posted July 24, 2015 12:53 PM            

Card #1 - What is the overall karmic meaning of this relationship, why have you met again, and what are you the two of you supposed to be working out?
Mountain
Hum... seems like a new difficulty here agian, I felt it like a repeating situation in this lifetime. You need to overcome things to get together.

Card #2 - What is the Querent's karmic inheritance, i.e., what do you bring to this re-meet?
Sun
Ahhhh you're his sunshine! You bring your light and all the bright side of an already experiencied soul, ready to create things at a touch of Universe's main energy (I'm a little poetic today... maybe because of the rain...)

Card #3 - What is the Karmic Partner's inheritance, i.e., what does he/she bring to this re-meet?
Ship
He seems to bring to your relationship the baggage of many adventures, many knowledges and teachings. He is eager to teach you all that he learned and to see you applying the teachings... Yeah, too much of a Sagg here hum??

Card #4 - What is the past of this karmic relationship (the past life)?
Whip
I see more like pain here. Maybe you here forced to be apart, one could ended up in death by someone's interest in you. Remember those fathers who didn't want to marry certain guys with the daughters, Like Romeo and Juliet? Same thing here. BUT I saw sex here too (I'm a little naughy today! Sorry!)

Card #5 - What are the Querent's past burdens, hopes or fears?
Lily
You really are a pure soul, and even with all those knowledge, you fear that people can take advantage of you, and you end up alone. You hope to form a family.

Card #6 - What are the Karmic Partner's past burdens, hopes or fears?
Woman
He hopes for a woman, a powerful one. He only wants his true one!!

Card #7 - What does the Karmic Partner mean to the Querent at this time?
Key
The key to happiness, the key to make life as simple as possible and even through bad times, with a smile on his face. He means all that you need to be ok in the world.

Card #8 -What does the Querent mean to the Karmic Partner?
Birds
Communication. A pair of birds, the pair of light. You mean to him the perfect communication partner, the perfect couple.

Card #9 - What can the Querent do for this re-meet/relationship now?
Mice
Here is stop worrying with all the details. Let the Universe do the work, you already do a alot.

Card #10 -What can the Karmic Partner do for this re-meet/relationship now?
Stars
He needs to have hope. I sensed that he isn't the one who goes after he wants, and let things as they are. He needs to trust in the Above, to trust in his intuitions too. As a spiritual sign, he needs to do this, his soul will thank him later.

Card #11 - What is the FINAL OUTCOME (the axis) of this reading
Ring

posted July 24, 2015 02:06 PM            

thank you dear.

" felt it like a repeating situation in this lifetime. You need to overcome things to get together."
It certainly feels close to the truth. I mean there has been a lot of delaying going on here. And I feel that partly the reason for this is a certain stubbornness on both sides, and of course the obstacles inherent in the situation. And at least speaking for myself, insecurities.

"Sun
Ahhhh you're his sunshine!"
LOL
Sweet.

I think you might be right though. In the very least I seem to be able to brighten his day a little when I am around, energize him.
He responds rather strongly to my presence int he audience and how I react to certain things. I guess I am a pretty good audience. lol

"He is eager to teach you all that he learned and to see you applying the teachings... Yeah, too much of a Sagg here hum?? "
Yes, I noticed that as well. Even the first time we met he was explaining things to me, teaching me about something. lol
It is cute actually, he does that a lot, the teaching.
Even on his concerts, it is his "educational mission" as he sais to teach us invaluable information noone knew before or cared to know of or need to know of. lol

"BUT I saw sex here too (I'm a little naughy today! Sorry!)"
No problem.
I see also repetition here and quarrels. a sexual relationship or affair maybe with nothing else to build on.

"p worrying with all the details. Let the Universe do the work, you already do a alot."
Yes, I know. though it is difficult to let go of wanting to control things. However, the moment I do, it seems he takes over or maybe the universe does.
In fact me worrying or analysing or planning seems to worsen things rather than smoothen them. lol

posted July 24, 2015 02:49 PM            

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Originally posted by Orange:
Ceri and Dani,

I will do your readings later on in the day, work load picked up right now.

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posted July 24, 2015 03:32 PM            

Card #1 - Tree
The relationship itself is a tree that needs to be watered. And it is your life together: grow grow grow!! Together you will make this tree of life to grow with strong roots.

Card #2 - Stork
To be like a stork, with grace and beauty. you can make movings too, changing the ways you need to move. You bring the power of the movement inside this relationship, for not let it falls in the "same thing" thing...

Card #3 - Clouds
To make room for the clear speaking, clear situations. The cleaning person of the relationship. This person can be a diplomatic too.

Card #4 - Bear
Responsabilities. You were drowned by too many of them, and I sense that was a little room for romantic demonstrations. A hard life.

Card #5 - Mountain
You fear to be on top. To be a tough person, that kind of person who is difficult to deal.

Card #6 - Woman
Hoping to find the true partner of his life!!

Card #7 - Lily
Family, pure things, elevate person... The feeling of protection in the house.

Card #8 - Rider
Someone that is always on the go. The one that will go after that you both need to make life better.

Card #9 - Cross
You really believe that this is a fated encounter. You just need to live your life and let the Creator ditact the day you'll meet again!

Card #10 - Fish
Making life more nice! Working for get enough money to have a good life to chare with his beloved one! He believes in soulmates too and will wait the right time!!

Card #11 - Key
The main relationship of your lives!! A great one, great share of energies.

posted July 24, 2015 04:32 PM            

just posting the cards for now and I will come back for the interpretations later

Card #1 - What is the overall karmic meaning of this relationship, why have you met again, and what are you the two of you supposed to be working out?

TREE
A crush becomes true love.
Patience. you have to be patient and tend to the seed of this little flirt. This process of ripening can’t be sped up by anything, keep the goal in mind but also enjoy every stop of the way toward it.

Card #2 - What is the Querent's karmic inheritance, i.e., what do you bring to this re-meet?

LETTER

Communicating unspoken words from the past. The envelope in the image is sealed. It is not clear what the information you bring to this life is about.

Card #3 - What is the Karmic Partner's inheritance, i.e., what does he/she bring to this re-meet?

CLOVER

A chance meeting, at the right moment. A crush. Too short thou but left a lasting impression of "what shoulda, coulda, woulda" feeling

Card #4 - What is the past of this karmic relationship (the past life)?

CROSSROADS

Two alternative options were presented in the past - to take or to leave. Since you crossed paths again in this life, I assume the path that was taken back in the past was to go separate ways

Card #5 - What are the Querent's past burdens, hopes or fears?

RING

You were married. He was single.

Card #6 - What are the Karmic Partner's past burdens, hopes or fears?

MOON

He was in love with you but you were taken.

Card #7 - What does the Karmic Partner mean to the Querent at this time?

LILLY

everything rolled in one - sex, love, lust, admiration

Card #8 -What does the Querent mean to the Karmic Partner?

MOUNTAIN

impossible to happen

Card #9 - What can the Querent do for this re-meet/relationship now?

FOX

flirt, be proactive maybe?

Card #10 -What can the Karmic Partner do for this re-meet/relationship now?

BOUQUET

someone please bring a bouquet and smile at each other

Card #11 - What is the FINAL OUTCOME (the axis) of this reading

TOWER

posted July 24, 2015 04:52 PM            

Just not enoug time at the mo

posted July 24, 2015 11:32 PM            

I just read your spread for me again and it makes so much sense! Thank you.

Here is your spread for your future love of your life. It's beautiful!

Card #1 - What is the overall karmic meaning of this relationship, why have you met again, and what are you the two of you supposed to be working out?

CROSS

Fate will bring you together. Either a literal religious event or simply a fateful encounter.

Card #2 - What is the Querent's karmic inheritance, i.e., what do you bring to this re-meet?

DOG
Faith. Loyalty and devotion

Card #3 - What is the Karmic Partner's inheritance, i.e., what does he/she bring to this re-meet?

SNAKE
a different outlook on life. He will take you on a journey away from troubles

Card #4 - What is the past of this karmic relationship (the past life)?

BOUQUET

Romance! Joy and happiness.

Card #5 - What are the Querent's past burdens, hopes or fears?

TREE

You were very ill and possibly died before you developed a love connection

Card #6 - What are the Karmic Partner's past burdens, hopes or fears?

WOMAN

He had been hurt by women in the past and is very wary of women in this life again

Card #7 - What does the Karmic Partner mean to the Querent at this time?

FISH

An ocean of emotion - deep and everlasting. Soulful connection.

Card #8 -What does the Querent mean to the Karmic Partner?

CROSSROADS

he will have to choose between you and something else. Looking at the outcome card - the Ring - he will choose you.

Card #9 - What can the Querent do for this re-meet/relationship now?

GARDEN

Go out and mingle. Go to parties, or out in the nature more often. You will meet him there.

Card #10 -What can the Karmic Partner do for this re-meet/relationship now?

BIRDS

Talk, chat you up, initiate the first conversation

Card #11 - What is the FINAL OUTCOME (the axis) of this reading

RING!!!!

posted July 25, 2015 03:18 AM            

for example Dani is for me so closely tied to the Lily card now, and it shows up in every reading, and I usually interprete it in direction of Mr lily and romance and sex.
And Orange, since you started speaking of the jealousy issues, I noticed that my spreads for you very often (though not always) contain the bear and I usually find myself thinking: Aha jealousy again.

Instead of maybe taking into account it could be something to do with power, wealth or your mother.

I noticed that in other readings, too, especially of people who read a lot for each other, that the readings seem to express our perspective or opinion on something very much.

I am not sure this can be prevented, but it just makes me wonder, how much readings and interpretations are really influenced by our own mind.

posted July 25, 2015 08:46 AM            

that is exactly what I mean, yes.

In a way it`s funny, I often find the readings more fitting if people do not know about the background situation. Not always though.
I also noticed that there seems to be some days that are better for cardreading than other days. Of course all of this is highly subjective.

posted July 25, 2015 10:20 AM            

Lets do the tarot

posted July 25, 2015 10:33 AM            

Card #1 - What is the overall karmic meaning of this relationship, why have you met again, and what are you the two of you supposed to be working out?

7 of pentacles

You have to learn patience and letting things evolve slowly, and keep the faith even though you may not see some instant gratification or results. They are growing slowly, just like this relationship is built to last.

Card #2 - What is the Querent's karmic inheritance, i.e., what do you bring to this re-meet?
2 of swords

You might have closed your heart in the past, and being indecisive about this relationship, which might today show up as living too muhc in your head at times and not seeing the depth of feeling that is already present (see the Moon and water as emotional symbols in the card?)

Card #3 - What is the Karmic Partner's inheritance, i.e., what does he/she bring to this re-meet?

Temperance

balance, patience, endurance. the ability to stick to you despite you two having very different temperaments and personalities.

Card #4 - What is the past of this karmic relationship (the past life)?

Knight of Wands

a stormy tempestuous extremely sexual and passionate affair, but not very long lasting, and possibly built soley on sexual gratification resulting in burning out quickly.

Card #5 - What are the Querent's past burdens, hopes or fears?

5 of cups

You possibly felt deserted, regretting the losing of the relationship and felt sad and desperate about it (maybe taking away the lesson to not get too attached to lovers in the present time?)

Card #6 - What are the Karmic Partner's past burdens, hopes or fears?

9 of swords

totally mentally stressed out, anguish, nightmares.

It seems like you both suffered a lot, possible because the relationship ended too quickly?

Card #7 - What does the Karmic Partner mean to the Querent at this time?

King of Pentacles

Husbandmaterial. Someone you can rely on and who seems to be always there for you. Very sensual mature and committed connection. Different than the last time around, which takes some adjusting I guess (my subjective pereception of course).

Card #8 -What does the Querent mean to the Karmic Partner?

Knight of Pentacles

I think he perceives you pretty much the same. Wife-material, someone with whom he can build a solid future, a sensual grounded connection. Maybe he views you as someone who can still learn a thing or two in the commitment department, but the seed is there.

Card #9 - What can the Querent do for this re-meet/relationship now?

4 of pentacles

Stick to it. Through thick and thin. Even if sometimes routine comes, stay with it and appreciate its value.

Card #10 -What can the Karmic Partner do for this re-meet/relationship now?

Sun

Let go of control a little bit, being spontaneous, enjoying it, be more like a child, allowing the heat and warmth and passion be expressed.

Card #11 - What is the FINAL OUTCOME (the axis) of this reading

if you fail to address the issues properly:
7 of wands

a lot of fighting, defensiveness, feeling like you are surrounded by hostility and have to always defend your stance.

if you succeed in solving your issues:
Devil (does not look positive, but i feel it is, it is my parent`s relationship card, I once asked for one card to describe their relationship, this came up, but my parents marriage is devoid of absue or something nasty like that).

sticking together like glue; a deep primal carnal passion. being inseparable.

posted July 25, 2015 11:23 AM            

the Devil describes our relationship exactly, so does our Moon-Pluto conjunction ( the passion) and Saturn-Venus conjunction ( chained by choice).

Here is your tarot spread:

Card #1 - What is the overall karmic meaning of this relationship, why have you met again, and what are you the two of you supposed to be working out?

KING OF CUPS

Inspiration. Enthusiasm. Motivation. Injecting inspiration into one's life again. Seems like this liaison motivates both of you to do better and perfect yourself.

Card #2 - What is the Querent's karmic inheritance, i.e., what do you bring to this re-meet?

THE MAGICIAN

Focused energy. Transformation thru willpower and determination. You bring back the magic and mystery. I bet he wonders who is this woman..

Card #3 - What is the Karmic Partner's inheritance, i.e., what does he/she bring to this re-meet?

ACE OF SWORDS

sexual virility. A sense of power. The power of words. Concentrated energy that mesmerizes you.

Card #4 - What is the past of this karmic relationship (the past life)?

2 OF SWORDS

Stalemate. Feeling deadlocked. Inaction. Suppression of feelings. Unable to make a move. Just as with the crossroads card in this position from the Leno spread - another card here to suggest two options were presented and you didnt know if you should follow your heart or your head.

Card #5 - What are the Querent's past burdens, hopes or fears?

PAGE OF WANDS

You were afraid to take actions and to jump too quickly into unfamiliar situation. You were way too cautious. The Ring from the leno spread tells me that you were afraid to break a previous commitment and were regretful you didnt take any actions

Card #6 - What are the Karmic Partner's past burdens, hopes or fears?

JUDGEMENT

Fear of being judged. Fear of doing something that was not right or against the law. He was quite the righteous person.

Card #7 - What does the Karmic Partner mean to the Querent at this time?

QUEEN OF CUPS

He feels you up with feelings of content and love

Card #8 -What does the Querent mean to the Karmic Partner?

6 OF CUPS

He has tender feelings for you and proly you remind him of something from the past, but he cant put his finger in it. Nostalgia

Card #9 - What can the Querent do for this re-meet/relationship now?

8 OF PENTACLES

Dedication. Preparation for the future. Study him. Your time and effort will pay off.

Card #10 -What can the Karmic Partner do for this re-meet/relationship now?

KING OF SWORDS
Law and order comes to mind. He can do it only if he can break the mold and free himself from restrictions

Card #11 - What is the FINAL OUTCOME (the axis) of this reading

2 OF PENTACLES

posted July 25, 2015 11:43 AM            

After reading your spread for him and me I wonder if this spread really relates to a past life or about the past leading up to the situation as it is now. or if not,t hen we probably repeated all the same mistakes from previous incarnations. lol
It reads at least as our present history.

"Seems like this liaison motivates both of you to do better and perfect yourself."
Yes I think so. It motivated me to change my life.
And he seems to be extra-energetic about his performance when I am around. At least his colleagues repeatedly commented on that and wondered what made him being so extraordinarily hyper and energetic.
Of course maybe it had nothing to do with me, and i don`t know what they say when I am not there. lol

"I bet he wonders who is this woman.."
Yes, can imagine that.
I have not been the most open and proactive I think.

"2 OF SWORDS

Stalemate. Feeling deadlocked. Inaction. Suppression of feelings. Unable to make a move. Just as with the crossroads card in this position from the Leno spread - another card here to suggest two options were presented and you didnt know if you should follow your heart or your head."
You know that is what I meant. Isn`t it what transpired between us in the past years?
This push-pull resulting in inaction and stalemate?

"PAGE OF WANDS

You were afraid to take actions and to jump too quickly into unfamiliar situation. You were way too cautious."
That is me, still. Or was me up to maybe a year ago.

"e leno spread tells me that you were afraid to break a previous commitment and were regretful you didnt take any actions"
Yes, when I met him, my heart and mind was preoccupied with someone else, at least emotionally.

"JUDGEMENT

Fear of being judged. Fear of doing something that was not right or against the law."
I think he has a great fear of being judged. with his Moon-saturn-square he must fearing being deprived of appreciation quite much (also because it affects his 5th, 11th, 10th and 7th house).

"6 OF CUPS

He has tender feelings for you and proly you remind him of something from the past, but he cant put his finger in it. Nostalgia"
This was the very first card I ever got on him and me from a tarot reader.

And yes, it also describes exactly what I feel. It`s like we have met before (in this life I mean, maybe during childhood or youth) but I just can`t put my finger on it, and it is driving me bonkers.
If it happened though, it must have been in his hometown during one of our visits of my grandmother there, or even later on the wedding i visited there, when a nice young man gave me a lift to the station, and I brushed him off so rudely (as my mom pointed out, who had noticed that, and was just pretty frustrated with her daughter. lol).

The thing is that wedding took place in an emotionally traumatic phase for me, and I can`t quite remember.

Or maybe even later, cause funny enough, I went to university with his best friend, at the same time (at least for the last 2 years) and studying the same subject. I do`t remember having crossed paths with him though, but who knows? Maybe I got a glimpse of him and Mr Sag back then in passing, and maybe that is what my subconsciousness vaguely recalls?

"2 OF PENTACLES

Choices, choices. "
It always comes down to that. I certainly can see that. yes.

posted July 25, 2015 11:55 AM            

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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
Oh I LOVE That interaction between the two of you. I could read to you talk about it all day long.

the tease, the playfulness but all with depth, feeling, passion, and a slightly rough edge as well. primal. love it.

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ours is stuff that movies are made of

I'll share another episode later

posted July 25, 2015 12:34 PM            

yes, I thought that too.
reversed roles.

Though as to inactive, one of my biggest mistakes this time around has been my inaction. I get that now.