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Aselzion
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posted November 20, 2004 05:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aselzion     Edit/Delete Message
Greetings...

I have to admit that I was a wee bit tired when I actually watched Joan last night... I was out with friends most of the day and didn't watch Joan til about 10:30pm.

Thank Goddess for TiVo. I'll have another look when I'm more awake!

In the Light...
A

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posted November 21, 2004 11:59 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for StarLover33     Edit/Delete Message
Aselzion and Randall,

I don't know if I fully buy into that theory. I think there are events which are out of our control. There are events that were meant to happen even before we were born. I think the only time we use our Free Will Tinker Toys is when we REACT to a situation. All events are NEUTRAL, but it is the VALUE we place on it that makes it POSITIVE or NEGATIVE.

I think I can only choose to be happy or sad, I can choose to learn or not to learn, and that can change my perspective which in turn MIGHT create a new set of events. Yet even then, I don't think we have total control because our Higher Selves know better than we do, and we haven't proven worthy to attain that level of being in charge.

Even Linda believed what happened to her and Robert Brewer was predestined many eons before. Certain relationships are just meant to come into your life. You know? Afterall, if we're not in tune with our Higher Selves, then aren't we just puppets? I would say so! I don't think any of us have cut those strings yet.

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posted November 21, 2004 12:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for StarLover33     Edit/Delete Message
I think our stories have already been written; however, like a play or a novel we can certainly change a few lines or scenes we may not like. In the end, I think it's still up to our Higher Selves. Afterall, we are our Higher Selves so we do control. I think Free Will and Destiny interchange with one another!

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posted November 21, 2004 12:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message
On a grander scale, do we not choose everything before each lifetime? Would not all of these previously agreed-upon Karmic ties and agreements still reflect our free-will on a superconscious level? And then we use our free-will tinker toys to mess everything up.

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posted November 21, 2004 01:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for StarLover33     Edit/Delete Message
Agreed. You sum up everything better than I do Randall.

-StarLover

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posted November 21, 2004 01:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aselzion     Edit/Delete Message
Greetings...

Well said... both of you.

I am of the opinion that we are all aspects of God, here in Physical Reality (or is it all that Real) to have experiences.. and to experience Who We Really Are.

Are some things Fated? It would appear that way... but as we have mentioned before, the Free Will or Conscious Creation, is always above that "fated" level. If we change a small piece here, may we not change an entire timeline?

Star.. you are wise for one so young in chronological age... keep thinking "outside the box" as it were and you will go a long way! Yes!! One thing that we CAN change is our reaction to events and relationships, this is true. Rather, TRUE!

As Randall suggested, I believe that we agree to re-connect with certain people in each "lifetime" in order to accomplish some goal or to have some experience.

I think it's kind of cool to "Realize" that we aren't in this mess alone, and that we have "friends" to count on. Even more fun sometimes is to raise above that thought and become aware that We Are All ONE. That sure can make the human brain dizzy!

In the Light...
A

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posted November 22, 2004 01:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message
Well-said.

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posted November 23, 2004 10:35 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message
Supposed to be another great episode of Joan Friday.

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posted November 24, 2004 05:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message
Starlover:

One ship sails east and another west while the self-same breezes blow,
'Tis the set of the sail and not the gale that bids them where they go.
As the winds of the air are the ways of fate as we voyage along through life,
'Tis the set of the soul that decides our goal and not the storm and strife.
--Ella Wheeler Wilcox

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posted November 24, 2004 10:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for StarLover33     Edit/Delete Message
That was beautiful. Happy Thanksgiving Randall.

-StarLover

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posted November 24, 2004 10:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message
Gobble, gobble!

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posted November 25, 2004 09:21 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message
Six Trump hopefuls left, and tonight one gains exemption and automatically goes into the final four.

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posted November 25, 2004 12:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for StarLover33     Edit/Delete Message
I'm hoping either Andy or Kelly. I thought it was pretty bad that Jennifer got all the credit she didn't deserve!

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posted November 26, 2004 01:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message
I think it weill be Kevin and Kelly.

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posted November 26, 2004 03:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for StarLover33     Edit/Delete Message
Ivanna is the most creative person there. Jenn and Sandy were vicious, but could you have blamed Sandy? Andy will be sorely missed. Him and Raj, awww, why!?! Anyway Kelly will probably win.

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posted November 26, 2004 03:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for StarLover33     Edit/Delete Message
It's always the boring yet stable guys that win in the end.


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posted November 27, 2004 08:30 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message
I didn't care much for this episode of Joan. I thought it lacked depth. God's comment on the different religions was good, though.

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posted November 28, 2004 10:15 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message
Star, did you see near the end when Andy was in the limousine saying that he couldn't believe he just got fired on national tv and that he will never get another job again? Then the limousine driver turned around and said, "Yes, you will." It was Raj.

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posted November 28, 2004 09:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for StarLover33     Edit/Delete Message
Yep, I saw that. I loved it.

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posted November 29, 2004 10:34 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message
I guess Ivana will be going home soon. Just a matter of time for her.

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posted November 29, 2004 02:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aselzion     Edit/Delete Message
Greetings...

As to Joan (I can't comment on the Trump thing, never watch...) I thought, as always that the writers and ensemble took the Path of least resistence in the matter.

How can God justify death to anyones satisfaction? I think that stating that there are way more questions than answers was heading in the right direction. And I think that some of the most poignant moments in this episode came in Graces speech apres bat mitvah, and in the Jewish lady (God's) words to Joan...

"What if she had never lived at all?"

And here I paraphrase badly, "What if knowing you gave her a few more good days than she ever thought she'd have?" Or words to that effect.

We don't have the answers to death.. but maybe we aren't asking the right questions, as the Jewish lady God also pointed out to Joan.

Have to admit.. it did manage to get me all misty eyed again. Maybe I'm just having a bad transit?

In the Light...
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posted November 29, 2004 05:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for neostar     Edit/Delete Message
You knowlfakes talking about Joan of Arcadia?

I've never seen it but it's on Wednesday night, I wouldn't have realized to watch it unless it was mentioned by you folks...
(I don't normally pay much attention to Tv)-- but I may learn something from this, your converstations are very interesting!!-thanks



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posted November 30, 2004 01:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aselzion     Edit/Delete Message
Greetings...

Yes, we're talking about Joan of Arcadia and I think there's also a side discussion about The Apprentice, that Donald Trump reality (???) show.

Feel free to chime on in at any time, and welcome.

In the Light...
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posted November 30, 2004 06:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for neostar     Edit/Delete Message
Thanks Aselzion!
Nice to meet you

I read somewhere you knew Linda? How lovely!

I'm going to watch JOA tonight.

I've seen the apprentice show a couple of times, has made me chuckle, but didn't really hold my interest.

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posted November 30, 2004 06:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message
How do you get to see it on Tuesday? We watch it here on Friday.

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