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hannaramaa
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posted July 19, 2014 05:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hannaramaa     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I drew five cards for this and got

The lovers
8 of wands RX
3 of cups
The magician
9 of swords RX.

The lovers fit to me, 3 of cups fits, and even I can intuit the 9 of swords RX and someone who would relax afterwards, but the 8 of wands RX and the magician stump me in this regard. I feel like maybe 5 cards were too many for this but it feels like cheating to re-draw.

The question was to describe her next sexual partner. Obviously with the lovers its someone she's meant to be with, no? And then I saw maybe the 8 of wands as saying they'd be a jealous person too. Or does it mean they argue a lot?

What would you take the spread to mean? If not the whole spread then the 8 of Wands RX in this context?

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posted July 20, 2014 04:36 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for VenusDiSirius     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
8/W is regulation. (if anything, I find it to work) Add 8/W Rx to Lovers and yeah, I could see him as insatiable, problematic even.

3/C + Magician - not from the same circles, or close company but certainly the same clique = there's a social aspect to the way they'll meet or something but it's not as close knit as friendship. This could point to him being very popular. Maybe his job? Party planner.

9/S - maybe an anxious mister. Or insecure beneath his capable facade.

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posted July 20, 2014 04:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I thought that was such a cool idea, so I borrowed your question for myself, drawing 5 cards:


Hierophant
Wheel of Fortune
Magician
Fool
7 of wands


What are the odds to draw 4 majors?

Not sure what to make of this. lol

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posted July 20, 2014 05:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for littlecloud     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by VenusDiSirius:
8/W is regulation. (if anything, I find it to work) Add 8/W Rx to Lovers and yeah, I could see him as insatiable, problematic even.



Regulation? Not sure I've ever heard of it that way, can you explain some more?

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posted July 20, 2014 05:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
If 8 of wands is quick movement, does he get slowed down with the rx version?


And yes, never heard of it as "regulation" either. What dos it mean?

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posted July 20, 2014 07:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for VenusDiSirius     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Borrowed it from a booklet on Tarot de Marseille.

Depending on how you read the Wands "story" ie whether you start to read it with the Ace or the King (the pure potential (Ace) vs the mastered potential (King) OR the mundane (King) vs the spiritual (Ace)) - we have:

7 of Wands - 8 of Wands - 9 of Wands OR

9 of Wands - 8 of Wands - 7 of Wands

Read ^ how you will, it makes no sense for 8 to be quick movement, and gawd did I try to incorporate that. That's not even in the nature of number 8. How does that swiftness of action connect 7 and 9 (or 9 and7) ? Is it a some kind of manoeuvre that brings the battling person of 7/W to the status of some kind of respite: injured but having won thier battle?

Or is this an "intervention" (2 sets of 4 rods!), a regulative form? Is it a military form? Some kind of authority (we're talking about 8 after all)? Where are the people of this card? It brings about the image of unseen, omnipotent presence, this vacant 8/W of ours...

Of course, I took into consideration the creative licence - but I've figured, we're dealing with symbolism in Tarot and I just can't dismiss* a certain imagery on the basis that the artist chose a more convenient route ie that they drew 8 of Wands in form of 2+4 (stability and foundation, the Emperor values) because it looks better. Just like I can't dismiss the 5 wands in 6/W or the one cup being offered in 4/C or 6/C.


I've also used meanings like "fast news"/love on the horizon for 8/W.

I'd tend to agree that the (re)action in 8/W is immediate but I don't think that falls under quick movement.

ETA : Maybe 8/W is Deus ex Machina?? (hope this is an original thought, heh) It would fit nicely to the suit of Wands, next to the symbolism of no. 8;


* not that I don't want to. I can diss them cards. Totes!


ETA no.2 - the early depictions of 8/W are made of 2 set of 4 rods, but I've seen plenty of 4 rods + 2 rods + 2of rods. (so, naturally, we could frisky the story of 2 of Wands as well... ) And now, I am really going to bed.

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posted July 20, 2014 09:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hannaramaa     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
That all sounds cool but...I'm still confused how that related to my spread 😭

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posted July 20, 2014 10:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hannaramaa     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
I thought that was such a cool idea, so I borrowed your question for myself, drawing 5 cards:


Hierophant
Wheel of Fortune
Magician
Fool
7 of wands


What are the odds to draw 4 majors?

Not sure what to make of this. lol


Majors making up the majority of a reading mean there's karmic lessons involved and/or fate.

With your draw, I would say they're independent and used to leading. Notice the vibe when you put the Magician and Hierophant together? Both require an audience (hmmm sound like anyone Ceridwen?) Both are masters of their profession. They don't look to other people, people look *to them*.

It becomes even more in sync when you relate the nature of the Wheel, actually ruled by Sagittarius, to the nature of The Fool who's sign is Aries. < not especially significant but it backs up my theory that the Magi and Hiero belong together. This person is easy going and goes where the wind blows. It's possible they travel a lot and have a nice, positive vibe about them.

At the end, the 7 of Wands speaks of resistance. Since its a minor card I'm thinking this may be what they're into sexually or they are perhaps unavailable at this time.

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posted July 21, 2014 03:55 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for VenusDiSirius     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by hannaramaa:
That all sounds cool but...I'm still confused how that related to my spread 😭

It's a convo. Roll with it.

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posted July 21, 2014 01:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hannaramaa     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hahaha, I was! I didn't mean that it was off topic, I meant I still didn't understand what 'regulation' was.

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posted July 21, 2014 02:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for VenusDiSirius     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
When something happens to the guy in 7 of Pentacles and he ends up the way he ends up in 9 of Pentacles. He met... Law, rules, Karma, other people quietly intervening etc

Regulation as in the act of regulating, fits the narrative nicely. Or I make it nice.

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posted August 01, 2014 11:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for littlecloud     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Venus, would you see a condom breaking as de-regulation? What about a lack of orgasm?

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posted August 04, 2014 04:42 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for VenusDiSirius     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Creative! Creative. I like it. Maybe no orgasm would be a reversed 8/W, or depending on the rest of the spread.

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posted August 04, 2014 05:46 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jessica2407     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Taking his time, an unhurried sexual partner, either to make the pleasure lasts as long as he possibly can or someone who takes his time to get to the point of sexual intimacy, which I would interpret as such.

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posted August 04, 2014 05:53 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jessica2407     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
okay I took your Q Hanna and drew 5 cards

The person with whom I will have sexual relations with.

7 of wands
knight of cups
High Priestess
Wheel of Fortune
Page of pentacles
10 of cups

hmmmm

I don't know what to make of these cards!

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