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Enneline
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posted August 02, 2015 01:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Enneline     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
For Orange

Card #1 - What is the overall karmic meaning of this relationship, why have you met again, and what are you the two of you supposed to be working out?
-> for why you have met again: 6 of pentacles. Forgiving. Paying debts back.
for what the 2 of you are working out: ace of pentacles. Stability. No break-up makeup.


Card #2 - What is the Querent's karmic inheritance, i.e., what do you bring to this re-meet?
-> Queen of petancles. Your level-headed, grounded approach. Being a girlfriend.


Card #3 - What is the Karmic Partner's inheritance, i.e., what does he/she bring to this re-meet?
-> 6 of pentacles. Forgiving. Generosity. i was not sure if he wants to forgive or if he wants forgiveness and so i pulled another card: page of cups. He wants/shall forgive.


Card #4 - What is the past of this karmic relationship (the past life)?
-> the hermit. Oh, this sounds as one of you was left outside alone
I asked who was left outside alone: queen of wands.


Card #5 - What are the Querent's past burdens, hopes or fears?
-> 8 of pentacles. You think it is hard, very hard work to solve the karma


Card #6 - What are the Karmic Partner's past burdens, hopes or fears?
-> 3 of swords. Heartbreak.


Card #7 - What does the Karmic Partner mean to the Querent at this time?
-> i had to pull 2 cards: 9 of wands + 9 of pentacles: he is anything but nice watching her, the self-sufficient (in a positive way self-sufficient) lady


Card #8 -What does the Querent mean to the Karmic Partner?
-> 8 of swords. He feels bad, like not being able to do anything, like being blinde and fainting at the same time.


Card #9 - What can the Querent do for this re-meet/relationship now?
-> 7 of wands. Fight for it. Setting lines.


Card #10 -What can the Karmic Partner do for this re-meet/relationship now?
-> 8 of pentacles. Working on it. That is what he can do.


Card #11 - What is the FINAL OUTCOME (the axis) of this reading
-> 10 of wands. Heavy karmic burden. Clarifier: 2 of cups. To be happy together again.

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posted August 02, 2015 02:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Orange     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
ok, Enne with R.

I didnt see much here, it doesnt strike me as an important connection. It looks like a past life hurt and abandonment that will repeat again in this life.


Card #1 - What is the overall karmic meaning of this relationship, why have you met again, and what are you the two of you supposed to be working out?

2 of Pents - 6 of swords

in a past life, one of you had to choose between two options or two paths or two partners and they chose someone or something else. You may have met again to play the reversal roles now, as a karmic payoff

Card #2 - What is the Querent's karmic inheritance, i.e., what do you bring to this re-meet?

Strength - 3 of Cups

Strength and optimism. I guess you were the one who had different options available in a past life

Card #3 - What is the Karmic Partner's inheritance, i.e., what does he/she bring to this re-meet?

The Tower - 7 of Wands

His world crumbled in a past life, everything was ruined to the ground, so now he is standing high on alert, guarded and ready to defend himself, difficult to have a grasp on

Card #4 - What is the past of this karmic relationship (the past life)?

3 of swords - Star

a Heartbreak. High hopes and aspirations. The hopes were dashed.

Card #5 - What are the Querent's past burdens, hopes or fears?

6 of wands - Page of swords

You were quite the rascal in that past life - full of vigor, courage, mental stimulation, travel, difficult to follow thru as you were easily distracted by having too many options. You might need to learn how to survive in this life and be the strong character you need to withstand the storms. You dont like that one bit, since you were used to have everything easy.

Card #6 - What are the Karmic Partner's past burdens, hopes or fears?

Justice - Queen of Wands

He was wronged in a past life, maybe victimized by a woman, a woman in a position of power

Card #7 - What does the Karmic Partner mean to the Querent at this time?

King of Cups - 2 of swords

The King of cups is an older gentleman. A kind, wise person, a teacher. You like him, but he may appear aloof or out of reach, or not very pro-active, or just makes you feel tense, because you are not quite sure what he is thinking

Card #8 -What does the Querent mean to the Karmic Partner?

Wheel of Fortune - King of Wands

You are the wild card to him, difficult to read or predict, yet - fascinating. He may fear you might leave him for another , younger or more beautiful lad.

Card #9 - What can the Querent do for this re-meet/relationship now?

Death - The Chariot

I would have interpreted this as - no re-meet/re-connect in a love way- in this lifetime, unless you two have already did that? If yes, then the cards suggest you need to let go and let god - go withe flow and dont hesitate.

Card #10 -What can the Karmic Partner do for this re-meet/relationship now?

King of Pentacles - Queen of Pentacles

The Queen and the King of Pentacles. Do you work together or are in the same line of work?

Card #11 - What is the FINAL OUTCOME (the axis) of this reading

Ace of Wands - The Hanged man - 9 of swords

Seems like you will hit it off, like the stars collude, sexual attraction. Then there will be an awkward silence and a period of slowed action, when both will be re-evaluating the occurrence, then ...a lesson will be learnt.

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LeeLoo2014
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posted August 02, 2015 02:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LeeLoo2014     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Enneline and KS

Card #1 - What is the overall karmic meaning of this relationship, why have you met again, and what are you the two of you supposed to be working out?
6 of swords
You were outcasts of sorts in your previous incarnations together. You had to flee together. This time, the card indicates a possible return.
Card #2 - What is the Querent's karmic inheritance, i.e., what do you bring to this re-meet?
10 of swords
This card indicates karma release. So whatever your past with KS was, this time you are moving into a new phase.
Card #3 - What is the Karmic Partner's inheritance, i.e., what does he/she bring to this re-meet?
9 of swords
Fear, depression, overthinking. Maybe in the past you caused heartbreak to this person and now you are teaching them or showing them your loving side.
Card #4 - What is the past of this karmic relationship (the past life)?
7 of wands
Fighting. Possibly together. Considering the 6 of swords. So most likely you two fought for a cause together, side by side. Standing by your beliefs.
Card #5 - What are the Querent's past burdens, hopes or fears?
Emperor
The desire to have control on one’s life, to have power and mastery over oneself and thus on others. Self-confidence and personal power. This task continues in this lifetime, considering this is your next Life Stage, after the Devil.
Card #6 - What are the Karmic Partner's past burdens, hopes or fears?
Page of Swords
Learning to assert oneself through words and knowledge. Desire to be free. Communication and expression need a new path.
Card #7 - What does the Karmic Partner mean to the Querent at this time?
7 of cups
Fantasy and/or illusion. A dream.
Card #8 -What does the Querent mean to the Karmic Partner?
World
Either everything, if this is the case, or opening oneself to the world, to new possibilities.
Card #9 - What can the Querent do for this re-meet/relationship now?
8 of wands
Act quickly. Show passion. Be direct. Communicate. Accept no compromises.
Card #10 -What can the Karmic Partner do for this re-meet/relationship now?
2 of pentacles
Be more flexible, practical and fluid. Tackle all the dimensions of the relationship. Create a connection, a bond.
Card #11 - What is the FINAL OUTCOME (the axis) of this reading
9 of wands
Well I guess one thing is for sure a good long-term friendship can take place as a start. Time and patience is needed. Clarifier: page of pentacles. A new beginning,. Sensuality, maybe something casual too, at the beginning. A relationship with a teenage like vibe: lots of learning, friendship, doing practical things together. Both are interested to make it tangible.

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Enneline
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posted August 02, 2015 02:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Enneline     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
For LeeLoo

Card #1 - What is the overall karmic meaning of this relationship, why have you met again, and what are you the two of you supposed to be working out?
-> why have you met again: magician. Hmmm....i had to think about those magic rituals that chain 2 souls together. Maybe the 2 of you were sorcerers in your past lives.
what are you supposed to be working out: 4 of swords (it was rev ). Healing. This is what comes to my mind.


Card #2 - What is the Querent's karmic inheritance, i.e., what do you bring to this re-meet?
->knight of swords (clarifier: star) the energy, the rhetoric and the willpower to solve it. The star shows that you are equipped sufficiently to do so and/or you really dream to do so


Card #3 - What is the Karmic Partner's inheritance, i.e., what does he/she bring to this re-meet?
-> king of wands. (clarifier: 10 of cups). his adventurous, energetic, wise and open side. The 10 of cups somehow indicates that he remembers the happy family life the 2 of you had in a past life


Card #4 - What is the past of this karmic relationship (the past life)?
-> 3 of pentacles. Mentor and teacher. Together you created something.


Card #5 - What are the Querent's past burdens, hopes or fears?
-> Queen of cups (clarifier: queen of swords). I don't see much negative stuff here. The hope might be to love and be loved again. The fear? Is there any fear? Maybe to love too much?


Card #6 - What are the Karmic Partner's past burdens, hopes or fears?
-> magician (clarifier: knight of wands). Again, i don't see anything negative... Ah...he wants that magic connection back and he wants to conquer you again.


Card #7 - What does the Karmic Partner mean to the Querent at this time?
-> knight of swords (clarifier: empress). She wants her shiny amor in the outfit of a knight back. He shall conquer her. Also, she wants to be with him- maybe even be him the father of her children


Card #8 -What does the Querent mean to the Karmic Partner?
-> 10 of cups. okay, this is self-explanatory. no clarifier needed she is the happiness of his life for him


Card #9 - What can the Querent do for this re-meet/relationship now?
-> 6 of pentacles. Forgive him. Be generous.


Card #10 -What can the Karmic Partner do for this re-meet/relationship now?
-> Queen of pentacles. Take the querent as his girlfriend and/or being more sensible and grounded


Card #11 - What is the FINAL OUTCOME (the axis) of this reading -> king of pents, 5 of wands, ace of wands
the karmic partner should get his problems under control and/or the quarrels with him shall be solved to lead the relationship to a real real stability


This spread is surprisingly good. I really don't see anything bad in there
On the contrary: I see a loving karmic relationship. It has always been a romantic love and will always be

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posted August 02, 2015 02:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LeeLoo2014     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thank you, Enneline
I hope you don't mind I pulled mostly one cards, every time I saw something very clear and only the last one needed a clarifier for me.

But if any point is unclear to you, I can draw clarifiers on it, just let me know. The picture in my mind was quite clear

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posted August 02, 2015 02:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Enneline     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thank you both Oragen & LeeLoo. Your spreads are very fitting

No, LeeLoo. As long as you see a pic, there is no need to pull a clarifier

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posted August 02, 2015 02:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Enneline     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:

But if any point is unclear to you, I can draw clarifiers on it, just let me know. The picture in my mind was quite clear

Just point 8. I am curious: am i the world or new point of views for him?

Yes, he's just a illusion for me

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posted August 02, 2015 02:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LeeLoo2014     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
hahaha I was thinking about this too..that it has two options.

ok, I asked what the world means here and got 9 of swords again. I think KS is carrying some emotional burden and insecurity, possibly some past heartaches, and you are someone who opens him to new possibilities, you bring a breath of fresh air to him, you are new potential, adventure, a new world so to speak. I asked directly if you are everything to him now, if you mean the world to him, but got 3 of swords, so I think indeed he has some background pain in there; for now, you are this new fresh world, you cheer him up, bring him out there but it doesn't mean you won't become the world to him. It is also possible with the naked lady that he is very attracted to you physically. Because he seems to be in some sort of psychological pain, just watch out not to be used as "medicine" for that. but the energy between you two seems quite innocent and open, honest.

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posted August 02, 2015 02:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Enneline     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:
hahaha I was thinking about this too..that it has two options.

ok, I asked what the world means here and got 9 of swords again. I think KS is carrying some emotional burden and insecurity, possibly some past heartaches, and you are someone who opens him to new possibilities, you bring a breath of fresh air to him, you are new potential, adventure, a new world so to speak. I asked directly if you are everything to him now, if you mean the world to him, but got 3 of swords, so I think indeed he has some background pain in there; for now, you are this new fresh world, you cheer him up, bring him out there but it doesn't mean you won't become the world to him. It is also possible with the naked lady that he is very attracted to you physically. Because he seems to be in some sort of psychological pain, just watch out not to be used as "medicine" for that. but the energy between you two seems quite innocent and open, honest.


You have no idea how accurate you are

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posted August 02, 2015 02:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LeeLoo2014     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

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posted August 04, 2015 01:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SereneDaze     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'm wondering if anyone wants to exchange? I cant do this spread but I can offer a tea leaf reading in return

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posted August 04, 2015 02:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Serene,

never had a tea leaf reading before.


I will do Leno for you.


ard #1 - What is the overall karmic meaning of this relationship, why have you met again, and what are you the two of you supposed to be working out?
STARS

tthere is a spiritual connection at the base of it, and what you have to work out is to make the relationship reach that high potential.

Card #2 - What is the Querent's karmic inheritance, i.e., what do you bring to this re-meet?
COFFIN

ups, you died on him? or you were the one that terminated the relationship?
Alternatively it can mean that you bring the ability to undergo important transformations to this meeting, though be careful with geting too depressed aobut things.

Card #3 - What is the Karmic Partner's inheritance, i.e., what does he/she bring to this re-meet?
MOUNTAIN

he felt blocked and hindered (if you died prematurely I am not surprised). Also if you terminated the relationship, he either might have felt this as a blockage, or felt blocked by the relationship itself.
and possibly now brings a bit of stubbornness or withdrawel to the meeting, maybe he has some fears.


Card #4 - What is the past of this karmic relationship (the past life)?
GARDEN

seems to have been a rather public relationship, or taking place in public.
But possibly not very committed. or non-exclusive.

Card #5 - What are the Querent's past burdens, hopes or fears?
KEY
you hoped that it would be a significant relationship that would change your life.


Card #6 - What are the Karmic Partner's past burdens, hopes or fears?
BOOK

he on the other hand hoped (or feared) that the relationship could only happen in secret.

Key and book are very opposite.
key wnats openness, book secretiveness.


Card #7 - What does the Karmic Partner mean to the Querent at this time?
FISH
he is a soulmate and there are deep soulbonds bewteen you. it does not have to be romantci though.
could be of course.

Card #8 -What does the Querent mean to the Karmic Partner?
MOON
he feels a lot of emotional affection for you, romantic, there might even be love-feelings. quite different from before.

Card #9 - What can the Querent do for this re-meet/relationship now?
RIDER
act fast. Talk, communicate openly. Send him a message. Call him, talk to him. Do not go silent.

Card #10 -What can the Karmic Partner do for this re-meet/relationship now?
BOUQUET
be nice, invite you, shower you with gifts and compliments, but most of all confess that he really likes you and harbours all these affectionat efeelings.

Card #11 - What is the FINAL OUTCOME (the axis) of this reading
ROADS

It is an open road actually. You both have to decide and communicate that you want to travel this road together.

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posted August 04, 2015 02:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SereneDaze     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ceri, you have no idea how much your reading resonates

Do you have a question in mind? The more specific the better.

Edit: Its late here, so I will do your reading tomorrow. Let me know your question!

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posted August 05, 2015 05:38 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
i am glad it resonated, esp. since I did not know anything about the backstory.

for my question, maybe you can simply do one on the social events coming up in august? (I know I have asked all over, but I never get tired of these readings )

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posted August 07, 2015 12:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SereneDaze     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi Ceridwen, here's your reading Hope you don't mind that I took so long, I have been busy and needed to have a clear mind and free time to do it.

Ok I asked what you can expect socially this month. I'm seeing a boar at the rim of the cup. Is there something you wanted to do? You're in luck because you'll have the luck to be able to do or experience it. The next symbol looks like a stalk of lavender or wheat. This makes me think you're going someplace near nature but it also means a brief but nice occasion. I'm also seeing a rhinoceros, which is a first for me. It signifies a very masculine male figure, but also means that you're rushing into something head first without thinking. Maybe take a step back and think if you've been growing too infatuated for a man in your life.

Next there's a bigger symbol that resembles someone diving underwater while being surrounded by sea creatures. Are you dreamy in nature and like to indulge in artistic pursuits? You have opportunities to have a nice and relaxing time doing what you like. You'll get to interact with more people too this month, maybe you dont really take the time to do so since the sea creatures are just swimming around you. Its a reminder to interact and communicate with others more as this will enhance your experience.

There's also two figures that seems to be in the heat of the moment because their body language implies that. Looks like they are arguing but it could also be dancing that I'm seeing lol. At the base of the cup I'm not seeing a particular symbol, but looking at it I feel like there's a lot of movement. A bit of not being able to do all the things you want this month and somehow a bit tiring but not lacking in enthusiasm.

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posted August 23, 2015 02:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi SereneDaze,

thank you for the reading.
I feel it was spot on!

"You're in luck because you'll have the luck to be able to do or experience it. "
Yes, my parents could actually drive me there and pick me up, as it was on their way. Very comfortable (I do not have a car myself)

"§Are you dreamy in nature and like to indulge in artistic pursuits?"
I usually am dreamy, but wasn`t yesterday.
However the meeting taking place was linked to artistic things yes.


"u'll get to interact with more people too this month,"
Yes that is true.


"ooks like they are arguing but it could also be dancing that I'm seeing lol"§
LOL it was a bit of both, in a mental sense. He was mocking and teasing me a little, which turned into a bit of a ping-pong-play, as I would accept the challenges he was throwing at me.


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