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Topic: Practicing Lenormand Grand Tableau - readings and techniques
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LeeLoo2014 Moderator Posts: 11149 From: Venus cornering Neptune Registered: Mar 2014
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posted November 10, 2014 08:24 AM
I'm an apprentice fascinated by Lenormand and I would like for this to be an interactive thread, with exchange of opinions and lots of learning! The purpose is to discuss various examples of GTs.I would also like for us to discuss various GT techniques. I can cast your Grand Tableau online and post your spread here for interpretation. If you're interested, post your question in a very clear manner. I can only do this in my free time, of course, so patience is needed. Please do not post your question before the previous analysis is finished, thanks! ------------------
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tgem Moderator Posts: 3863 From: Registered: Jan 2013
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posted November 10, 2014 08:34 AM
Can I participate if I ask a different question? LOL I was quite intrigued yesterday and am interesting in learning IP: Logged |
LeeLoo2014 Moderator Posts: 11149 From: Venus cornering Neptune Registered: Mar 2014
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posted November 10, 2014 08:37 AM
Yes, of course, so you're the first, tgem Formulate your question and I'll come back later and post your spread for discussion ------------------
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tgem Moderator Posts: 3863 From: Registered: Jan 2013
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posted November 10, 2014 08:44 AM
Yay! Ok soooooo....many of you know I am ending a significant chapter in my life and will be beginning a new one. My question is: what will this "new chapter" bring into my life? (Professionally, spiritually etc.) Thank you!!IP: Logged |
hannaramaa Moderator Posts: 9757 From: Registered: Nov 2011
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posted November 10, 2014 10:22 AM
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LeeLoo2014 Moderator Posts: 11149 From: Venus cornering Neptune Registered: Mar 2014
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posted November 10, 2014 11:29 AM
We should have started with simpler, more specific questions lol Tgem, your question is a bit tricky, since you haven't finished this chapter, apparently. But let's try and interpret the Tableau from the perspective: "what happens when the new chapter begins, how it begins?" Hanna, your question is a yes or no question, a bit unfit for GT Let's discuss tgem's GT first, before asking more questions.
How is my new chapter? Cutting cards: Heart + Scythe ------------------
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LeeLoo2014 Moderator Posts: 11149 From: Venus cornering Neptune Registered: Mar 2014
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posted November 10, 2014 11:51 AM
OK, let's take it slowlyThe cutting cards and the Fate line suggest a major change in your love life. What was before will end and something new is ahead. Looking at the 1st cards, we see you and your husband (I'm positive Man/Bear is you husband) are facing a new beginning (Stork), this is how the new chapter starts. However, Coffin in hMarriage suggests this marriage, or this formula is ending. But you're still side by side. Heart is in your heart, in hWhip, Whip in hRing and Child in hHeart: the current situation/contract ends and something new is in your heart. That's the general impression of the first cards. ------------------
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hannaramaa Moderator Posts: 9757 From: Registered: Nov 2011
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posted November 10, 2014 12:02 PM
Not to sound creepy tGem but do you have nice legs? I saw The Bear and Stork next to each sig and immediately thought of physical descriptions. Also the Stork column... I think you're going to uncover a secret / information that will put things in your favor.IP: Logged |
LeeLoo2014 Moderator Posts: 11149 From: Venus cornering Neptune Registered: Mar 2014
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posted November 10, 2014 12:04 PM
Looking at a possible sequence of events by checking the corners:1 + 2 seem connected: garden + Birds - with Garden in the hSnake, and Snake in hLetter + Birds in hCoffin above Coffin followed by Whip, Clouds, Snake leading to Letter in the Fate line - suggests to me a lot of gossip or some very bad message - however, all these bad words/rumors/gossip will end, with the Cross crossing Letter. With Rider+Roads in your last corner, we see many opportunities opening before you and even a long voyage or a relocation, as suggested by the Fate Line: Ship + Scythe a very important journey which cannot be avoided. And you are already in hShip ------------------
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LeeLoo2014 Moderator Posts: 11149 From: Venus cornering Neptune Registered: Mar 2014
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posted November 10, 2014 12:15 PM
Getting back to you now... You're in hShip, Ship from FL in hAnchor and Anchor in hFlowers - a beautiful and certain journey.Your heart is in pain and in love: holding this pain about your isolation/separation (Tower) and secret love (Heart + Book) you're holding for this Lilly man wow lol who is with the Snake woman, and the Letter/message/gossip in the FL is most likely about her or them. You're knighting Lilly man with Moon + Fox and....I'm afraid this combo's description is an illusion, wrong evaluation I'm sorry about this! From the past, you're still knighting your husband and see him as an Anchor, so I guess you'll be friends again. ------------------ I seem to have loved you in numberless forms... IP: Logged |
LeeLoo2014 Moderator Posts: 11149 From: Venus cornering Neptune Registered: Mar 2014
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posted November 10, 2014 12:22 PM
Your isolation will definitely come to an end with Tower in hScythe and Scythe as the last card You mirror Flowers in hClouds and Snake in hLetter - unhappiness due to some bad news or the Snake woman or simply jealousy *Snake) clouds your happiness right now (Flowers in Clouds). This is also suggested by Mice being in your house. ------------------
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LeeLoo2014 Moderator Posts: 11149 From: Venus cornering Neptune Registered: Mar 2014
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posted November 10, 2014 12:41 PM
It seems the reading is still contaminated by the present or immediate future. Let's look at the future now.
next stage: there will be peace, serenity and changes around the house, maybe some decoration or something related to a real estate. You will help a friend of yours, a woman, overcome a difficulty, maybe with the authorities. I also legal matters with Book in hBirds. There will be the more unpleasant situation described with the gossip/letter/Snake. It's strange but I also see a child in the house?? In the future, the more distant one, I see a happy union with Dog + Ring in the hLilly, but my guess is this is a new man, since the last card is Scythe - Jack of Diamonds and he is a symbol for an unknown, new, young man Do you have any questions related to specific fields?
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LeeLoo2014 Moderator Posts: 11149 From: Venus cornering Neptune Registered: Mar 2014
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posted November 10, 2014 12:56 PM
It' strange however, that the Ring is in the house of Mr Lilly hahahaIP: Logged |
tgem Moderator Posts: 3863 From: Registered: Jan 2013
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posted November 10, 2014 01:12 PM
quote: Originally posted by LeeLoo2014: OK, let's take it slowlyThe cutting cards and the Fate line suggest a major change in your love life. What was before will end and something new is ahead. Looking at the 1st cards, we see you and your husband (I'm positive Man/Bear is you husband) are facing a new beginning (Stork), this is how the new chapter starts. However, Coffin in hMarriage suggests this marriage, or this formula is ending. But you're still side by side. Heart is in your heart, in hWhip, Whip in hRing and Child in hHeart: the current situation/contract ends and something new is in your heart. That's the general impression of the first cards.
Ok first, sorry about the question. If I would have caught these posts earlier I would have changed it. It makes sense about reconciling with my husband. I've been told by others that will happen. But that it will be friendship/co-parenting rather than marriage. IP: Logged |
tgem Moderator Posts: 3863 From: Registered: Jan 2013
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posted November 10, 2014 01:13 PM
quote: Originally posted by hannaramaa: Not to sound creepy tGem but do you have nice legs? I saw The Bear and Stork next to each sig and immediately thought of physical descriptions. Also the Stork column... I think you're going to uncover a secret / information that will put things in your favor.
I LOL'd when I read this because as a matter of fact I do: I am 6 ft. Tall And yes, I have also been told before I will uncover secret information that will be beneficial to me. IP: Logged |
tgem Moderator Posts: 3863 From: Registered: Jan 2013
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posted November 10, 2014 01:24 PM
quote: Originally posted by LeeLoo2014: Getting back to you now... You're in hShip, Ship from FL in hAnchor and Anchor in hFlowers - a beautiful and certain journey.Your heart is in pain and in love: holding this pain about your isolation/separation (Tower) and secret love (Heart + Book) you're holding for this Lilly man wow lol who is with the Snake woman, and the Letter/message/gossip in the FL is most likely about her or them. You're knighting Lilly man with Moon + Fox and....I'm afraid this combo's description is an illusion, wrong evaluation I'm sorry about this! From the past, you're still knighting your husband and see him as an Anchor, so I guess you'll be friends again.
Ok, we need to re-evaluate this part about Lily being an illusion! First, yes my heart is in pain and love! Second Lily is definitely Cusp and Snake is definitely his wife. Third, the Letter is definitely the letter I wrote to him a year ago apologizing for ending the friendship and telling him how much I cared for him. It doesn't surprise me that that whole thing re-surfaces as it's unfinished business between us. Fourth, are you saying that everything that happened with Lily (Cusp) and me is an illusion and was all in my head??!!! Are you sure??!! IP: Logged |
tgem Moderator Posts: 3863 From: Registered: Jan 2013
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posted November 10, 2014 01:32 PM
quote: Originally posted by LeeLoo2014: It' strange however, that the Ring is in the house of Mr Lilly hahaha
So what does that mean? So what if moon and fox surrounding Lily have to do with a job? He owns his own business, I am looking for a job...ring can mean a business partnership? Moon can indicate a job having to do with creativity and quite successful? IP: Logged |
LeeLoo2014 Moderator Posts: 11149 From: Venus cornering Neptune Registered: Mar 2014
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posted November 10, 2014 02:08 PM
quote: Originally posted by tgem: So what does that mean? So what if moon and fox have to do with a job? He owns his own business, I am looking for a job...ring can mean a business partnership? Moon can indicate a job having to do with creativity and quite successful?
it's quite possible, since Moon in hDog means friend from the past and Fox in hGarden means job promotion Any way, Moon/Fox is definitely how you're knighting him, what he means to you: look at the chess move with You Heart Lilly knighted by Moon + Fox in that order. ------------------
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tgem Moderator Posts: 3863 From: Registered: Jan 2013
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posted November 10, 2014 02:27 PM
quote: Originally posted by LeeLoo2014: It seems the reading is still contaminated by the present or immediate future. Let's look at the future now.
next stage: there will be peace, serenity and changes around the house, maybe some decoration or something related to a real estate. You will help a friend of yours, a woman, overcome a difficulty, maybe with the authorities. I also legal matters with Book in hBirds. There will be the more unpleasant situation described with the gossip/letter/Snake. It's strange but I also see a child in the house?? In the future, the more distant one, I see a happy union with Dog + Ring in the hLilly, but my guess is this is a new man, since the last card is Scythe - Jack of Diamonds and he is a symbol for an unknown, new, young man Do you have any questions related to specific fields?
Looking to the future, anymore ideas about this friend I will help? Which card indicates that?
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tgem Moderator Posts: 3863 From: Registered: Jan 2013
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posted November 10, 2014 02:28 PM
Do you have any questions related to specific fields?Looking to the future, anymore ideas about this friend I will help? Which card indicates that? IP: Logged |
LeeLoo2014 Moderator Posts: 11149 From: Venus cornering Neptune Registered: Mar 2014
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posted November 10, 2014 03:06 PM
Another way of reading this is by using the French house designations (I only included Marriage and Love here). The meaning of houses differs from the meaning of cards, with this system and there's an interesting point in that. What I used here is a translation of the meaning of cards to houses. The proper way of using the classical French house system for a GT with Fate Line is by tirage-en-ligne: this needs two decks - with one you first draw the houses; with the second you draw the cards falling in the houses. Otherwise, the Fate Line will always contain the same houses.But we can read this GT with the house system as a linear spread (not taking the time sequence into account, just the present is highlighted). As per the question of course, and since your question is about the future more or less ... The reading is as follows: (houses numbered from 1 to 36) 1. Present, what's on your mind, current project: Bear: power, jealousy, money or this man, this patriarch (perhaps your husband) 2. Accomplishments, what can be achieved: Man 3. Recognition of own’s efforts and realizations: You 4. House: Anticipation, that which one is waiting for to happen, but it doesn’t necessarily happen: Stork (relocation, change, improvement)
5. Tree: Speculations, risks, especially financial. It shows if a person is lucky or unlucky. Three in it's own house!! Luck is on your side. 6. Clouds: Wishes, dreams, and hopes for the future. Happiness! 7. Snake: Mistakes, injustice, and unfairness. Garden: Something connected to a group of people, with a society, parties. 8. Coffin: ungratefulness and envy, including that of the querent. Birds: Gossip 9. Flowers: Contacts. Work, relations with colleagues and business partners. Anchor: great chances for long-term contracts and opportunities. 10. Scythe: Losses, but also obstacles that can appear. Tower: Problems with the authorities. 11. Whip: Personal problems, but sometimes also financial. Heart: love problems lol 12. Birds: Possessions, but also investments. Book: are you taking courses?? 13. Child: Joy that will come soon. House: a new home, imprvements in the house. ------------------ I seem to have loved you in numberless forms... IP: Logged |
LeeLoo2014 Moderator Posts: 11149 From: Venus cornering Neptune Registered: Mar 2014
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posted November 10, 2014 03:07 PM
14. Fox: Love. Sun: great card here.15. Bear: Wellbeing, prosperity. Fish WOW you'll get richer for sure 16. Stars: Marriage or long-term relationships. Coffin: yeah, I think it's divorce 17. Stork: Worries and concerns. Mountain: big worries and concerns. 18. Dog: Harmony. Moon: creativity? divination? 19. Tower: Winning the lottery. Inheritance, or money received from others. Lilly - from a man, apparently. Interestingly, Lilly also means father or a business, family business. 20. Garden: Fraud. Fox: hm big fraud here with the Fox. 21. Mountain: Opposition. Dog: hm I think a former friend here or maybe a true friend doesn't agree with you. 22. Ways: Gifts. Key: all right, you'll receive a Key, maybe a new home??? or maybe finding out a secret. 23. Mouse: The one close to you in friendship and affection, love/hate. Clover: new friends, me thinks. 24. Heart: Personal evolution. Child: new projects or maybe a baby? 25. Ring: Cooperation. It shows relations of dependency. Yeah, Whip 26. Book: Long term initiatives and projects. Clouds: confusion, uncertainty. 27: Letter: Possible circumstances for change. Advantages and disadvantages. Snake: shedding skin? A woman contributes to a change for you. 28. Man: Death, sadness and negative events. Stars: yay, not much sadness here. 29. Woman: Recognition of one’s own work. Mice: you need to work hard, but take it slowly. Sure, steady but step-by-step. Recognition is assured in the long run. 30. Lily: Disgrace, or quarrels with negative persons in your life. The Ring here hm this must be related to your marriage. 31. Sun: Existing perspectives. RiderL fast news about that, a proposal. 32. Moon: Financial prosperity, general success. Roads: diversification also good for mediating jobs. 33. Key: Negligence, or that which is not paid enough attention to. The Letter 34. Fish: Gain as a result of own work. Cross: you reap what you sow 35. Anchor: Influence and power or how to use your talents best, self-improvement. Ship: you need to travel, you need exchanges. 36. Cross: Health, illness, or possible accidents, professional or otherwise. Scythe not a very good card here, but maybe it's a minor cut injury or cutting your hair How does it sound??
wow I need a break hahaha ------------------
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tgem Moderator Posts: 3863 From: Registered: Jan 2013
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posted November 10, 2014 03:20 PM
Wow! Thank you so much!IP: Logged |
LeeLoo2014 Moderator Posts: 11149 From: Venus cornering Neptune Registered: Mar 2014
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posted November 10, 2014 04:06 PM
You're welcome, tgem I got the friend by a combination of Dog Mountain Tower Stork, I guess.------------------
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tgem Moderator Posts: 3863 From: Registered: Jan 2013
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posted November 10, 2014 04:15 PM
quote: Originally posted by LeeLoo2014: You're welcome, tgem I got the friend by a combination of Dog Mountain Tower Stork, I guess.
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