posted January 10, 2015 01:10 PM            

Better to discuss with couples, no doubt, but it's still interesting as an overview of two views lol

Inspired from here:
https://faerygodmotherfortunes.wordpress.com/2012/02/14/my-top-ten-relationship-card-spreads/

One version would be:

1. How he sees me now/ how I see him

2. What he feels for me now/I feel for him now

3. What the relationship means to him/to me

4. What he wants now from me/what I want from him

5. What he will do next/ what I will do next (towards him, the relationship).

I keep saying that, because whatever happens in a love reading, the cards, are always between those two people, the intentions regarding the other, not in general.

I reversed the order, because whenever we think intensely about someone and since our intention with this kind of spreads is mostly to get in touch with the other's mind, the first card is usually an answer to that intention, being energetically dominant in the field of our thoughts.

My pairs are:

1. 3 of Cups/ 3of Swords - interesting, right??

2. 7 of Cups/Ace of Pentacles (I agree, from my side)

3. Knight of Cups/The Emperor

4. Wheel of Fortune/8 of Wands

5. 9 of Pentacles/the Empress

I can attest to my side of the story.

So how would you interpret this spread?

I can pull for whoever is interested in the spread.

posted January 10, 2015 02:50 PM            

he sees you as life of the party, social, also emotionally supportive and generous.
You see him as stressed out mentally and being in real pain, that he is suffering from anguish and heartbreak.

"2. 7 of Cups/Ace of Pentacles (I agree, from my side)"
Since you have not just met (then this card comes up as a crush for me), this is not too grand to get in a lasting relationship. Whenver I saw that card before in longer relationships it usually means that something was off or not right.
In terms of feelings I think he might not really know what he is feeling or feels like he needs to make a choice, but cannot do so, for the lack of clarity.
It`s a cup card so feelings are definitely at play here.

Ace of Pentacles is good for a beginning of a commitment. Grounded, stable, warm feeling, though sometimes quite concerned with the material side of things (I am not really talking about posessions here or money, though it can play a role, but the security of a very committed relationship; like it has to manifest in a certian way to be accepted as worthy).

3. Knight of Cups/The Emperor
The relationship pulls at his heart strings. But he might be VERY emotional about it, and sometimes quite moveable. But all in all I think he feels a strong emotional connection.

For you, fitting to the Ace of Pentacles, you see the potential of making this something very committed and lasting, though maybe in a more traditional way.

4. Wheel of Fortune/8 of Wands
You both want change. And FAST.

5. 9 of Pentacles/the Empress
He wonīt do much I think, but hopefully he will find the balance and contentment the 9 of pentacles suggests. he might be receptive to anything you do however.

You will nurture him and care for him deeply, which might be what is needed. However Emperor and Empress both in your spread, with the Ace of pentacles.
You are the decisive factor in this relationship, control is an ugly word, so I won`t say it. But you give it stability and structure, probably because that is what you need yourself.
He is more easily given over to emotional whims, can be probably very passionate and romantic, but at the same time also very moody or even emotionally greedy.

posted January 10, 2015 02:52 PM            

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Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:
because whenever we think intensely about someone and since our intention with this kind of spreads is mostly to get in touch with the other's mind, the first card is usually an answer to that intention, being energetically dominant in the field of our thoughts.

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For me this is exactly the other way round. I think it depends on how we energize and focus our energy, but for me there is a build up of energy.
And I am always interested to learn last about HIS side of the story, maybe it is the storyteller in me. lol

posted January 10, 2015 03:49 PM            

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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
For me this is exactly the other way round. I think it depends on how we energize and focus our energy, but for me there is a build up of energy.
And I am always interested to learn last about HIS side of the story, maybe it is the storyteller in me. lol

You are right about this spread though. I tried it out and the right side probably portrays my role best.

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Isn't it? I tried it with two couples (even with couples, the first thought in the mind of the querent is about what the other thinks. They were in the same room, but I did the spread separately, for each) and two of my girlfriends and they all said the same. Do you want me to draw cards for you?

posted January 10, 2015 03:51 PM            

Sure, I always like to see what cards you pull.

I can then list the cards I pulled myself.
Do you want me to pull for you, too? See if the themes are the same?

posted January 10, 2015 04:22 PM            

1. How he sees you now/ how you see him

Temperance/Page of Swords

All right, a feeling of contentement, peace, subtle, mostly inner attraction, but we must also consider the actual meaning of "temperance": a moderate, balance attitude, pondering, discerning.

A prince, but you are a bit mad now, right??

2. What he feels for you now/You feel for him now

Queen of Swords/Knight of Swords

Look at that, both drawing the Sword, a duel lol Both a bit distant, critical, even arrogant?? Well, at least the two are a match lol

3. What the relationship means to him/to you

4 of Wands/6 of Wands
I can see the theatre, again, in his card. celebration, joy, the arts. The familiar. For you, he is a journey into the unknown, an adventure, someone widening your horizons. Unfamiliar, uncharted territory, need to change. A bit of a contradiction between these two cards.

4. What he wants now from you/what you want from him

7 of Pents/Hierophant

Patience, even a pause, pondering, resting, but as I wanted to say about the Pents and my spread, the Pents always intend to do something tangible, will take some action, won't just sit there lol

You want a sign From him, but also from your higher self perhaps, or a higher connection you two might have.

5. What he will do next/ what you will do next (towards him, the relationship).

King of Swords/Ace of Cups

Hopefully not just sit there on his throne, with a resting sword lol Clarification is indicated with this King. However, this King is quite shrewd.

You...falling in love again?? With him, of course.

So what cards did you pull for yourself?
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posted January 10, 2015 04:37 PM            

One card on your Knight of Swords: World.
I suppose you already know how you feel, so I'm focusing on his feelings: clarification by reasoning, with these two cards. The feelings are subjected to the scrutiny of the mind. Do you see something else, perhaps?

posted January 10, 2015 04:48 PM            

Anyway the cards I drew:

1. How he sees me now/ how I see him
King of Swords / King of Pentacles

2. What he feels for me now/I feel for him now
Star / 9 of pentacles

3. What the relationship means to him/to me
Ace of swords / Page of Pentacles

4. What he wants now from me/what I want from him
5 of swords / 8 of swords
(I am not exactly sure how to understand these cards. lol

Though interestingly the 5 of swords came up in terms of my daily reading yesterday, too, and yes, it turned out to be another occasion, where we were talking to each other. And again another occasion, where I was pretty much deciding when and where and how and what about. lol Not sure you can even call it a chat though. It was a little bit of role reversal I suppose)

5. What he will do next/ what I will do next (towards him, the relationship).
lovers/ Page of Cups

donīt ask me how these came up. lol

posted January 10, 2015 04:54 PM            

as for the ace of ups, it is a breaking open of emotions, not necessarily falling in love, not always. I hope so at least. lol

posted January 10, 2015 05:02 PM            

1. How he sees me now/ how I see him
King of Swords / King of Pentacles

he sees you as being distant, a bit inaccessible. You see him as a father, an accomplished man, artist, hard-working reliable etc.

2. What he feels for me now/I feel for him now
Star / 9 of pentacles

Hope and wish. Inspiration. A dream. You: a mature, tangible need of a relationship/affection for him, also the need to master your instincts/his, a romantic goal, steady and patient feelings, totally crystalized.

3. What the relationship means to him/to me
Ace of swords / Page of Pentacles

I'm gonna quote about this sword a nice quote from my files: The Ace of Swords is the Sword with which Alexander the Great cut the Gordian Knot (a symbol for all kinds of complications) Decision, clarification.

The Page: a great chance, a calling. Venus/Uranus as aspect is emblematic for the Page.

4. What he wants now from me/what I want from him
5 of swords / 8 of swords
(I am not exactly sure how to understand these cards. lol

Though interestingly the 5 of swords came up in terms of my daily reading yesterday, too, and yes, it turned out to be another occasion, where we were talking to each other. And again another occasion, where I was pretty much deciding when and where and how and what about. lol Not sure you can even call it a chat though. It was a little bit of role reversal I suppose)

Yeah, this is weird as wanting from soemone: you seem to be on a standby, defensive stance with what you want, he either has some dishonorable goal lol or wants you to fight one of his battles for him. I'm just reading the cards.

5. What he will do next/ what I will do next (towards him, the relationship).
lovers/ Page of Cups

This looks like a typical combo for two people declaring their love for each other.

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posted January 10, 2015 05:06 PM            

the cards I pulled for you

1. How he sees me now/ how I see him
10 of swords / 2 of swords

well this surely looks different than the 3 of cups you pulled. lol
Nevertheless I`d see it as the two of you being in a suspended state actually. A (temporary) standstill.
Maybe he also sees you as hurtfully honest and blunt, maybe he either sees you as being victimized by something or actively stabbing him.

You see him as indecisive mostly. Knowing a decision MUST be taken, but he just closes his eyes and hearts to not having to see this and do something about it.

2. What he feels for me now/I feel for him now
8 of pentacles / Sun

he has very tangible feelings for you, grounded, serious, committed.
You feel a lot of warmth, passion and generosity for him, maybe even like he is your soulmate.

3. What the relationship means to him/to me
Lovers/ 4 of cups
For him? Everything! THE relationship. Otherwise it might mean he has to make a very conscous decision FOR the relationship.

For you it seems at the moment you are withdrawing and pondering about its worth, maybe not quite seeing what it has to offer still or yet.

4. What he wants now from me/what I want from him
8 of cups / Death

very closely related cards. Moving on, total transformation. I think though it means transformation within or of the relationship.
Of course it could also mean you both want to end it, but somehow I donīt think so.

5. What he will do next/ what I will do next (towards him, the relationship).
8 of wands / King of Swords
Whatever he is doing, it should be quite swiftly. Sometimes the 8 of wands are messages, too.

posted January 10, 2015 05:17 PM            

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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
Leeloo,

the cards I pulled for you

1. How he sees me now/ how I see him
10 of swords / 2 of swords

well this surely looks different than the 3 of cups you pulled. lol
Nevertheless I`d see it as the two of you being in a suspended state actually. A (temporary) standstill.
Maybe he also sees you as hurtfully honest and blunt, maybe he either sees you as being victimized by something or actively stabbing him.

You see him as indecisive mostly. Knowing a decision MUST be taken, but he just closes his eyes and hearts to not having to see this and do something about it.

2. What he feels for me now/I feel for him now
8 of pentacles / Sun

he has very tangible feelings for you, grounded, serious, committed.
You feel a lot of warmth, passion and generosity for him, maybe even like he is your soulmate.

3. What the relationship means to him/to me
Lovers/ 4 of cups
For him? Everything! THE relationship. Otherwise it might mean he has to make a very conscous decision FOR the relationship.

For you it seems at the moment you are withdrawing and pondering about its worth, maybe not quite seeing what it has to offer still or yet.

4. What he wants now from me/what I want from him
8 of cups / Death

very closely related cards. Moving on, total transformation. I think though it means transformation within or of the relationship.
Of course it could also mean you both want to end it, but somehow I donīt think so.

5. What he will do next/ what I will do next (towards him, the relationship).
8 of wands / King of Swords
Whatever he is doing, it should be quite swiftly. Sometimes the 8 of wands are messages, too.

Your King is very analytically dissecting the situation and being smart about it, logical steps. Taking control, too.

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You know, it does fit, thank you
I was about to say the Sun doesn't suit my feelings, but seeing his feelings are "growing" up with those Pents, I did feel a bit of Sun hahahaha so you kinda predicted it, by pulling that card.

I certainly want Death, I hope his 8 of Cups means what I....hope lol

You got me a bit scared with the 8 of Wands, I hope he won't act towards me too soon, better put those Wands at work with himself, otherwise I'm gonna have to pull a King of Swords

posted January 10, 2015 05:24 PM            

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Originally posted by Ceridwen:

well this surely looks different than the 3 of cups you pulled. lol

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You will laugh, but this what is happened. I was the 3 of cups also turning into a deadly sword-thrower. Tragic, but that's the story. Of course, every sword I threw was one pulled from my own hart.

posted January 10, 2015 06:26 PM            

2. What he feels for me now/I feel for him now
Star / 9 of pentacles

"Hope and wish. Inspiration. A dream. You: a mature, tangible need of a relationship/affection for him, also the need to master your instincts/his, a romantic goal, steady and patient feelings, totally crystalized."

Well maybe. Interestingly the Star is also alittle inaccessible.

"The Ace of Swords is the Sword with which Alexander the Great cut the Gordian Knot (a symbol for all kinds of complications) Decision, clarification."
Well, a decision had to be made.
So I made it, settling into fanmode. sort of. A little. I don`t know.
It was as confusing as it was clear.

What he realized or was gaining clarity about I have no freaking clue.
He was acting weird as well, at least we are interacting weirdly now. lol
Or maybe that put an end to even that again.

"Yeah, this is weird as wanting from soemone: you seem to be on a standby, defensive stance with what you want"
It doesn`t really matter what I want I think.

"e either has some dishonorable goal lol or wants you to fight one of his battles for him. I'm just reading the cards."
LOL

"This looks like a typical combo for two people declaring their love for each other."
Yeah fat chance of that happening! NOT!