posted January 07, 2015 01:29 PM            

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Originally posted by Enneline:
No no, I did not think that you're a manly woman hahaha no. But i know that you are tough

Maybe that's the point: I have the feeling (as you know I am not god ) that he is like "why change? What change? She needs to accept me the way I am and she'd probably have another lover right away. She wants me to become the way she likes, the way she likes men...she sees that in other men she deals with..."
something like that.

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posted January 10, 2015 11:44 AM            

Apart from a description you probably all know of this pair heralding that whatever comes as initiative, excitement, adventure, creativity, individual power (Ace of Wands) is in the realm of the Ace of Cups: love, deep feelings, intimacy, connection, attunement, strong emotions, passion, compassion, there is also this interesting description of the Ace of Wands as being the masculine principle (and even the masculine organ lol) and the Ace of Cups as being the feminine principle (organ) and when the two come up in a reading like this, they show an erotic kind of love, a symbol for the erotic union itself and even the act of conception.

A description here:
http://tarotverbatim.com/tag/ace-of-wands-and-ace-of-cups/

I found this occurrence very interesting considering this man has Valentine conj Lust (0) (Ace of Cups conj Ace of Wands)+ Pluto (2) on his ASC (3) and on my Mars (1).

posted January 10, 2015 12:06 PM            

could you do a love reading on Mr Sag and M?

Yes, I did one myself days ago, but I am too close to really do it I think.

posted January 10, 2015 12:11 PM            

The current emotional status of the relationship: 3 cards

His feelings for M: 3 cards
His intentions with M: 3 cards

Her feelings for him:
Her intentions with him:

Common Outcome/next stage:

OK?

posted January 10, 2015 01:38 PM            

7 of Swords Lovers 5 of Swords

It looks like they're currently fighting or going through a more difficult period of high tension and conflicts, perhaps some negotiations, but with the Lovers usually the love/personal connection is strong, they are a couple stricto sensu.

His feelings for M: 3 cards

Ace of Pentacles King of Wands 7 of Cups

His feelings seem to be strong, inclination towards an enduring feeling/connection, he is the more peaceful partner, searching for harmony and peace and solutions, but there's also an over-idealization here, from his part. Or maybe his artistic approach on things, unless the partnehsip is also connected to his art somehow.

His intentions with M: 3 cards

5 of Wands Emperor Hierophant

There is a challenge for him here, but it looks like his intentions are towards making the relationship official.

Her feelings for him:

8 of Cups 8 of Swords 9 of Swords ouch

She seems to exprience a lot of fear and second thoughts about something, perhaps about him being a male star, generally liked by women? Personally, I don't interpret intense negative cards as lack of feelings, on the contrary, despite showing negative emotions, they only come up only when the querent is intensely involved. More "indifferent", casual cards ( 3 of Wands, 2 of Wands, 2 of Pentacles etc are the ones showing disinterest in a person/relationship. Maybe she's having second thoughts about him being reliable in the long term with so many female fans? lol

Her intentions with him:

Fool Ace of Wands Chariot...one card on the Chariot: Devil

She seems to be wanting to take control of the situation somehow and maybe risking ...something. All three cards point to a risky choice being made, and moving to decissive action. With the Devil on the Chariot, I think the combo shows intense plans about taking control over a situation, perhaps on one's own fears/intentions. We see the risk (Fool) the idea (Ace of Wands), a plan in action (Chariot/Devil)

Common Outcome/next stage:

High Priestess Ten of Pentacles Knight of Swords

They will probably stabilize their relationship but I think at some point conflicts may reappear, or even a rival. It seems to be quite the stormy relationship. Apparently, she's the one with the fear and insecurity in the relationship, at least from this spread.

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posted January 10, 2015 01:58 PM            

BTW do you read the cards as a sequence?

posted January 15, 2015 10:47 AM            

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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
Thank you, Leeloo,
very much appreciated.

BTW do you read the cards as a sequence?

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I didn't see this, Ceri, sorry.

You mean the string of three? Or the whole spread?

For the string of three, I don't necessarily read as a sequence, although it is generally suggested as the chronology of events. But... I consider these things as well:

-the first card, opening the string, is like a major theme, it gives the flavor to all three (unless we see a pairing, for instance, a King and a Queen, or the two Aces like in my spread)

but sometimes the middle card seems to be the theme.

- the last is a bit of the result of the previous two

but sometimes, the string suggests a clear chain of events, especially if we're asking about actions or things that are supposed to be more actional: for example in my spread, we see a clear sequence of events: Chariot, Page, W of F - the beginning of action is followed by the page ( or the page himself comes driving the Chariot) and this leads to unknown yet fateful events (which likely with the WofF are generally positive, as opposed to the Tower, for instance).

If you're asking about the whole spread I clearly see it as a story, a chain of events/chronology, sometimes the connection (like I did with the Two of Cups/Queen of Cups here) is more subtle, but generally feelings (or current events) lead to intentions, intentions to actions, actions to outcomes etc. with all sorts of events in between. I don't even interpret the feelings/intentions without looking at the outcome first, for instance.

What about you?

EDIT: in fact, the way the string of three is paired is suggested by the cards. For example, in your spread, Emperor and Hierophant is a pair, it is at the end, so there is that 5 at the beginning, but the result is the pair. And especially since the pair suggests "taking control", we realize the 5 is overcome, so here's a chronology.
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posted January 15, 2015 12:11 PM            

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Another thing that just struck me was, that with these love spreads, as with all emotional readings, things are in an ongoing state of flux, and at certain junctures they might simply change.

What I mean is that for example by that meeting last friday, I might have - unknowngly- changed things. I canīt really explain it, but his attitude might have changed as well.
So I am not sure the spread you did for us (as nice it was), is valid anylonger.