posted July 31, 2014 07:17 AM            

Ever done it? Feels a bit like cheating, right?

Had my Venus return yesterday (too snazzy to be missed) and pried into the future (I know, just bear with me) of tPluto oppo nVenus which will be talking place early next year. Venus rules H1 and H8 and the last time I had a hard Pluto transit, things got serious. Similar happenings were en force when pVenus squared nPluto.

Shizz got obsessive and monetary and biting! This time:

7 of Swords - 9 of Pentacles - Death (oh, the Scorpio card. Joy to the world!)

So, you understand my curiosity!

posted July 31, 2014 07:52 AM            

sa Venus conjunct n Moon, which starts about now. lol (well, august and then will peak next spring).

It takes place in my natal 2nd house, with Venus ruling the 5th, 6th and 10th house and Moon ruling the 8th house.

So I was wondering what this sa Venus= n Moon will bring me.

Queen of Cups - 3 of cups - 10 of pentacles.

Something nice I guess. lol

Also noticed that several interesting arcs and progressions and transits gather from february/ march to june next year. Was wondering what it is about, and lie in store for me.

6 of swords - Page of Wands - Strength

posted July 31, 2014 08:00 AM            

What i did not realize before was that THAT night our composite was experiencing a Venus Return!

So you mentioning yours made me curous about our "connected-Venus Return". What will it bring for our weird connection? Will it change anything? What? how?

You know these questions.

The spread well

lovers - 8 of wands - Tower.

Well I think one things`s for certain, this small step towards him probably DID change our connection more than I maybe was aware of; I am just not sure it really did the trick to "normalize" it and take out the pressure.
Did I unwittingly invite even MORE drama?
I mean seriously, the Tower?
It all comes crashing down. Like a stone.
Holy moly!

Total destruction, nullyifying of that connection? Or a restructuring, rebuilding to who knows what?

posted July 31, 2014 08:00 AM            

What i did not realize before was that THAT night our composite was experiencing a Venus Return!

So you mentioning yours made me curous about our "connected-Venus Return". What will it bring for our weird connection? Will it change anything? What? how?

You know these questions.

The spread well

lovers - 8 of wands - Tower.

Well I think one things`s for certain, this small step towards him probably DID change our connection more than I maybe was aware of; I am just not sure it really did the trick to "normalize" it and take out the pressure.
Did I unwittingly invite even MORE drama?
I mean seriously, the Tower?
It all comes crashing down. Like a stone.
Holy moly!

Total destruction, nullyifying of that connection? Or a restructuring, rebuilding to who knows what?

posted July 31, 2014 08:10 AM            

Personally I LOVED Tr Pluto on my Venus, the catharsis was immense, sure there was pain and drama mixed into this, but still never felt so alive.

Well I need to be careful of what I wish for.

Next solar return, startin in december, right in time with the Moon=Venus picture becoming serious, will see Venus on 9 Cap conjunct Pluto on 12 Cap (and of course this means that sr Venus will be conj my n Venus by 3 degrees and squaring my n Pluto, so maybe I will be in for more transformation than I will like after all. Yeah last time was relaly great, but who knows what THIS will bring?)

will also square Uranus in 7th (12 Aries) as ruler of 5th house.

Venus is widely sextile Moon on 4 Scorpio and Neptune on 4 Pisces.

Mercury on the Sun/Venus-mp, widely conj. both and actually on my ntal Sun/Venus as well.

Saturn on 29 Scorpio but weirdly unaspected, so he will not be much of a help to keep me back from whatever crazy idea I miht have.

hmm makes me want to check my Venus return, must be 3 days before. lol

posted July 31, 2014 08:30 AM            

Well actually it looks like the guy is using a bit of persuasion (see his hand?) and they are looking a little bit like they are debating with each other, but at least they are turned towards each other.

posted July 31, 2014 09:35 AM            

It takes place in my natal 2nd house, with Venus ruling the 5th, 6th and 10th house and Moon ruling the 8th house.

So I was wondering what this sa Venus= n Moon will bring me.

Queen of Cups - 3 of cups - 10 of pentacles.

Something nice I guess. lol"

You guess, huh?

OK, so we have the social aspect of Venus and the needs of Moon... In connection with those positive cards (positively filthy positive lol) they speak of inviting good times, and an easy progression from temporary fun to an established life style. You are out for something new, but realising in time that your socialising needs are deeply satisfactory and deciding you want your life to be like this from that moment on.
Maybe H2 is to enforce the marketable aspect of something that began effortlessly but gradually led to you owning it and using it in connection to your profession - you met a lot of new people, you know how to navigate them; people come to you because of your easy going, pleasant disposition because - she's Ceridwen, she's got connections! And all of this helps you to temper experiences into money (maybe it would be cool to check out what tJupiter does in your chart)
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On the Lovers card - yes, the man is persuasive. But, most importantly, he's wearing a WHITE SHIRT.

posted July 31, 2014 11:35 AM            

"maybe it would be cool to check out what tJupiter does in your chart)"

Oh T Jupiter is going to oppose my Moon (and sa Venus). let me check when exactly.

8th october 2014
10th february 2015
4th june 2015

posted July 31, 2014 12:50 PM            

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Originally posted by VenusDiSirius:

But, most importantly, he's wearing a WHITE SHIRT.

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Mr Sag was actually changing his shirt, for this song here.

posted August 01, 2014 01:50 AM            

oh you have venus in leo?? KEWL me too

I will my venus return on the 22nd August, almost one month after my birthday. There is a fun-fest gathering of planets happening in leo with the new moon that joined the party recently, tJupiter is dancing all over my stellium, and tvenus will be joining too of course,she will come to the the point of closest contact with my natal venus with only a few minutes difference on the 22nd August 2014.

I took out my tell-me-as-it-is deck and asked them to give me a perspective of how my life will change after this venus return.

6ow-Qow-2oc

posted August 01, 2014 04:49 AM            

This spread is sexual as they get. All you need is Devil. It looks like you're falling down into the Abyss of The Physical.

"you said things got serious with VEnus-Pluto for you, whta do you mean?Good serious or bad serious? Relationship or money or both?"

Both. I attracted romantically obsessive people (yes, plural) and I was "pushed" (circumstances and all that jazz) towards earning; suddenly, it was like the money was my priority, even though I've never been money driven. I've discovered my personal business acumen. And that culimated with Jupiter in trine to nPluto, and a few degrees later on with Jupiter on MC.

My Pluto is on H2 cusp, trining nVenus/MC. However, the tPluto triggering my Asc/Dsc axis, and Uranus over Dsc/Mars made me particularly antsy.

A serious, definite changes for me in those regards. It's big because it dragged me away from my priorities. I was... Kidnapped!

" Personally I LOVED Tr Pluto on my Venus, the catharsis was immense, sure there was pain and drama mixed into this, but still never felt so alive."

posted August 01, 2014 04:59 AM            

December will be big. (Pluto Sq Uranus) October too. See if the eclipse triggers something - tJupiter will be working, you've checked that.

"I seem to mostly relate to the Self-worth and validity aspect of it."

There's no marketability without self-worth.

"Mr Sag was actually changing his shirt, for this song here."

Infamy. *shakes fists*

posted August 01, 2014 05:09 AM            

Only semi-kewl. I have a Leo Venus by progression. Otherwise, it's Cancer Venus and moi. Hence, Venus of Sirius.

<6ow-Qow-2oc>

- feels like a significant surge in confidence and attraction. No wonder, though. August is bursting with Leo energy, as it should.

posted August 01, 2014 11:26 AM            

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Originally posted by Jessica2407:

6ow-Qow-2oc

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posted August 01, 2014 12:13 PM            

Yesterday I actually was feeling out of sorts, hit me just out of nothing, and I was drawing a card if he might be thinking of me, and I got the Devil. Again.

" It looks like you're falling down into the Abyss of The Physical. "
Yeah, well, my initial thought seeing this spread was: Hmm, do I need to seriously start thinking about precautions?

But it was the withces-tarot. This deck tends to the more DRAMATIC expressions of things.
maybe to the point of being theatrical. lol

Well so I was pulling some cards with my blunt RWS deck (just like Jessica did). Same question, just a second opinion you know?
Or not really a second opinion but a different expression of the answer (which I believe is the same, sort of a clarification spread).

Pulled:

Chariot - 10 of cups - Emperor

Well I do not like the Emperor in most spreads, he is so, I donīt know, controlling?

But this is certainly a much less sexual spread. Still 2 majors in it, and giving a vibe of determination somehow. Or control? Who is controlling whom? lol

Nevertheless it still seems like this was a significant step to take, and things are changing, though it certainly does not look like the romance-novel-cotton-candy-kind. lol
As if I could do anything with that sort of fluffiness!

Well, but maybe I wasn`t allowed to do the second spread at all, as I already had pulled three cards on the question, though from a diff. deck. But just because they seem so overly dramatic, it does not need to mean they were wrong. lol

"Both. I attracted romantically obsessive people (yes, plural)"
Ouch.

I mean of course it is flattering to be liked and if others are attracted to you, but I remember when I was in school myself I had 2 boys, no three, actually, following me around. At diff. times in my school-years.

One of them was obsessed with me for years. Did not do anything bad, jsut always looking at me with those puppy-dog eyes, and it took quite alot of diplomacy to keep him away from me. We had known each other since we were children, so going back a long while, and we were friends and I wanted to stay us just friends. Distant friends, as a matter of fact.

The second guy came later and he was, I donīt know, more pushy, and I mean that in a physical context. He did not quite drop hints, but glaring neon letters, always going on about my looks and such, and trying to manipulate me so I would literally fall into his lap. Did not quite work, I am not THAT stupid. But he was annoying. actually he later also annoyed another girl, to the point she actually claimed to be a Lesbian to get rid of him. Well did not work so well, I think he thought that was a turn on. What a creep! (he was the reason I quitted the Russian-course cause he was there).

And a third one I had a strange interaction with. We would always tease each other. Well him, me. Like cat and dog. lol
Underneath there was a lot of respect though and protectiveness. While he tried to control me or how I was expressing myself or whom I was friends with, he also was extremely protective of me, and I know that it is because of him that I was going unharmed out of some tight situations. (had something to do with drugs and me being MUCH too naive).
As I said it was strange, and there was a weird attraction, too. So it was not just stalking. But we would never have worked as anything else but sparringpartners. lol
He challenged me though, and on some level it drove me to despair as well as thrilled me.

Unfortunately he still wasn`t over it, when we met for a classmeeting 10 years after school. He still could not act normally around me. lol

Oh and then there was a fourth one, who did NOT stalk me, but somehow we were always ending up in similiar groups or whatever, and I really liked him, and he liked me, though it never led anywhere. He also was quite protective of me.

The reason I retell this is that it is just now I realize they were all Sagittarians! ALL FOUR OF THEM!
(shall we call that a theme in my life? )

The first guy who was following me around like a puppy (and bored me to death) actually shared the same birthday with me.
The "sparring-partner" was born a day after me (curiously sharing a birthday, though not year, with Mr Sag. lol)

But yes, it seems that I quite often get the attention of male Sags and Aquas (and in some weird occasions Cancers, do not quite know why though. I can`t do anything with them).

"I've discovered my personal business acumen. And that culimated with Jupiter in trine to nPluto, and a few degrees later on with Jupiter on MC."
Sounds great for income and success though.

" was... Kidnapped! "
LOL

When I was younger, I mean really young, teenager, I often would have daydreams about being kidnapped. Do not ask me where THAT came from! lol
I don`t particularly WANT to be kidnapped, but on the other hand it might be the only way to keep me planted at one place and taking away my tendency to go into avoidance mode. lol

posted August 02, 2014 06:28 AM            

quote:

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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
That looks REAL NICE. Successful, attracting and attracted. Very powerful. Sparkly, dazzling, and probably dazzling a very specific someone. Is there someone you have your sights on?

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It is nice, isn't it? Coherent. Unlike my Venus Return -

Justice - Page of Cups - 10 of Cups

Well, those who haven't had Justice in a spread concerning venusian themes, they just simply don't know what's fun.

posted August 02, 2014 06:43 AM            

Oh, I bet Devil giggles at you guys, as well.

"Well I do not like the Emperor in most spreads, he is so, I donīt know, controlling?"

I too tent to recoil from the romantic spreads where Emperor shows up - Ain't worth it. So freaking suffocating.

"But this is certainly a much less sexual spread. Still 2 majors in it, and giving a vibe of determination somehow. Or control? Who is controlling whom? lol"

I think this is more about reigning in the emotions - in sense, gawd, I cannot be that obvious. I. Must. Not. Melt. In. Front. Of. Them. Giving in to the bliss but not giving it away. Artists. #smh

Alternatively, it can show 2 people circling around an attractive, pleasant situation but with a different approach; Push - pull?

"Well, but maybe I wasn`t allowed to do the second spread at all, as I already had pulled three cards on the question, though from a diff. deck. But just because they seem so overly dramatic, it does not need to mean they were wrong. lol"

posted August 04, 2014 02:03 AM            

about your composite venus return

''lovers - 8 of wands - Tower.''

The spread is flanked by 2 majors. My take is this composite venus return will be a major event for you and yes I agree with Venus, it is highly like highly sexual, the temptation is so strong even without the Devil in place, look at that lovers card!

''Total destruction, nullyifying of that connection? Or a restructuring, rebuilding to who knows what?''

Could be. But do we really know what is good for us, like really good for us?? The most important part is enjoy the moment if it is what feels right.

''Yesterday I actually was feeling out of sorts, hit me just out of nothing, and I was drawing a card if he might be thinking of me, and I got the Devil. Again. ''

Hmmm, the fascination seems to be both ways that's what the devil usually points at to me

''Well so I was pulling some cards with my blunt RWS deck (just like Jessica did).''

LOL

Girl, this is going to be fun time for me,I just got myself 3 more decks that I am absolutely crazy about.The Deviant Moon Tarot, the Minchiate Florentine, and Gilded Tarot.

I slept with my Deviant Moon tarot yesterday night, I woke up with the cards under my pillow smh, I must have fallen asleep.(I left them next to me on the bed). I had strange dreams,couldn't remember them all,but I remember one quite vividly, featuring one specific character from one of the cards. He was waving at me, as if we know each other!

''Pulled:

Chariot - 10 of cups - Emperor

Well I do not like the Emperor in most spreads, he is so, I donīt know, controlling?''

Was that the same question about the composite venus return?

posted August 04, 2014 02:11 AM            

quote:

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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
That looks REAL NICE. Successful, attracting and attracted. Very powerful. Sparkly, dazzling, and probably dazzling a very specific someone. Is there someone you have your sights on?

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May be..

quote:

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Originally posted by VenusDiSirius:
It is nice, isn't it? Coherent. Unlike my Venus Return -

Justice - Page of Cups - 10 of Cups

Well, those who haven't had Justice in a spread concerning venusian themes, they just simply don't know what's fun.

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LOL

posted August 04, 2014 04:25 AM            

How does Deviant Moon read for you? In which instances would you use it??

Ceridwen,

"The reason I retell this is that it is just now I realize they were all Sagittarians! ALL FOUR OF THEM! (shall we call that a theme in my life?)"

*nods*

"When I was younger, I mean really young, teenager, I often would have daydreams about being kidnapped. Do not ask me where THAT came from! lol I don`t particularly WANT to be kidnapped, but on the other hand it might be the only way to keep me planted at one place and taking away my tendency to go into avoidance mode. lol"

posted August 05, 2014 07:55 AM            

Give me some time though.