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Ceridwen
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posted July 29, 2015 12:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thank you, Leeloo.

"hm it seems there is a change of skin..."
Funny enough that relates to a dream Ive had last night. Might have been triggered by the WW meeting yesterday, when the coach was talking about the skin-problem, when you lose really much weight and how different it is for every woman.
I must say I am pretty thankful, as despite having lost 60 kilos in the last 2,5 years, my skin i. (s not that much of a mine field as it should be considering the amount of weighloss.
Of course let`s not talk about my thighs, but even then, it`s a little surprising and I can thank my lucky stars so far. In fact people are kinda amazed when they hear it, cause you can`t even see it at the skin under my chin or in the face in general. It`s all like it is supposed to be (with an occasional wrinkle here and ther, which comes from the age mroe than losing weight).

However last night`s dream? I was dreaming of having so much unnecessary skin I hardly could walk, I was always tripping over it, and I think in the end I simply stepped out of it.

shedding skin like a snake, right? lol


"a seductive, playful woman? hehe"
It`s easy online. Not so much in person. I still fight the urge to become invisible or withdraw. lol
Though it depends really, I sometimes feel like two very different people around him.


"o me, clover comes up often as second chance."
Well, as he once wrote in his song :"I never realized that you were never gonna be my friend. Somebody help me understand."

Well maybe this IS indeed a second chance at whatever "friendship" is possible between us. Or aquaitanceship or connection of whatever kind.


"also, maybe another man, from work, why not??"
I was dreaming of the bands`s drummer last night. lol


"you may not like the tower"
I am warming up to the tower. It is not that i never like it, I find it a little difficult to interprete sometimes, but it depends hwer eit is in the spread.

"to see you again, at least at his events; to continue the friendship, but there is something naughty about it, or hidden"
Makes a lot of sense.

I mean I am an addict after all.

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posted July 29, 2015 01:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LeeLoo2014     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thank you, Ceri

"Leeloo,

btw why does he think you are with another man?

I have other suitors, and he knows about it also, I ended a long friendship with someone else when we got together, me and R. recently, during the past years, I am taking some time before becoming intimate with someone, at least 4-6 months of friendship/dating, and there was someone like this, when me and R got together. I appreciated that man very much, as a friend and human being, but failed to fall in love with him. When R and I got together and felt what I felt, I realized it's time not to keep my friend suspended anymore, he wanted something very serious, so I set him free. (it's not my style, anymore hehehe to date more than one man at a time) Now R thinks I am back with this friend, but it never happened; he got hurt he ended our friendship as well. And I wouldn't have, obviously. R doesn't need reasons to believe something like that anyway. I love R, that is the truth.


MY LITTLE VENTING MOMENT. SORRY.

1. The Foundation
COFFIN + DOG

oh a fated soulmateconnection. However also one that might undergo several transformations and kathartic crisis, but I think the friendship and relationship is strong.

I think this also relates to the fact that we got together when my daddy died.

2. The Recent Past
BOOK + SHIP
a secret or something unknown leading into a development, into moving.
Possibly things will get moving between you two again, following an event having to do with books, or booking, a play or a lecture even.


3. Current State of Relationship
GARDEN + STARS
I thought you were not talking?
Hmm, this looks wrong then, cause it looks actually pretty positive, though with the garden for now in a more social frame. Social media? Are you in contact?

this is interesting. he is looking for contact, but I am still avoiding it. I will let you m now how this pans out.


4. Obstacles they Both Face
HOUSE + MAN
He wants more commitment than you can give for now? It looks like settling down at one place is part of the problem here. Is that long distance?

not exactly long distance, he is in a nearby town. perhaps another man here. well, if he doesn't hurry of what he has to do, this will happen

5. Views of Partner One ( how they perceive the relationship)
LILY + RING
Ah sweet. A lasting official committed relationship, based on sexual attraction, feeling of belonging together and also possibly a soulmate feeling.
Very sensual.


6. Views of Partner Two
SNAKE + MAN
He finds you sexually enticing and intriguing, also spiritually and intellectually.
However what I ALSO think is this might be indicative of him thinking you are with another man. Isn`t the snake your court card?

I think both, yes

7. Expectations of Partner One (current)
TREE + CROSS

a fated long lasting slowly growing relationship. Very karmic and connected. However involving quite a bit of growth-pain as well.


8. Expectations of Partner Two
FISH + LILY
A deep rich profound emotional and sexual soulconnection. A lot of sex possibly. lol


9. Best Outcome
CROSS + SHIP + STARS

(btw when I closed my eyes and focused, I saw the image of a wolf or cojote howling, to the moon? Does that image mean something to you? WEird. )

Anyway there is a fated quality for this to move on and develop into a very blissful relationship, a trip to the stars. lol however you do have to cross the cross so to speak to get there, it probably demands a clear choice in favour of this relationship. and a lot of faith in it.

very nice, thank you

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posted July 29, 2015 01:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LeeLoo2014     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Orange, thanks babe

"LeeLoo:

You
1. Feelings
Crossroads

Indecisive. It does show quite a lot in your readings. Torn between different options.

I am not indecisive, more like at a crossroads

2. Projection
Cross

You communicated burden and grief and basically didnt show enough appreciation. He was left with the impression he was a burden to you.

I think I was ruthless here. I was, I launched a death sentence. the only way I thought I could help, in the situation

3.Conflict
Stork + woman

You didnt want to settle. You had to give up something and change your ways, and you didn't want to, or presently do not want to change. It was in conflict with your principles.

maybe the required change?

4. Resolution
Scythe + House

The only way for this to work is for you to leave your home and relocate to wherever he is.

most likely.
Him
5. Feelings
Mountain + Letter
Some disturbing news he got about you. He wants to write to you and reconnect with you, but something is blocking him from doing so. Poor fella.

6. Projection
Moon + Key
He left an impresion on you that this romance was an important for him, most important, actually.

7. Conflict
Bear + Bouquet
I can see him the Bear holding a bouquet for you and he can't give it to you, just stands there frozen. Why? It seems he thinks you are happy with your life right now and doesnt want to interfere.

very fitting. I am not sure about the conflict though. it doesn't seem to be one, in his eyes. except for possessiveness? he looks optimistic and shows strength here hm

8. Resolution
Ring
Well, putting a ring on you is the only solution for him. To claim his prize - aka, pee in a circle around you and mark his territory

love the peeing part hahahahahaha

Relationship
8. What works
Rider
Adopt more flexibility, discover new things, open your mind. Travel. Overcome a distance.

9. What doesnt work
Child + Garden

Being childish, party goer, spread too thin, too social.

10. Potential
Anchor + Dog + Birds

Oh well... A great potential here... Depth, soulmateship, two birds chirping together forever. "

lovely! thanks again!

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posted July 29, 2015 01:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Orange     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks for the spread, LeeLoo. Looks fitting as always.

we shall see about the outcome...Y'all be invited if something happens. For real!!!

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posted July 29, 2015 02:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LeeLoo2014     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Orange,

You
1. Feelings
Dog + Anchor
very stable feelings of friendship, love and commitment


2. Projection
key + snake
you project this image of being a self-assured, confident, seductive woman, not necessarily inspiring trust, but fascination


3.Conflict
whip + house
sex, jealousy, another man (king of hearts), other men, that's where the conflict comes from


4. Resolution

roads + coffin

hm this route is not good, going in circle, you need a new path. something has to end.


Him
5. Feelings

fox + bouquet

all the feelings are there, and potential for happiness, he may be guarding them though, not entirely honest about them or simply being guarded, afraid of being duped


6. Projection

birds + key

nervousness, excitement, instability, looking for a solution, a stable pairing partner


7. Conflict

cross heart

love pain, and of course: cross my heart, trust, faith, a decision in love matters, commitment

8. Resolution
mountain moon
hm he is a bit lonely or feels the solution is out of reach. is he the kind to discourage easily? at least emotionally? perhaps the need for distancing oneself is suggested here

Relationship
8. What works

tree
firms commitment, growing, accepting change

9. What doesnt work
cross

no more pain, no more drama...this won't work in the long run, not anymore

10. Potential

child road mountain scythe

a new path clears the obstacles or clearing the obvious obstacles suggested by the spreads leads to a new path

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posted July 29, 2015 02:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for DaniPepper87     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi LeeLoo2014! Sorry for the long delay, today I had to take my father to the doctor, and I just finish the lunch now!!

9. Best Outcome - Page of Swords - Page of Pentacles
The ideas that want to come true. Let the conversations and hopes come to you in an easy way and then you'll be able to bring them to the real life. You can bring a lot of good things from the mental world to help each other and other people in the material one. You need to do something first, right? Talk and think!!!

I didn't understand the outcome here...a clarifier maybe? this part is about the BEST outcome of the relationship.

For this one I got 4 of pentacles as clarifier...

The best outcome involves you both to talk about things... The come together seems to happen when you really talk and trust. the 4 of pentacles can come as the reunion of you... holding tight the one you really love!!!

What do you think???

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posted July 29, 2015 02:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for DaniPepper87     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Dani, it's not like we're bathing in romance here

I agree!!

OK, I have this for you, I hope you enjoy it

where is mr lily now?

ring roads stork

he is close to you, in your home country, perhaps near a road you pass by some time he is living with his mother and his sister. he is probably returning from a vacation, somewhere in the country

what are his current interests/ focus?

garden book tree
he reads a lot. he goes to the library or buys books (no one goes to the library anymore lol) maybe he even reads about trees or plants. I think he has a garden and he loves to read in the garden. maybe he is learning how to tend for it, from his books.

what is the next stage in his life?

moon sun scythe stars book woman

at the end of the month, on 31, when the Blue Moon is up, he will have an unusual dream about a mysterious woman: you.

what are the most important things in life for him, currently?

book clover stork house woman

after the dream, it will be to find this mysterious woman(you), have the luck to meet her by chance and make her his wife, in a little new home only by themselves

what is his most important dream?

lily (hehe) letter key

to find you and also to become a good writer, poet or lawyer.

REally nice spread!! Interesting that Lily always come to me about Mr. Lily!! Hahahaha!! One nice thing you saw in this one, is that I'll have a sister-in-law!! Interesting that all the boys I once wanted has sisters.... that's my destiny!! Hahah!!!

Thanks soo much, I loved this one!

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posted July 29, 2015 02:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LeeLoo2014     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by DaniPepper87:
Hi LeeLoo2014! Sorry for the long delay, today I had to take my father to the doctor, and I just finish the lunch now!!

9. Best Outcome - [b]Page of Swords - Page of Pentacles
The ideas that want to come true. Let the conversations and hopes come to you in an easy way and then you'll be able to bring them to the real life. You can bring a lot of good things from the mental world to help each other and other people in the material one. You need to do something first, right? Talk and think!!!

I didn't understand the outcome here...a clarifier maybe? this part is about the BEST outcome of the relationship.

For this one I got 4 of pentacles as clarifier...

The best outcome involves you both to talk about things... The come together seems to happen when you really talk and trust. the 4 of pentacles can come as the reunion of you... holding tight the one you really love!!!

What do you think???

[/B]


Hi, Dani Thank you dear!

not a bad card, it shows tangible results are possible, things becoming real, the tangible effect of previous attempts, conversations, and trusting each other and creating a structure, as a good manifestation for it; the pages can build something together, if they cooperate

I hope you saw my little surprise for you last night?

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posted July 29, 2015 02:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LeeLoo2014     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
ahh Ok I'm glad you saw it

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posted July 29, 2015 02:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Leeloo,

thank you for elaborating. Now I understand a little better. Seems R is really insecure, isnīt he?

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posted July 29, 2015 02:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Orange     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Interesting, LeoLoo..hhmmm
I like how you interpreted the potential - the Scythe cuts the mountain and a new ( child) path opens up

yes, he thinks I lie to him, very distrusting this Aries

and yes, he is quite guarded, doesn't speak much about his feelings but shows them

I'll do your Tarot spread once I get home, honey

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posted July 29, 2015 02:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for DaniPepper87     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yes, yes!!!

One thing I love this forum is about learning. We can wrong here, and with love we exchange the knowledge about cards...

And your readings for me are very nice!! Ahhh... Mr. Lily will have a great audience for marry me!! Hahahahah!!! Even when I meet him, in LL he will always be Mr. Lily!!

quote:
Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:

I hope you saw my little surprise for you last night?

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posted July 29, 2015 02:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LeeLoo2014     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Ceridwen:
Leeloo,

thank you for elaborating. Now I understand a little better. Seems R is really insecure, isnīt he?


I'm afraid so I can't blame him, he has lived really really isolated. He has that cross (Saturn conj MC/SN exact crossing ASC/DSC exact AND Saturn sq Sun)...not easy to turn into confidence, but once it happens...
Thank you for your kind words!

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posted July 29, 2015 03:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Leeloo,

that cross reminds me almost of Mr Sag`s chart with his Sun-Moon-MC squared by Saturn-Vertex-DESC and of course DESC and IC are on the other ends respectively.

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posted July 29, 2015 03:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LeeLoo2014     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Ceridwen:
Leeloo,

that cross reminds me almost of Mr Sag`s chart with his Sun-Moon-MC squared by Saturn-Vertex-DESC and of course DESC and IC are on the other ends respectively.


oh, yes, you know we discussed we even did their composite

his DSC/Sun conj Vertex as well, it is an almost identical cross, these two have

it's heartbreaking to see Saturn sq Sun in action, in this respect; for example, when I pay him a genuine heartfelt compliment and I see in his eyes he is thinking: she says this because she can't see me clearly, when she will, she will leave me. that's a leitmotif in his thinking. he often told me: you're just saying this because you have a good heart, but he meant it, he was so serious about it, nothing playful about it. and he has so many outstanding qualities for me to praise, you can see by his chart he is an amazing person with a great heart and an unusual mind, a mind of the future.

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posted July 29, 2015 03:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yes, I remember now.

And I know what you mean, for all the playfulness that is certainly there in Mr Sag, he is also very driven, and I think partly it is because he needs to receive positive resonance again and again.
Iīve seen on some occasions that he is very selfcritical and selfconscious to the point of almost self-contempt (if he is not content with something, and with Sun-Saturn- you know that happens pretty much all the time).
It is probably not making things easier with my Sun-Mercury just stumbling into this, and activating this over and over again for him.

On the other hand I am not a stranger to these feelings myself, not in in terms of Sun, but with my Moon-Saturn-quinkunx.


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posted July 29, 2015 04:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for VacantGazer     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi Orange, I found these quite hard so please take pinch of salt

1. The Foundation
4H 5S
Met and fell in love while changes were happening in one's life?

Strong secure love.
Foundations built on love and freedom? Maybe a uranian vibe to the relationship ?

2. The Recent Past
10C 8C
Changes/ending of a cycle, perhaps going through a tough time and maybe some confusion. Was someone being a bit stubborn?

3. Current State of Relationship
4S QH
Stressed, probably some detachment. Perhaps you are feeling very emotional/sensitive at the moment?

4. Obstacles they Both Face
5D 5H
Changes(job/money changes or causing movement somewhere that means time apart?)
I think 5's usually show changes occuring - perhaps be more willing to embrace changes?

5. Views of Partner One ( how they perceive the relationship)
9C 7S
Maybe you feel things are completing and you feel you have lost?

6. Views of Partner Two
5C AC
Seems to be a little dissatisfied with the way things are, and wants to communicate, and wants to know more about you too. Have a new beginning. Maybe they want you to express your feelings/thoughts more?

7. Expectations of Partner One (current)
10S 3S
I think you are expecting things to end, or you're expecting negative news. Causing you some feelings of worry and indecision.

8. Expectations of Partner Two
QD 9H
Wants you to be decisive and give him what he desires/is wishing for (I guess with regards to love)

9. Best Outcome
9D JH
9D is money/investment. So I think it might be willing to invest yourself with a man who cares/loves you deeply.

Let me know what you think, if im off please let me know.

Pls dont quote my posts might edit later

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posted July 29, 2015 04:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for VacantGazer     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks Orange, it resonated well with me. Here is my feedback(i might edit out later at some point tho so please dont quote)

quote:
Originally posted by Orange:
VacantGazer:


We worked for the same company, but we only officially met at a party, that was at night. I'm usually very shy around people i dont know well, but me and him hit it off immediatley
1. The Foundation

Stars + Fish

You met in the night, under the stars, it brought you both joy and ignited deep surprising feelings. The exchange between you two was easy and fluid

He moved to another city, but he is also someone who keeps his emotions to himself so I dont really know where i stand with him
2. The Recent Past

Cross + Clouds

In the past there was a great deal of grief and suffering and a lot of uncertainty, as if one of you left without a notice or simply left without explaining why and where.

There is no commitment, we did date before, now he is just my friend, but it feels a bit more than than, and also with his behaviour
3. Current State of Relationship

Garden + Woman

Nothing special yet, it's still in the party phase where all is out in the open. No commitment yet. Woman is the driving force.

Feelings are there but i dont want my heart broken again, so im afraid to say anything. He is also someone who keeps his feelings to himself.
4. Obstacles they Both Face

Bouquet + Heart

great cards but in the Obstacles position - there will be something uneasy about talking about love. There will be obstacles in the matter of the heart.

Yes, potentially, I'm not thinking marriage right now but yes. Yes im very attracted to him
5. Views of Partner One ( how they perceive the relationship)

Ring + Whip

You think he is a husband material, with a lot of sexual charisma


He has told me he thinks im compassionate and caring, but also that im full of surprises
6. Views of Partner Two

Stork + Tower

he views you as a nice, pleasant, maternal woman, quite stable and a bit hard to figure out and even lonely at times.

I would like commitment, eventually living together, but not wanting living together right now. Yes I would like adventure
7. Expectations of Partner One (current)

House + Crossroads

Commitment, living under the same roof, having an adventure together on the roads

He wants to settle(I don't know if with me), but he has told me that he wants to settle.

8. Expectations of Partner Two

Tree + Rider

long term and a lot of adventures. He expects this relationship to provide lots of movement and a flow of fresh air into his life

For sure it needs to transform

9. Best Outcome

Coffin + Moon

Seems like this romance will be better to be left to rest, unless it goes thru major transformation.


Thanks alot!

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posted July 29, 2015 05:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for VacantGazer     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi Ceri,

Might need your help with number 9,

1. The Foundation
8H 5D
Met at an event/party where there was money spent

2. The Recent Past
2S 3H

Separation/division causing feelings of indecisiveness in love.

3. Current State of Relationship
AH JD
New beginnings in the relationship
or
desires for affection causing some confusion or anxiety?

4. Obstacles they Both Face
2H 2C
spending time together and communication about the relationship

5. Views of Partner One ( how they perceive the relationship)
KH 8D
Views the male as a KH character - emotional, loving. Beneficial relationship?
or KH is said to be a soulmate, maybe you view KH as a soulmate?

6. Views of Partner Two
QS 3S
Sees you as mysterious, maybe detached. But he is also apprehensive and anxious.

7. Expectations of Partner One (current)
QC 8C
Expect there to be more socialising(QC is a sociable outgoing person), but you are also at a crossroads, maybe even stubborn. When at a crossroads I think it means there is no particular expectation, as in you dont know what to expect.

8. Expectations of Partner Two
10S 7H
I think they expect an ending, causing them to have doubts.

9. Best Outcome
9D 7S

I think these together mean losing money :/
I pulled 3D too - I think with 7S it means avoiding arguments/confrontation. But there seems to be money/work here too.

Let me know what you think. If im completely off please tell me

Please dont quote my posts might edit later

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posted July 29, 2015 05:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thank you, VG,

well, now that is a really depressing spread.


"Separation/division causing feelings of indecisiveness in love."
Hmm, does separation indicate there were some form of togetherness before?
Unless it simply means me going home again. lol


"New beginnings in the relationship
or
desires for affection causing some confusion or anxiety?"
I suppose this could be right.
A crossroad of sorts.


" Views of Partner Two
QS 3S
Sees you as mysterious, maybe detached. But he is also apprehensive and anxious."
That fits the HIghpriestess from Leeloo`s spread.

"When at a crossroads I think it means there is no particular expectation, as in you dont know what to expect."
No I donīt have any real expectations.


". Expectations of Partner Two
10S 7H
I think they expect an ending, causing them to have doubts."
Hmm. end of what exactly?
It`s not like we had a relationship or something like that.
Though I suppose some of the non-clarity has ended, and I guess I am not the only one who has to find a way to deal with the new bit of information.


"I think with 7S it means avoiding arguments/confrontation. But there seems to be money/work here too."
Hm, no doesn`t really make sense to me.

I donīt know, somehow I donīt really "feel" that spread though, even though there are parts that might be right, it just doesn`t "vibe", you know what I mean?

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posted July 29, 2015 05:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for VacantGazer     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
No problem Ceri, i found it hard to interpret, especially the last part. I don't know, happy it doesnt resonate though, as it was a bit depressing as you say

10S can also be troubling news - maybe they are expecting to hear something negative?

My interpretation is quite a bit off but maybe the cards themselves may resonate?

pls dont quote might edit later

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posted July 29, 2015 05:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
So doing my compilation here


1. The Foundation
9 of cups 3 of cups 7 of wands

self assertion, but mostly joy, enjoyment, getting together, and of course, we mustn't ignore the show

but definitely the foundation is about self-awareness and standing up for oneself as well.


Anchor + Letter

It wall started with an written invitation.How did you get your first concert ticket? What's the story behind it?
The relationship is based on communication thru a persistent contact( anchor)

Man House Dog
man's best friend maybe this is previous life? a committed relationship,a stable one. or maybe this shows there is a strong foundation

8H 5D
Met at an event/party where there was money spent

2. The Recent Past

knight of swords 3 of pentacles 3 of cups

lots of 3s lol well this points to the journey, the knight, and a getting together, and theater, and perhaps an intense exchange, for all three cards point to that, including gazing, feeling and a strong rush.


Child + Whip

joy and sexiness, sudden rush of emotions, unexpected events

dog snake stork

hm it seems there is a change of skin...also, we can see two women here...so the trio experience keeps coming up. maybe snake here is already your facebook comment: a seductive, playful woman? hehe


2S 3H

Separation/division causing feelings of indecisiveness in love.

3. Current State of Relationship

knight of wands 4 of cups hanged man
after action, it seems there is a stalemate here, a pause for daydreaming and even missing the other. the knight however shows things are about to get moving again, and travel, either by mind or in person is indicated

Garden

It's a party, concerts, lots of people at one place, pleasant activities ( pretty fitting)

coffin cross clover

a new chance? a second chance? to me, clover comes up often as second chance. there is also a strong element of fate here, with 3 fated cards.


AH JD
New beginnings in the relationship
or
desires for affection causing some confusion or anxiety?

4. Obstacles they Both Face

5 of wands ace of cups ace of swords

obstacles will be removed, they deal with some sort of competition, a new beginning however is in the cards and there is a connection, both emotional and mental, new ideas, new feelings. perhaps the obstacle is the actual beginning.


Snake

a woman, another woman

clarifier - Birds
snake + birds -> from the net : "making up stories when the real truth is unknown, particularly nasty gossip, or malicious gossip"


anchor bear man

yeah, this is quite clear lol

also, maybe another man, from work, why not??


2H 2C
spending time together and communication about the relationship

5. Views of Partner One ( how they perceive the relationship)

page of swords strength temperance

mental stimulation, erotic stimulation, soul stimulation, artistic stimulation etc etc etc this is what the relationship is about for partner 1


Coffin + Cross

oy, oy such powerful cards here. It feels fated, it feels extremely transformative, it's everything!

tower heart stars

aww nice this looks like a big dream. you may not like the tower - personally I do, especially since my tower is a princess in a tower - but this looks like a high and big and nice dream of love

KH 8D
Views the male as a KH character - emotional, loving. Beneficial relationship?
or KH is said to be a soulmate, maybe you view KH as a soulmate?


6. Views of Partner Two

3 of wands king of pentacles high priestess

he comes up as this king one more time in my cards. he sees you as the HP, which means many things, as we know: the other, but also a fascinating alluring mysterious inaccessible "asset"

3 of wands is about venturing into the unknown so for him, you are this unknown

Scythe + House

like a treat to his home lol..for real? WOW, Ceri


bear fish lily

I think there is a strong vibe of feeling someone as part of one's family, triggering affection, emotions, and attraction as well, very protective vibe here

QS 3S
Sees you as mysterious, maybe detached. But he is also apprehensive and anxious.

7. Expectations of Partner One (current)

3 of swords 6 of wands world
well, everything...victory! haha and the removal of any complicated situation, including the involvement of other people


Sun + Bear

For this connection to shine always like the Sun, and for it to become stronger and bigger


stork mice scythe ring

the need for a change, for worries and insecurities to be removed; the need to know how one stands


QC 8C
Expect there to be more socialising(QC is a sociable outgoing person), but you are also at a crossroads, maybe even stubborn. When at a crossroads I think it means there is no particular expectation, as in you dont know what to expect.

8. Expectations of Partner Two

5 of swords 4 of swords death sun

sorry for these cards...I think they say he doesn't have any hope, or expectation at this point; he is peaceful in regards to whatever happens; but the sun may show a revival or the birth of new hope and a new road ahead


Dog + Fish

this could be viewed two ways:

for you to continue to be loyal to him and keep coming to his concert and be there every time, as he is looking forward to it.

or, a bit colder version: to continue be a friend ( dog) and a paying visitor, income( fish)

key fox dog garden

to see you again, at least at his events; to continue the friendship, but there is something naughty about it, or hidden

10S 7H
I think they expect an ending, causing them to have doubts.

9. Best Outcome

10 of cups ace of wands empress


Crossroads + Man + Heart

a man brings change to you by the means of love. New love.


birds moon letter

dreams, conversations by night, arts, a soul or psychic connection, keeping in touch.

9D 7S

I think these together mean losing money :/
I pulled 3D too - I think with 7S it means avoiding arguments/confrontation. But there seems to be money/work here too.

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VG,

I think part of the spread does probably resonate, not sure about all the talk about an ending though.
I mean he is married, and it`s not like we had a relationship or even a friendship, that could end.
All that recently happened was that it became evident that there might be a bit of attraction and liking there, on both sides.
But that`s really all. So I am not sure what there is that could end. Except the hide-away-games. And as for the "liking", it`s all quite innocent and harmless, really. It`s not like we did "do" anything wrong. lol

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No worries Ceri

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Thanks for the below Ceri, here is my FB(I might edit out later so pls not quotes), it resonated very well. This resonates with another reading you have given to me in the past - I did notice fish comes up alot in general readings you have done for me too.

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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
Vacant Gazer

I agree, we do "get" each other. He is a bit closed off with his feelings, but i think slowly he is opening up more
1. The Foundation
SUN + FISH
a good stable and profound foundation is there. Deep joy and happiness, and I think just a basic liking of and "getting" each other. Very warm feelings.

There was no one else involved, when we were together it was just us two. However he was once in love before and I think he was very fearful of having that pain again. We do chat online more since he moved
2. The Recent Past
SNAKE + STARS

Was there another woman involved in this in the past? Or some disagreements about where you are heading?
Stars look positive here, could also denote some either spiritual link or even one over online communication.

Hmm a deepening of sexual attraction (in an almost tantric sense) is also a possibility.

distance and communication of emotions is lacking

3. Current State of Relationship
MOUNTAIN + BOUQUET

There are delays and obstacles that hinder the progress of sharing affection, though I think the feelings are there, they are just blocked from open expression.


Communication is an obstacle for sure
4. Obstacles they Both Face
LETTER + KEY

Communication is key! Maybe you have to communicate more clearly to get this relationship moving again?


All true - maybe more emotionally immature, but i wouldn't say naive
5. Views of Partner One ( how they perceive the relationship)
CHILD + KEY

a very significant relationship, one that is new and fresh, full of enthusiasm and potential, but in the beginning stages, and it might be that you sometimes view the other person as a little immature or too naive.

I believe this to be true because of past experience, but I partially feel like this myself
6. Views of Partner Two
MICE + SUN

He seems to harbour a lot of doubts and anxieties. worrying that something might take away from the happiness and joy you share(d) or could share. However with the Sun coming last, I think his worries will lighten up and he will have new hope again.


Im would like a reconiliation but im also fearful of rejection, I doubt he will express his feelings soon
7. Expectations of Partner One (current)
RIDER + CLOUD

Are you expecting bad news?
Possibly about a third person or through a third person?
However clouds are passing, right?
Maybe you are also expecting that there will be no clear communication for now.

Told me recently he would like to settle
8. Expectations of Partner Two
ANCHOR + STARS

lol. he expects this to be a committed long lasting relationship, that will be all he could hope for.

Communicaion of feelings is a bit of an issue, I do feel a strong connection between us, even if we are not meant to be, it's significant at least
9. Best Outcome

FISH + CLOUD - STARS

A deep profound spiritual soulconnection is in the cards, one that could give you a lot of warm feelings, however there will occasionally be clouds darkening the sight, but it seems to be passing. However I do think there needs to be very honest communication about your needs and wishes to make that happen.


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