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LeeLoo2014
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posted December 17, 2014 11:15 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for LeeLoo2014     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
thank you, tgem dear! wow...it does look like a very unexpected and very important message indeed! ah, the mystery! lol

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I seem to have loved you in numberless forms...

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posted December 17, 2014 11:20 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by tgem:
I agree with Leeloo, I see this as a Yes. 3 and 2.

BTW my cards are "on" today so feel free to ask a question if need someone neutral to pull



hmm maybe I am nosy, but I`d like to ask how things are between him and M.
If you feel it is none of my business, feel free to tell me so.

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posted December 17, 2014 11:37 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for tgem     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Ceridwen:

hmm maybe I am nosy, but I`d like to ask how things are between him and M.
If you feel it is none of my business, feel free to tell me so.

Ok I pulled:
Mice-moon-stars-tree-birds
Ouch. Very stressful I must say, depressing, arguments. I think with the Stars being the central card it shows they are trying to look at the situation with hope or optimism, but clearly they're having problems.

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posted December 17, 2014 12:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks.

How did you come to the conclusion though?
I mean except for hte mice, it doesn`t look that bad, I mean the Moon-STars looks like a very beautiful combo.

Of course yuor interpretation aligns quite with the sense I always get when I see them, and she seems very stressed out, but it may be that I am jsut seeing what I want to see. Not that I want to see stressed or depressed, but oh well better shut up now.

If their relationship does not work out, I prefer it to be because of other reasons, but not me, you know?
Not that I think I have that kind of effect.


Do you also feel the frame of a spread holds quite some emphasis, so the first and the last card, revolving around the centre card?

At least that is how I have come to read it, I donīt know if that is right, it just FEELS like that to me, like the 1st and 5th revolving around the 3rd are sort of the "bracket" of the reading.

But then again I also put emphasis on 2-3-4, mainly everything revolving around the central card I think. lol


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posted December 17, 2014 12:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for tgem     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
SYes, 3rd card is the main theme, but then I go to mirroring: read 1 and 5, then 2 and 4. Finally I read them linearly to get the story.

Mice and birds- stressful and depressing conversations
Moon and tree- depression/ unhealthy emotions
Mice and moon- definitely depression and negative emotions

Moon and stars shows the optimism and hope but to me, I see a lot of negativity surrounding it. Especially when you consider the tree is about Health..so I'd say here it refers to the "health" of the relationship.
That's just my take, of course.

Moon, mice and tree all in the same spread doesn't look very positive to me at all.

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posted December 17, 2014 12:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thank you.
Your delineation makes perfect sense to me, too.

Can I pull some cards for you, too? Any questons?

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posted December 17, 2014 01:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for tgem     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
Thank you.
Your delineation makes perfect sense to me, too.

Can I pull some cards for you, too? Any questons?


Hey thanks....ummmmmm ok. Can you tell me how has D's health been since we separated in 2012?

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posted December 17, 2014 02:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I`m sorry, I fear the spread doesn`t make much sense, but that is how the cards came out

Heart - letter - Rider - bouquet - clouds

This looks more like a love spread than a health one

There are also nice cards in there, however with the heart and clouds as a frame and Rider as central cards, I wonder if there were news (maybe a medical examination?) becuase of some unclear diagnosis concering cardic things?
However with the letter-rider- followed by bouqet, hopefully there is recuperation and fine health. It is just he clouds as the last card that I find worrisome, like there is some confusion or lack of clarity.

However I was also thinking of some issues connected to love?

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posted December 17, 2014 02:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for tgem     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You're right, it does look more like a love spread doesn't it? Well I was really looking to see if he has been suffering any type of anxiety or depression..something along those lines but wasn't sure how to phrase the question.
Thanks for pulling though.

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posted December 17, 2014 02:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Heart-Clouds could be indicative of depressions, made me think of it at least. I see the difference to Moon in terms of depressions that if the heart is involved, a relationship or the falling apart of one might be directly involved in the depression.

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posted December 17, 2014 02:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for tgem     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
Heart-Clouds could be indicative of depressions, made me think of it at least. I see the difference to Moon in terms of depressions that if the heart is involved, a relationship or the falling apart of one might be directly involved in the depression.

Hmmm, that's an interesting take..didn't think of that with the heart-clouds.

Possibly..but I definitely see it loud and clear in the cards I pulled for you.

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posted December 17, 2014 02:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yes, the Moon-Tree, or Mice combo is quite clear in terms of depression, I agree.

BTW I was pulling some cards as to what my birthday tomorrow will be like, what will happen, if it will be a harmonious one etc.

Got

Snake - bear - heart - book - man

There are just too many personīs cards in there for my comfort! lol

Seems my cards were a little emotionally loaded.

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posted December 17, 2014 03:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for tgem     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yay!! Happy happy birthday!!
You're right...that's a tough spread. At least the heart in the middle is a good thing

Do you want me to pull for you for tomorrow?

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posted December 17, 2014 03:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yes, please do pull for me.

(to be honest I did not think the spread I had was too tough, but I prefer someone else to pull for me.)

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posted December 17, 2014 03:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for tgem     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
S
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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
Yes, please do pull for me.

(to be honest I did not think the spread I had was too tough, but I prefer someone else to pull for me.)


Ok, give me your interpretation on the spread you pulled and then I'll give you mine...

BRB with your other spread...

Ok I asked what will happen on Ceri's birthday tomorrow?
roads-Lily-tree-moon-stork
Looks pretty positive to me. It looks like something will happen karma related (decision or you get an opportunity) to be creative or use your creativity in some way that will lead to a new beginning of some positive changes in your life. What do you think?

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posted December 18, 2014 04:29 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thank you.

Maybe I am pregnenat? LOL

Nah seriously but that reminds me, in a tidbit of a dream last night I was taking a pregnancy test.

Wouldnt I have to have, you know what, before?

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posted December 18, 2014 06:44 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for tgem     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Well I'm sorry if the cards didn't resonate for you. Anyway, I hope you have a wonderful Birthday

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posted December 18, 2014 07:15 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for vesta     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Lol ...

That is what it looks like Ceri.

But you know moon can also be dreams as I have seen in my cards. And since the stork can be a return maybe you get a reoccurring dream.

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posted December 18, 2014 07:29 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
T-gem,

oh they do resonate. I hope so at least, it is such a nice spread. I want that to be true.
Though so far it has been just stressful and hectic this morning.


Vesta,

yes, interesting that you mention that.
I have dreamed of the apokalypse last night again. Well I had a phase where I was dreaming of the four hoursemen and archangel Michael repeatedly, but for the last months these dreams had not come back.

But last night I was dreaming that again, even seeing the letters in my dream, and hearing the words being heralded.

It was just: "Three days until Judgement day. Three days until the Shift."

Umph, my dreams are certainly weird, right?

Oh and I was also dreaming of dogs. One man was having a very big black dog on a leash, but to be honest it looked more like the black dog was granting the man the illusion of believing he was the one in control, while the dog was really the one who was pulling him anywhere he wanted.

They were passing another passenger on the street who was having three, smaller and lighter in colour, dogs on a leash. I think though the passenger was a woman, not completely sure.

It was a weird dream for sure.


I once read the black dog announces death, so I for sure did not like that part of the dream one little bit.

I was not involved in the part either, I was just watching them from a distance.


Maybe my subconscousness is trying to absorb allt hese news of atrocities committed agains the innocent in this world.

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posted December 18, 2014 07:40 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for vesta     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
T-gem,

oh they do resonate. I hope so at least, it is such a nice spread. I want that to be true.
Though so far it has been just stressful and hectic this morning.


Vesta,

yes, interesting that you mention that.
I have dreamed of the apokalypse last night again. Well I had a phase where I was dreaming of the four hoursemen and archangel Michael repeatedly, but for the last months these dreams had not come back.

But last night I was dreaming that again, even seeing the letters in my dream, and hearing the words being heralded.

It was just: "Three days until Judgement day. Three days until the Shift."

Umph, my dreams are certainly weird, right?

Oh and I was also dreaming of dogs. One man was having a very big black dog on a leash, but to be honest it looked more like the black dog was granting the man the illusion of believing he was the one in control, while the dog was really the one who was pulling him anywhere he wanted.

They were passing another passenger on the street who was having three, smaller and lighter in colour, dogs on a leash. I think though the passenger was a woman, not completely sure.

It was a weird dream for sure.


Ceri, not so weird actually

You know dogs are faithful and loyal they are a symbol of angels watching over and protecting us.

The black dog would be more of a demon or evil spirit who is leading the man down a path of destruction. He thinks he is in control but actually it is the evil as they are.


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posted December 18, 2014 08:14 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Maybe, who knows.

The weird thing is though, the black dog was not evil, just very determined in where he knew his owner (and himself) were supposed to go.

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posted December 18, 2014 08:22 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for vesta     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Well,
I don't know then that is just what it sounded like.

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posted December 23, 2014 08:38 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Well, just want to share a spread on a most mundane question.

The christmas cd arrived, and I asked, if he would like it, if I was writing a short comment about that, and that it is really good. It is actually.

This was the spread:

letter - clover - rider - lily - ship.

lol

Especially the first ones, right?

letter/ ship:
information / message during / about a journey, message is on its way

Letter + clover (2):
message that makes one happy, lucky message

Clover + rider (1):
positive message which makes one happy


I just love it when the cards are fitting the question. lol (here int his case Rider and letter both make a lot of sense in a question about a message)

the other combos of course do not fit that well. lol


Clover/lily
good sexuality, businessman promises success

Rider/lily
message, consent from supporter / favorer / discoverer, message
from a the male affair, message / phone call from prospective partner


Lily/ship
sexual adventures, winter journey, businessmen, journey with / to business
partner / sponsor

lol

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posted December 23, 2014 09:30 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Sometimes, just sometimes he can be quite sweet.

WEll I did put my comment on there, and he liked it just 11 minutes after I put it on there.
I swear sometimes it almost creeps me out how we seem to be online around the same time, though maybe that is just cause we are always online.

I know it`s not a big deal, but I am still sometimes feeling rather insecure about leaving positive comments. I don`t know why, after all they are nice, but being verbal about liking something/ someone still sometimes feels a little weird to me, Aqua-Moon I suppose. lol

Nevertheless so it seems the lenormand spread was right; it WAS a good idea.

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posted December 23, 2014 09:40 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
you know what is funny?

I was checking the transits for when he "liked" my comment, and the tr ASC is EXACTLY conjunct my natal KARMA in 7th house.


More than that though.

Tr Venus is EXACTLY conjunct our composite Venus 0°10, which of course means that our composite must have had its Venus-return just a few hours before!

MOre than that though

Tr Moon is also exactly conjunct our composite Moon 0°33, and the Moon is so quckly moving.


So this means Tr Moon and Venus were conjunct thehir respective placements exact in our composite today. What the....? I couldnīt have planned it, if I had known it in advance. lol


And btw Tr NN has just entered the same degree as our composite Pluto. lol


And someone taught me to check where the natal Moons fall in an event chart, and AGAIN, his natal Moon falls into the 7th house, my natal Moon falls into the 10th house, just like the other times before. lol

(my nMoon conjunczt tr Mars by 3 degrees; his nMoonc onjunct tr Sun by 3 degrees)

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