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LeeLoo2014
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posted November 16, 2014 04:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LeeLoo2014     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'm trying to remake the process, it's funny how difficult it is, it's like a state of trance when I first read the cards. Anyway, to me there are two messages in this spread: one refers to Rider, I think it's related to him deciding whether to answer you or not (to you reconnecting with him). He is working right now, Fox is very strong in its own house.

The other one is the SM message you received.

For online messages, I always check the Garden house too. Since this must be related to your past line (which to me is the upper spread) - also, you knighting Garden + Letter shows this kind of communication (birds garden works for this too) this is how I discovered Garden is in Fish and Fish in the past line in Snake, near the Whip (plus Stork is in Whip) plus you're knighting Snake with Rider and Scythe. I'm not sure I can explain it as I saw it, but when I was trying to identify who sent the message, because of the connection with these two feminine cards - Snake and Stork, my thought was: it's a woman, a thought I dismissed lol

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posted November 16, 2014 04:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dancing Maenad     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

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posted November 16, 2014 10:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for littlecloud     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Dancing Maenad:
Not everyone has had good experiences with her, LC. It's pretty subjective, IMO. You can't connect with everyone the same. I can tell you her name and how you can find her, but I don't want to lead you to a path of psychic addiction or being disappointed in your reading - even though I stand by everything I said about her. For me, she has been eerily accurate. But not for everyone - someone recently said in PR she encouraged them to hang onto a man who wasn't strongly interested in the end.

So.. only if you take it with a little salt.


Sure why not. I'm always curious.

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Dancing Maenad
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posted November 16, 2014 10:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dancing Maenad     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Alright.. here she is. Good luck!
http://psychic.bitwine.com/psychics/266491-sandiecamara

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Dancing Maenad
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posted November 16, 2014 10:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dancing Maenad     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
LeeLoo, would it be possible to link me to your new time lines interpretation, or explain it to me if you can? I am always interested in different ways to skin a cat. And I guess I am not fully convinced about the method I use either. Thank you!

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posted November 17, 2014 09:09 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Interesting stuff.

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LeeLoo2014
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posted November 17, 2014 10:08 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for LeeLoo2014     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Sure, DM. Actually,for now I'm really sticking to the 8 x 4 GT. I use the other one only for the gypsy spread.

But this GT with fate Line is my favorite so far. The method I use (the vertical timing) which is not mine o course, it's pretty common, seems logical and also gives good results so far.

The rules are:


the main rule is: past is upper, above the querent, future is lower side, leading to the Fate Line. The Fate Line is the outcome of the spread, at least when it comes to the 9 to 12 months outcome.

the cards arounf the querent (the 8 cards if in middle) are the present - what she has in her head (mostly up) in her heart - her intentions (downs) what she is doing, considering - her left (a bit from the past or put behind) and ahead (which has an "immediate" connotation).

The column of the querent contains this present but also things projected from the past (which preoccupy her) - above her - and future occurences - below her.

But all the past and future cards are considered after the "bubble" around her (those max 8 cards)

On her row, we have past to the left, future to the right.

Past is also the upper diagonals, future is also the lower diagnals, leading to the Fate Line.


The only things considered are the diagonals plus her column, the things "emerging" from her into the past or the future (or the sig in question). The rest of the cards are helpful in order to explain those diagonals. But the only things happening in the past/future are on the diagonals, corners and the fate line. Between two people, the crossing cards are the ones that matter, both in the past or the future (the cards where they both meet, either on diagonals or through knighting).

Now, reading the sequence of events is a bit tricky and I think it requires practice and intuition. But the main principle is: the sequence depends on the number of cards (for example one diagonal with 2 cards happens before the third card of another future diagonal which has 3 cards), but the last sequence always leads to the fate line. For example, if you have two future sequences, one leading to the right below corner and one future sequence leading to a fate card, the one leading to the fate card is always later.

if you have two future sequences leading to two different fate line cards (for example 1st and last), the last sequence is always the one leading to the last Fate Line card.

But I suppose you also have to combine things in there and feel them and it comes with practice and it's on a case by case basis, to feel the sequence of events.


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posted November 17, 2014 01:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LeeLoo2014     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
If you want, I can cast a GT for you, for exemplification of the method. Choose a question

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posted November 18, 2014 10:33 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dancing Maenad     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

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posted November 18, 2014 11:13 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for LeeLoo2014     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'm sorry but it's only transitory, hang in there...you know what they say: every professional success comes with a sentimental flop or delay

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posted November 18, 2014 12:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dancing Maenad     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Okay. If you still want to. Will I find true love again?

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posted November 18, 2014 01:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dancing Maenad     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

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LeeLoo2014
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posted November 18, 2014 02:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LeeLoo2014     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My dear DM

First I pulled one card.

It is......:druuuuummmssss:

Number 9



Cutting cards:

Stars + House


Now let's see the GT...

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posted November 18, 2014 02:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LeeLoo2014     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I took the liberty of asking: When/how/who is DM's true love?

Cutting cards: Woman + Key

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posted November 18, 2014 03:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LeeLoo2014     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Can you see how amazing this is? (and of course, that I'm a witch hehehe) Do you see the card near your Heart?

As per our question, it is the symbol of true love, revealed to us in the first card I pulled.

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posted November 18, 2014 03:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LeeLoo2014     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It's an amazing spread!... it gave me 2 tears

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posted November 18, 2014 04:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dancing Maenad     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks, LeeLoo! Do you think your wishes for me might have influenced how the spread came out?

I am only asking because.. well, yeah, it's kind of too good to be true lol. And.. it has happened to me a couple of times. Lenormands are tricky in this regard, much more than Tarots. Our thoughts can influence the spread quite a bit!


Who do you think I end up with?


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posted November 18, 2014 04:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LeeLoo2014     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
How do you look like? I think I saw pics of yours and I'm pretty sure you're the Queen of Hearts...unless you have green/blue eyes??

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posted November 18, 2014 04:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dancing Maenad     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

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posted November 18, 2014 04:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LeeLoo2014     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hahah ok well here, you're definitely the Stork...it connects to both your houses: Woman and your placement there in Scythe. It's not me, I'm a Snake

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posted November 18, 2014 04:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dancing Maenad     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Why can't I be the Woman?

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LeeLoo2014
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posted November 18, 2014 04:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LeeLoo2014     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Oh, yes, you are the Woman for sure, but I tried to identify the next court card for the woman to see how she looks like and it's Stork coming from all sides: your houses, plus it's near you...so no, the spread is not about me, I'm the Queen of Clubs

A redhaired can easily be the Red Queen, the Queen of Hearts.

I'll describe your spread tomorrow, it's totally awesome, you don't know this man, you'll meet him through a woman, possibly dark-haired like myself and you both meet on Ring, it's your crossing card, in his house and you have Child in yours !

My guess it's not going to be long until you meet him. I'll try and describe him tomorrow.


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posted November 18, 2014 04:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dancing Maenad     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Lol, no, I didn't mean to say the spread is about you, but that your thoughts/wishes for me and my future can be seen in the cards.. I do hope that you are right though.. But since the Man is on my row, given your vertical time line interpretation, shouldn't he be in my present, though rather distant? Like maybe I met him briefly but I'm not currently in contact with him?

Anyways, no worries, take your time. I'm super exhausted myself. I'm heading for bed asap.

Thank you, dear LeeLoo! I really do hope you are right..

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posted November 19, 2014 05:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LeeLoo2014     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
yes, you are right, but, as they recommend, I also try to use my intuition...they say we should also look, sometimes, at the direction of the cards..in this spread man woman are on the same row...perhaps they know each other, briefly as you said, like they know they exist, or maybe they are just evolving right now, at the same time, towards the meeting. this is suggested by the two of them with their backs turned to each other (maybe if they were facing each other, I would have thought they already met). plus, they have the roads card between them, in birds and birds in ship, as if they're flying towards each other I simply love this spread, DM! plus they both knighting snake, above (it should have been in the recent past), but being behind them, connected to birds and book (unknown) and since the cutting cards of the spread are woman + key - a woman or the woman is the key, my verdict was: they haven't met yet, but they will, with roads between them and birds in the "beginning of the story". plus look at that snake woman!!: she is right above roads! and near birds! I find all these connections very beautiful!


let's proceed...

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posted November 19, 2014 05:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LeeLoo2014     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I know you have your doubts and I don't want to create false hoes for you, but I think this spread is valid, and a sufficient clue is the repeated card: the bouguet, here near the heart, plus house + stars when I draw the first card, for the yes or no answer.

since the question was when/how/who is your true love, I suppose the corners, at least the first one, the first cards should give us some clues about the circumstances of your meeting.

let's see...house rider stars wow! I can't believe it ! house + stars is repeated here

could this be a party at your house, during night time? not impossible! it could also be a wish upon a star with rider in stars and stars in tower

I also see that tower is near him and bear in coffin - he's possibly a separated man

we also see the snake woman is in the house and whip in snake and a letter - I wonder if your meeting won't be in fact related to an actual house - she could be a real estate agent or something like that, connected to this house (you will tell me)


house is also the king of hearts, so I'm going to use another method here, before reading the corners: I will try to identify the Man.


EDIT: now that I think about it, they probably meet at the snake woman's house, at a party
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