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Enneline Knowflake Posts: 2285 From: Registered: Nov 2012
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posted February 03, 2015 07:23 AM
quote: Originally posted by LeeLoo2014: Seriously, Ceri?? How about you ask what my dream means, and I ask about yours?I would like to have several point of views before telling you guys the dream, because I don't want to influence your spread. Enneline, would you ask for me too? about this: [b]I have found an important thing from the past I want to know about: a dream/vision from my childhood, I call it the Dream of the Two Suns. I would love to know what this dream means, what it is about ...I have a feeling it hasn't happened yet, but it will...soon! Thank you![/B]
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tgem Moderator Posts: 3775 From: Registered: Jan 2013
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posted February 03, 2015 07:30 AM
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LeeLoo2014 Moderator Posts: 10858 From: Venus cornering Neptune Registered: Mar 2014
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posted February 03, 2015 07:58 AM
quote: Originally posted by Enneline: Okay, I am doing a spread for your dream 2 suns? Or you tell me the dream and we play "dream-games" as I learned from my mentor
How about both? Or is it too much to ask? I would love to see a few Tarot cards about my dream, I have a little Leno collection here. The Dream Game...it sounds wonderful!!!! What is it? Do you have a dream you want me to ask about? Or something else? ------------------
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LeeLoo2014 Moderator Posts: 10858 From: Venus cornering Neptune Registered: Mar 2014
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posted February 03, 2015 08:11 AM
Tgem, I left a message for you here, did you see it? http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum18/HTML/000805.html My I Ching Love Oracle was the exact replica of your 3 spreads for my 1st wish ------------------
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Enneline Knowflake Posts: 2285 From: Registered: Nov 2012
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posted February 03, 2015 10:26 AM
ok, LeeLoo-darling, here are the cards I pulled for "LeeLoo & her 2 suns dream"- the sun (how ironic! ) - 8 of wands rev - king of swords I think this dream helps you to overcome blockades that hinder you to fulfill your dream. Yes, the sun indicates a new beginning/a lightful path to follow, 8 of wands rev indicate(emotional) problems and the king of swords just holds the victory (sword) Does that resonate? "the dream game" is a play with the symbols that appear in a dream. It's appropriate if you don't know the meanings of the symbols IP: Logged |
tgem Moderator Posts: 3775 From: Registered: Jan 2013
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posted February 03, 2015 11:16 AM
quote: Originally posted by LeeLoo2014: Tgem, I left a message for you here, did you see it? http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum18/HTML/000805.html My I Ching Love Oracle was the exact replica of your 3 spreads for my 1st wish
No I didn't see this! Thank you for bumping it for me! That's crazy!!! I mean wow....I don't know about the witch part..maybe LOL IP: Logged |
LeeLoo2014 Moderator Posts: 10858 From: Venus cornering Neptune Registered: Mar 2014
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posted February 03, 2015 04:29 PM
quote: Originally posted by tgem: No I didn't see this! Thank you for bumping it for me! That's crazy!!! I mean wow....I don't know about the witch part..maybe LOL
Oh, yeah
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LeeLoo2014 Moderator Posts: 10858 From: Venus cornering Neptune Registered: Mar 2014
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posted February 03, 2015 04:43 PM
quote: Originally posted by Enneline: ok, LeeLoo-darling, here are the cards I pulled for "LeeLoo & her 2 suns dream"- the sun (how ironic! ) - 8 of wands rev - king of swords I think this dream helps you to overcome blockades that hinder you to fulfill your dream. Yes, the sun indicates a new beginning/a lightful path to follow, 8 of wands rev indicate(emotional) problems and the king of swords just holds the victory (sword) Does that resonate? "the dream game" is a play with the symbols that appear in a dream. It's appropriate if you don't know the meanings of the symbols
What an amazing spread! You got me the Butterfly King awwww and the very issue here: the Sun Personally, I don't see the 8 of Sw as a negative card, it's Freedom!!!!! Out of prison baby! The prison in the 8th is one of the mind rather than physical, a state of mind. Here I'm freed by the Warrior King in person lol Of course, the most amazing interpretation about your whole spread is: ILLUMINATION. I was blind and tied up before. This is how it's supposed to be It's about seeing things in their real light for the first time; they are all around us, we just don't see them until we're ready; and we can't use our body and everything else until we're ready. Every previous state looks like a prison, an incredible unbelievable limitation. You don't know how much this spread means to me, Enneline! I have three people from different corners of the worlds already drawing for me (in the 2015 events thread) 8 of Swords + Ace of Swords. Three times! This is perhaps the most exhilarating discovery I have made with this wonderful community: the existence of a mind network. A record, the Akashic one without a doubt, on a certain matter, that people no matter where they are can access and be your messengers, your angels That's why I am saying using Tarot, astrology, divination to understand the journey of our souls and our connections is such an amazing tool! Here the Sword of Truth or the one piercing a new veil of the mind is brought by the King himself. Thank you so much, all of you! I will describe the dream and analyze each reading. ------------------
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Enneline Knowflake Posts: 2285 From: Registered: Nov 2012
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posted February 04, 2015 07:34 AM
quote: Originally posted by LeeLoo2014: What an amazing spread! You got me the Butterfly King awwww and the very issue here: the Sun Personally, I don't see the 8 of Sw as a negative card, it's Freedom!!!!! Out of prison baby! The prison in the 8th is one of the mind rather than physical, a state of mind. Here I'm freed by the Warrior King in person lol Of course, the most amazing interpretation about your whole spread is: ILLUMINATION. I was blind and tied up before. This is how it's supposed to be It's about seeing things in their real light for the first time; they are all around us, we just don't see them until we're ready; and we can't use our body and everything else until we're ready. Every previous state looks like a prison, an incredible unbelievable limitation. You don't know how much this spread means to me, Enneline! I have three people from different corners of the worlds already drawing for me (in the 2015 events thread) 8 of Swords + Ace of Swords. Three times! This is perhaps the most exhilarating discovery I have made with this wonderful community: the existence of a mind network. A record, the Akashic one without a doubt, on a certain matter, that people no matter where they are can access and be your messengers, your angels That's why I am saying using Tarot, astrology, divination to understand the journey of our souls and our connections is such an amazing tool! Here the Sword of Truth or the one piercing a new veil of the mind is brought by the King himself. Thank you so much, all of you! I will describe the dream and analyze each reading.
Sooo happy to make you happy
Have you "collected" the symbols of your dream? If so, we'd be ready to play
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LeeLoo2014 Moderator Posts: 10858 From: Venus cornering Neptune Registered: Mar 2014
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posted February 04, 2015 01:03 PM
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LeeLoo2014 Moderator Posts: 10858 From: Venus cornering Neptune Registered: Mar 2014
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posted February 05, 2015 12:46 PM
This one was a superconscious dream, as Jung calls them. You recognize them because they have a different sensorial/feeling atmosphere, like tuning in to a different frequency. The brainwaves are certainly different for this type of dreams, and most likely the activated location (brain area) as well. I had this dream in childhood. I was on my balcony and looked at the sky, to the west, where a second smaller Sun was approaching, getting bigger; there were two suns for a while. There were people looking at them too, in awe and with great happiness and bewilderment. Me too, I was exhilarated like never before or after. One day, the two Suns became one and exploded on me (and the whole Earth, I suppose), engulfed me. The energy, the feeling was similar to von trier’s Melancholia, the scene when Melancholia hits the Earth and the last scene with the two ladies and the child. There was no fear though, but the feeling of something long awaited finally happening, and very surprising the fact that it DOES happen after all. There was a blank (or black) moment after this, a cut in the dream. The next scene was a brand new world. The feeling of brand new world was incommensurable. It was somehow futuristic and the part of it I was focusing on was a building, crystal-like, like a big crystal or a ship. A deconstructivistic building, if you know Gehry. It was in the middle of a forest or a park. In fact, this world was very green. I was descending on this location from the sky and it was interesting, I was feeling like a blank page, like being totally new, a new me. I’ve been thinking for a long time this is a an apocalyptic dream. When I was a child, apocalyptic dreams were not in vogue. Anyway, the apocalypse scenario held this flaw: what happens after. Recently, due to esoteric events lol in my life and my personal evolution, I realized this must be an inner event, at least the suns part. I had this clear feeling the Sun merging is an inner event, what follows is something actually happening. We will see. There is only one astronomical event in the future which could lead to this possible two suns scenario (scenarios known to man at this point): Betelgeuse going supernova; however this event will probably look like a huge star on the night and day sky, possibly as big as the moon. It is weird however a few years ago I had a link of events leading to me studying Orion and I actually have a little map of Orion with Betelgeuse on my wall in front of me as we speak. My chart has a major Sun/Moon inner integration theme and notice the idea of a smaller sun (the other luminary, the moon) merging with the sun. I am so pleasantly surprised to see in your spreads the connection between this event and the soulmate, the twinsoul. Well, they do say once the inner marriage takes place, the outer marriage will follow.
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LeeLoo2014 Moderator Posts: 10858 From: Venus cornering Neptune Registered: Mar 2014
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posted February 05, 2015 01:10 PM
I will just add a few thoughts to your wonderful spreads and interpretation;Tgem "have found an important thing from the past I want to know about: a dream/vision from my childhood, I call it the Dream of the Two Suns. I would love to know what this dream means, what it is about ...I have a feeling it hasn't happened yet, but it will...soon!" Flowers-stars-dog-stork-whip Wow..look at all those positive cards. I was looking for a card to represent "two's" of something so I pulled a final clarifier card but pulled the moon! Ok you're going to need to work with me here: dog is the central card. I see this in your case as a soulmate card vs. Just a friendship card. Stars very positive for acknowledging the dream about a positive change with a soulmate? Emotional, happy discussions lead to positve changes. I do find it interesting that I pulled both the Stars and the moon, yet your dream focuses on 2 suns. What's your thought on this? Tgem, I already identified Moon Stars sometimes Birds as combos when I draw night GT’s or spreads and the person is sleeping. Moon Stars shows the dream. Plus Stars: two Suns I love to see a soulmate card as focus for your spread. I think Whip Moon here stands for the “violent” and very emotional event, yet so happy. A great and very positive change/transformation with Flowers Stars Stork ( a dream comes true). Whip also stands for a young man. Whip is a dual and repettive card (Whip + Broom) Dani
I got for you, LeeLoo2014, about this dream Tree - Snake - Bear - Flowers - Key Very interesting... Seems like this dream is about you taking some responsabilities (think about the sun, it needs to bring life to the planet!! Or at least part of it hum?). This one brings to you the key responsability of your life! Ok. But with hard work, the flowers come too!! This is the beggining of it, don't worry, as things need to be stronger to resist some storms around the world!! Tree Snake Bear tell me that you need to become a little more flexible to work with this. From this dream on, you started this process... The Bear. The amazing part about the Bear connects with Ceri’s vision. She saw it in a position typical for grizzly bears when they’re displaying power, especially with the roar, although the simple standing posture for bears is when something catches their attention and they need to smell see etc better. I think the Bear here stands for the power of this event and its consequences. Tree Snake, when it\s not about disease, whenever I see it, I think of the lost paradise. Bear is my native American totem animal (zodiac) and as a symbol, apart from its formidable strength/power, it usually stands for coming out of hybernation. I think the event here is the Bear and leads to the Key of paradise. Bear is a double symbol of rebirth due to his connection with maternity (giving birth to oneself) Ceri, Leeloo, I was focusing on you and the dream of the two suns, and I got two very weird images coming up (happens sometimes). One was the feeling of a very hot and dry desert (which is the definition of desert I guess) and the other was a big brown bear getting on his paws, standing upright and roaring. Very weird. Nevertheless your cards Bouquet - lady - lily - Sun - Moon You say it were nightmares, yet all I can see in that spread is the shared love, romantic, sexual, soulful between soulmates. Ceri, apart from what I said about the Bear, I see your desert as a symbol for the event itself, a cataclysm, a tabula rasa. Your spread for me is very beautiful and it contains the third Bouquet for me We can also see the event, the union of the two suns, in Sun Moon which are very similar cards in leno (vsually: two equal suns) But as I said before, this union of two suns could actually be the equal union of the Sun/Moon energy. Lily in the middle can be the soulmate, but also faith and protection. Great and prefect spread! Tulipe, Lee without your permission I pulled Leno for your dream and what it means to you Heart Anchor Birds Woman Stork Sun clarifies Stork This dream is a Soulmate dream, a committed relationship with your significant other. It is a union of 2 souls and you have in your hands the power to make that happens. You're at the edge of changes, could it mean a child is on the way too? ^^ Sun as a clarifyer : the 'light at the end of the tunnel'. It tells you to be strong, believe in yourself, take charge! Thank you dear you got luminary too, and the Sun! What can I say? A new woman, rebirth, maybe motherhood (Woman Stork), falling in love, a higher committed love (Heart Anchor Stork Sun) and the Birds, one of the major soulmate cards: as you can see in Piatnik, they are a pair flying in sync, not identical, but with the same flight (well, males are usually the pretty ones, with birds lol) Enneline, ok, LeeLoo-darling, here are the cards I pulled for "LeeLoo & her 2 suns dream" - the sun (how ironic! ) - 8 of wands rev - king of swords I think this dream helps you to overcome blockades that hinder you to fulfill your dream. Yes, the sun indicates a new beginning/a lightful path to follow, 8 of wands rev indicate(emotional) problems and the king of swords just holds the victory (sword) Does that resonate? "the dream game" is a play with the symbols that appear in a dream. It's appropriate if you don't know the meanings of the symbols You got my soulmate here for me too, but I think this spread is the most enlightening in terms of the change happening in the mind, in relation to this event. Sun is here too! How amazing! As it happens, my current life stage is Temperance and if successful, it will be followed by the Sun. The King of Sw is the last Minor Arcana card (in RW). His sword is the sword of truth and that of the higher mind and knowledge. As you can see on this card, his symbol is the butterflies, and this leads me to another vision I had, about two butterflies flying in sync, circling each other, in the sun! He heralds the transformation of the mind and the victory of mind over matter. The two butterflies become one here, and we can also see the two luminaries merging (two crescent Moons). Archangel Michael, the warrior angel, whispers in his left ear, suggesting that, although this is a rational king, the illumination came through the left path of intuition and divine messages (the right hemisphere). As it happens, Michael is the same angel in Temperance. Here too we can see the alchemical marriage between the two Suns (or Sun and Moon): the two suns in the card, one is Sahasrara, the other is the Sun over the mountain (sometimes read as volcano) and the two suns in the two chalices, gold and silver united by rainbow as fluid. Thank you again, all of you, this dream has been an incredible journey. Anyone wants to ask questions today?
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Ceridwen Moderator Posts: 18582 From: Registered: Jul 2011
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posted February 05, 2015 02:54 PM
maybe I can ask a question intead?IP: Logged |
I'm so cappy Knowflake Posts: 9778 From: Death Star Registered: Nov 2012
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posted February 05, 2015 03:00 PM
Lol, never mind, didn't read Lee's post.------------------ I'm sooo happy! I mean, cappy. IP: Logged |
LeeLoo2014 Moderator Posts: 10858 From: Venus cornering Neptune Registered: Mar 2014
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posted February 05, 2015 03:06 PM
is Bienor eating this?Anyway, ceri, i wanted to say i will never forget your dreams or what you said about them, about the subtle molecular change ------------------
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LeeLoo2014 Moderator Posts: 10858 From: Venus cornering Neptune Registered: Mar 2014
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posted February 05, 2015 03:12 PM
Cappy, if you want, you can ask what was M's first impression of me Ceri, what is your question? ------------------
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I'm so cappy Knowflake Posts: 9778 From: Death Star Registered: Nov 2012
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posted February 05, 2015 03:15 PM
quote: Cappy, if you want, you can ask what was M's first impression of me
Are you sure?
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LeeLoo2014 Moderator Posts: 10858 From: Venus cornering Neptune Registered: Mar 2014
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posted February 05, 2015 03:17 PM
quote: Originally posted by I'm so cappy: [QUOTE]Cappy, if you want, you can ask what was M's first impression of me
Are you sure? [/QUOTE]
yeah, don't worry, throw the dice lol
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tgem Moderator Posts: 3775 From: Registered: Jan 2013
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posted February 05, 2015 03:19 PM
I'm thrilled your dream was figured out through all of our spreads. It really shows how the universe is connecting through all of us. It's really amazing can someone pull to see what I can expect this weekend? IP: Logged |
Ceridwen Moderator Posts: 18582 From: Registered: Jul 2011
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posted February 05, 2015 03:24 PM
quote: Originally posted by LeeLoo2014: is Bienor eating this?Anyway, ceri, i wanted to say i will never forget your dreams or what you said about them, about the subtle molecular change
maybe it was just meant to share with you (and who read it on here).
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Ceridwen Moderator Posts: 18582 From: Registered: Jul 2011
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posted February 05, 2015 03:26 PM
quote: Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:
Ceri, what is your question?
What does PF really think of me, or actually does he like me or doesn`t he? (in the most of general terms) It just puzzles me, he is not even talking all that much to me (though we do generally talk of course. lol), but whenever I tell something about myself (to other colleagues), I can sense (and see from the corner of my eyes) how intently he is listening.
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Ceridwen Moderator Posts: 18582 From: Registered: Jul 2011
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posted February 05, 2015 03:27 PM
what is your question for me? IP: Logged |
LeeLoo2014 Moderator Posts: 10858 From: Venus cornering Neptune Registered: Mar 2014
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posted February 05, 2015 03:29 PM
Check this out: Fire + Water http://www.whats-your-sign.com/five-fold-celtic-meanings.html http://www.symbolic-meanings.com/2008/01/02/symbolism-of-the-compass-meaning-of-the-four-directions/ http://www.paganlore.com/directions.aspx I will draw for you, tgem. ------------------
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LeeLoo2014 Moderator Posts: 10858 From: Venus cornering Neptune Registered: Mar 2014
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posted February 05, 2015 03:30 PM
quote: Originally posted by Ceridwen: maybe it was just meant to share with you (and who read it on here).
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LeeLoo2014 Moderator Posts: 10858 From: Venus cornering Neptune Registered: Mar 2014
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posted February 05, 2015 03:31 PM
I.m afraid to write on this thread now, for fear it will disappear lol OK, brb with your readingsIP: Logged | |