posted July 02, 2015 09:23 AM            

Can you do that spread for me, too?

posted July 02, 2015 09:27 AM            

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Originally posted by Orange:
Dani, he did run away on a horse, huh? lol

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Sure I can!! I'll pull for you right now!

Can you do that spread for me, too?
Seems like things are going down south here, no hope for reconciliation.
LoLo was right - coffin and stuff...

posted July 02, 2015 09:46 AM            

1. The bad stuff you said or did that caused damage to the relationship:
Mountain

Seems like you put some restrictions on this person and, for the reason, made this person feels like no love from your part.

2. The underlying reason for your action
Cross
You wanted to know this person better, you treat yourself like your temple and no one who isn't dignified to enter it. I have the sense that this person wanted to have all of you, body, mind and soul... jus tfor the benefit of this...

3. How this put a wedge between you and your beloved
Fox
Things started to look awful, misundestandings and the feeling of being fooled arise very strong in this person. You felt like this too. The running away thing is present here.

4. What reaction this triggered in your beloved
Sun
Ego rising of his part. He started to put a lot of energy on his self-blind image and start to say that he's more than you.

5. How he retaliated or withdrew
Child
Again, acting like a child, egoist, that child that wants attention just to satisfy his own ego wanting...

6. Grace to be invoked from on High (pull an Angel card for this one)
PS: I don't have angels cards...
Mountain
You need to invoke your tough side, to show this person that anything from the ego wants are nonsense. He needs to grow old and assume things sometimes don't go in the way we plan/wants. I do have the feeling that Archangel Michael can bring some good energy for you now (intuition here).

7. Your best possible reconciliatory move
Heart
Ok, show him that you're a loving person, that the rudeness of the last card is just for things that is a non sense and that you won't praise every little thing he does, but feelings are still there.

8. Most likely outcome
Tree
The outcome will come in a slow way. AS a neutral card, I pulled one more to clarify if yes or no... Whip. Seems like this man will continue on his egocentric way, and things will fade away... Abuse from his part will be triggered and you'll finally know that is better to leave...

posted July 02, 2015 11:23 AM            

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Originally posted by Orange:
ok, Lee

I am now going to do the Truth spread for you and R, aka "Bear".

Here it goes....

1a. What you expect:
BEAR . ha!You hope for the Bear
1b. What he expects:
MAN
He expect to be the only man for you. Da man!
2a. Your hopes:
Bouquet and Snake - You hope for romance, fun and spiritual connection
2b: His hopes:
TOWER - He wants that only you and he exist secluded together. He is very possessive that one.
3a. Your fears:
CLOUDS - you fear uncertainty, problems
3b. His fears:
Crossroads - he obviously doesn't like lurking back and forth, wants a clear path
4a. Strength:
WHIP - oh yeah, the chemistry, the passion
4b: Weakness:
SHIP - are you too separated by the sea, or in different countries?
5 : The Truth:
HEART + CHILD
True Love and innocence

Amen!

( is he a taurus, btw?)

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awwww thank you sweets!

he is scorpio/pisces/virgo, but strong pluto and saturn, he is like a Bear (think of the Bear in the movie with Brigitte Bardot

posted July 02, 2015 11:24 AM            

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Originally posted by Orange:
Dani,

Sounds about right! Thank you for doing this spread for me.
We are meeting tonight and there will be a talk, im getting tired of this back and forth rolling on our issues.
Hope tonight we reach some conclusion whether to continue this or abandon it all together

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posted July 02, 2015 01:14 PM            

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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
Oh the spread invented for me! Damage control!
All I am trying to do.
Anyone want to exchang?

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posted July 02, 2015 01:15 PM            

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Originally posted by Orange:
What "liquids" are you talking about, hun? Im naturally curious now lol

Yeah, i dont know about tonight. I guess it will be the coffin from your reading. Followed by the ring ( again and again) and the stars

I just talked to him in his office. I made him laugh again. We actually bursted with laughter (exact Jupiter Venus trine in syn) . I asked him if he was going away for the weekend and he said - "ah, what do you care if id be here or not. You already broke us off, you divorced us. You left me. You never really loved me, or you wouldnt have done to me "
Yeah, he does like to play the victim.
Nothing will be resolved tonight. I guess we both, as proud individuals as we are, will say - ok, bye! Good luck!
And then , the ring comes...

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posted July 02, 2015 01:39 PM            

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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
I pulled one for Venus of Scorpio last night, but int he past position).

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don't you put it in my future! hahahaha

posted July 02, 2015 01:46 PM            

The bad stuff you said or did that caused damage to the relationship:
6 of wands

Did you take him for granted? Or maybe felt superior to him? Or maybe he felt like you were far out of his league, like he couldnīt quite reach your level.

2. The underlying reason for your action
9 of pentacles
You were very balanced, and content on your own. While you certainly love him, you are not dependent on anybody. Your confidence stems from that feeling of being your own person.

3. How this put a wedge between you and your beloved
Sun

No clue, really. How is the Sun putting a wedge between anybody?
Maybe again reemphasizing that he felt a little inferior to you? Like you were sort of a star he couldnīt reach (in his opinion).

4. What reaction this triggered in your beloved
Page of Swords
Some sharp words and then hurrying away (well running away maybe even).
With the Page here he might have acted a little immature especially in terms of choosing the wrong words, maybe saying some hurtful things (which do not even have to be true).

5. How he retaliated or withdrew
Hierophant
He withdrew any natural emotional reaction, and just stuck to the status-quo or a more official rigid pattern of communicating, if there was communication at all.
Unless he tried to lecture you of course. lol

6. Grace to be invoked from on High (pull an Angel card for this one)
Queen of Pentacles
Stay true to yourself, being grounded, practical, supportive, sensual.

7. Your best possible reconciliatory move
Hanged Man
It could mean changing your perspective totally, but my instant thought was actually to sit back and wait patiently, he`ll come around most probably, given time.

posted July 02, 2015 01:50 PM            

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Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:

don't you put it in my future! hahahaha

just kidding!

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posted July 02, 2015 01:56 PM            

1. The bad stuff you said or did that caused damage to the relationship:

QoP

I'm not sure it's something you did or said, or simply the existence of a 3rd party

2. The underlying reason for your action

7 of Swords

I think this card here shows the problems between the two of you are in the secret/oh well 7th of sw potential of the relationship. By this, I mean it's the situation itself causing conflicts, if any
I don't think you deliberately caused a 7th of sw situation.

3. How this put a wedge between you and your beloved

3 of swords

sorry, but what I see here is the trio theme, rather than heartbreak

4. What reaction this triggered in your beloved

8 of wands Magician 6 of pentacles

this must be your last interaction. there is a need here to give balance in an unbalanced situation by one's action/attitude/will and the need to make a quick decision to have a quick reaction, but there's a connflict between the energy of the first two cards and the 6, which is a rather slow card. he felt the need to take control on his emotions, for the sake of everyone involved. he needs to tackle and consider several things, a Libra action here.

5. How he retaliated or withdrew

Tower

cutting contact? retreating into one's tower?

6. Grace to be invoked from on High (pull an Angel card for this one)

9 of pentacles

the importance to be by oneself now, to take a break, enjoy a holiday, take things slowly, enjoy life; the importance of beauty, grace, elegance

7. Your best possible reconciliatory move

knight of swords

charging?? nah, I think it says let the man prove himself as a knight.

8. Most likely outcome

ace of swords

clarity, victory

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I seem to have loved you in numberless forms...

AstroMandala

posted July 02, 2015 02:11 PM            

and your lovely spread.

Strange spread with good cards for the bad stuff. lol

" Or maybe he felt like you were far out of his league, like he couldnīt quite reach your level."

Duh!!

Just kidding!

One possible interpretation here: being on a crusade, oh yes, I think it fits.

2. The underlying reason for your action
9 of pentacles
You were very balanced, and content on your own. While you certainly love him, you are not dependent on anybody. Your confidence stems from that feeling of being your own person.

great interpretation!

3. How this put a wedge between you and your beloved
Sun
Like you were sort of a star he couldnīt reach (in his opinion).

This must be it, no doubt about it!

kidding again!

This is interesting indeed. Sun could be a future goal, an ideal, that either is reached, or things can't happen. Or even a wish upon a star, raising the stake here. It goes well with the 6 of Wands too.

"4. What reaction this triggered in your beloved
Page of Swords
Some sharp words and then hurrying away (well running away maybe even).
With the Page here he might have acted a little immature especially in terms of choosing the wrong words, maybe saying some hurtful things (which do not even have to be true).

5. How he retaliated or withdrew
Hierophant
He withdrew any natural emotional reaction, and just stuck to the status-quo or a more official rigid pattern of communicating, if there was communication at all.
Unless he tried to lecture you of course. lol"

absolutely wonderful and spot on cards interpretation on what happened/happens. He didn't say hurtful things, but he has trouble expressing himself with words, except for poetry, when he is emotional and he is trying, learning etc. He loves words and picks each one, one by one. He feels handicapped by not being perfect with words. Despite this, his 1st house Pluto ruling his 3rd makes him one of the most persuasive people I met (another great meaning of PoS and Hierophant here!); he could convince you it's night when it's day hahaha he didn't try to lie me or anything, he is very sincere, but he is trying to convince himself of things that aren't right (such as his pathological jealousy) and he can be very good at it.

6. Grace to be invoked from on High (pull an Angel card for this one)
Queen of Pentacles
Stay true to yourself, being grounded, practical, supportive, sensual.

7. Your best possible reconciliatory move
Hanged Man
It could mean changing your perspective totally, but my instant thought was actually to sit back and wait patiently, he`ll come around most probably, given time.

This one is such a wonderfully clear message to the querent for: don't make a move lol

8. Most likely outcome
Lovers
Well, that is clear. He will come around again and you will choose the road to love once more.

Thank you again for these cards, great tarot lesson and lovely prediction!

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I seem to have loved you in numberless forms...

AstroMandala

posted July 02, 2015 04:12 PM            

<"By this, I mean it's the situation itself causing conflicts, if any
I don't think you deliberately caused a 7th of sw situation."a
Yes, I can see that.
Nevertheless if we press the rewind button and look to summer 2012, I can see how maybe my sneaking around, and tiptoing around. my constant repeated disappearance acts, might have contributed to the situation we have now.

I just would never have thought that he could like me and that we actually could have had a chance. Maybe we wouldn`t have really, but I excluded even the faint possibility and thought my unbalanced behaviour (and appearance) didnīt matter for that reason that I did not matter, so he wouldnīt mind at all, no matter what I did.
But lately it seems he DID mind, or maybe just does nowadays.

"sorry, but what I see here is the trio theme, rather than heartbreak"
LOL
This made me actually laugh. Couldn`t be more fitting I suppose.

"this must be your last interaction. there is a need here to give balance in an unbalanced situation by one's action/attitude/will and the need to make a quick decision to have a quick reaction, but there's a connflict between the energy of the first two cards and the 6, which is a rather slow card. he felt the need to take control on his emotions, for the sake of everyone involved. he needs to tackle and consider several things, a Libra action here."!
Yes, trying to find a balance, somewho, and doing so with the way he can, as a SAg and a performer.

"Tower

cutting contact? retreating into one's tower?"
Yes, partially, and then alternating with abruptly approaching me in sudden ways that almost seem like an attack. lol

"the importance to be by oneself now, to take a break, enjoy a holiday, take things slowly, enjoy life; the importance of beauty, grace, elegance"
That`s what I do, actually.

Well tomorrow my family and me will go to another open air concert, this time I think it is opera and classical music. So it is not just him I am going to see.

"knight of swords

charging?? nah, I think it says let the man prove himself as a knight."
Clear communication? Swift, quick, direct? But not too emotional?
Though I like your interpretation as well.

"8. Most likely outcome

ace of swords

clarity, victory"§
I like that outcome. Clarity is so important.