,89... Instead of adding the previous digit, you add the previous number.

I think it is very interesting how both ways of adding produces an effect. One pattern always bring you back to the master number 11 and the Fibonacci series represents the Golden Mean or Phi Ratio that we see repeated in nature so beautifully.