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Orange
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posted July 30, 2015 02:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Orange     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Btw, Cer and Lee,
I just pulled a few cards for me to see how things between us will be if i sign the papers and get on with him
And i got - btw, i didnt want to pick wish cards by hand because the reading is for myself, so i pulled the cards one by one from the top of the deck after shuffling, cutting and thinking about the question -
So i got:
Sun - Anchor - Ship - Heart - House

Awwww yey

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posted July 30, 2015 02:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Please, Orange, have mercy on us. Neon Green or Neon Yellow suits NO bridesmaid, not even Leeloo, Dani or me.

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posted July 30, 2015 02:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Orange     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
Please, Orange, have mercy on us. Neon Green or Neon Yellow suits NO bridesmaid, not even Leeloo, Dani or me.

Hehege ..... Pack your suitcases, y'all are coming to America :-)
electric blue or hot pink, maybey

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posted July 30, 2015 02:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
If you make that electric blue Royal blue, I will look great. Pink suits me, too. they say

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posted July 30, 2015 03:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Orange     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I like Royal Blue, too! ;-)

There will be tiaras, too. And sparkling wands. I just came up with that idea, heheh

Im sure you'll look great in it, standing proudly like you always do. Then post the pic on Patrick's facebook with a note - sorry to have been awol from your last concert , i know you are terribly disappointed, but i had to retrieve my magic wand this weekend.

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posted July 30, 2015 03:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Lol
Since he knows I am an addict, we can consider that as a (futile) try in rehabilitation; chances are he want to have a tiara, though.

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posted July 30, 2015 03:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Orange     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ahahaha.. You'd get him a matching tiara then. Amerikanische

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posted July 30, 2015 03:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I am not even kidding, as much as he loves dressing up as woman/ girl (is that cause for concern btw? ) on stage, he would lvoe having a tiara.

Well they say in every man there is some sort of inner woman. Well his must be a blonde girl with glasses and braids, very nervous, shy and awkward and fidgety then.
And a desastrous sense of fashion.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1hpv5yEawc8

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posted July 30, 2015 04:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Orange     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I cant watch the video now, but wearing female attire so openly means he is comfortable with his inner feminine side and very confident with his masculine side. He doesnt feel like he needs to prove anything to anyone. He is having fun. A Tiara will make him chuckle

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posted July 30, 2015 04:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Orange:
A Tiara will make him chuckle

Did you just edit? I swear I was reading "giggle". LOL

Never mind, yes, totally.
And yes to the other thing, too. he is very comfortable I think, which is fascinating to me, and thus it sometimes comes as a surprise at how selfdepreciating he can be, especially when it comes to his weight, masking it under jokes naturally, but well it`s sometimes there.
definitely was obvious when I saw him in january (and him witnessing me getting less and less, on every concert or event certainly did nto help his confidence at that point), but he`s been taking up the work again and it payed off already.

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posted July 30, 2015 04:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Orange     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yea, i wrote giggle but thought he would chuckle instead

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posted July 30, 2015 04:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Well I guess it depends if he is wearing trousers or a dress at that time.

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posted July 30, 2015 05:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LeeLoo2014     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Ceridwen:
Please, Orange, have mercy on us. Neon Green or Neon Yellow suits NO bridesmaid, not even Leeloo, Dani or me.

I would wear neon green for orange if she makes that spread happen

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posted July 30, 2015 05:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for VacantGazer     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:
Whaddya doing up, Ceri?

Lucky you! here, have a slice

Vesta, hand me your plate, dear


Any left?

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posted July 30, 2015 06:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Orange     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:

I would wear neon green for orange if she makes that spread happen


awwwwwwe..You better, I have this in writing now!

No way the bouquet will miss such a flashing target.
Oh and Ceri's gonna be hit with one too

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posted July 30, 2015 06:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Believe me I have a sixth sense in telling me how to dodge that bullet.

I simply fall for married men, that minimizes the dangers.

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posted July 30, 2015 06:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
And Vacant Gazer,

chocolate cake? In my proximity?
And you ask if there is something left?

You dreaming?

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posted July 30, 2015 08:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Orange     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

Or

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posted July 30, 2015 10:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Orange     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ceri,

1. The Foundation

2 of Pentacles - Knight of Wands

Something new appeared on the horizon and things havent been the same again. New beginnings. Going with the flow. Juggling two options at once. To be or not to be. Change in the air. Adventure. Enthusiasm. The surge of excitment put the foundation to what it is today.

2. The Recent Past

6 of Swords - Knight of Pentacles

Recent past - you went thru some huge disappointment but you were able to move away from the troubled times. A change of attitude. Time healed the wounds. Changed perspectives.

3. Current State of Relationship

The Hanged man - 3 of Wands

Things are in a limbo. A period of slowed actions. a testing period. You planted the seeds and now are waiting to see what will grow out of it. Reflection.

4. Obstacles they Both Face

5 of Swords - Judgement

Some sort of tiredness will set in. You may feel defeated or simply start thinking negative. There will be thoughts about what is right and what is not. Pessimism may set in due to overthinking. Well, dont! This would be an obstacle to achieve your goals.

5. Views of Partner One ( how they perceive the relationship)

The Sun - 8 of swords

It's perceived as warm and shiny as the Sun itself. It also seems to be viewed as " impossible" since the 8 of swords is about self-imposed bondage and blockage. Stuck in a difficult situation. Which The Sun makes it hard to let go off as it feels sooooo good.

6. Views of Partner Two

The Moon - Death

Strong emotions. Dreams. Imagination. Fantasy. Fluctuating moods and uncertainty. Gut feelings that something is going on under the surface but cant access the roots of it. Empowerment, Revitalization( Death).

7. Expectations of Partner One (current)

The Fool - 8 of Pents

Expectations are for the beginning of a new journey, building a strong relationship. A leap into the unknown. Potential. A new way of perceiving things. Childlike wonder.

8. Expectations of Partner Two

6 of cups - Page of Pent

Nostalgia, wants and expects to feel uninhibited, no restrictions, honest talks. Expectations for a beneficial change and the beginning of a solid foundation.

9. Best Outcome

10 of Wands - Justice - 7 of swords - Wheel of Fortune

Carrying a heavy load, an overload. Can you take it? Feelings of defeat and deceit. Are you on the right track? Things get stuck in a status quo until The Wheel of Fortune swirls on at the end, and all of sudden, a new horizon opens up in front of you. What a view!

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posted July 31, 2015 12:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thank you, lovely Orange.

For what reason ever, and despite having such brilliant wonderful (and less wonderful ) spreads before, but right now I feel like THIS possibly is one of those that resonate the most.
And yes I know it is not even one of the most positive, but it feels just very very fitting.

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posted July 31, 2015 12:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Orange     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'm glad the spread turned out like that, sugar!
The cards fell at all the right spots to deliver the message

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posted July 31, 2015 12:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You agree with me then?

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posted July 31, 2015 12:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LeeLoo2014     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Orange here turned out to be a Tarot poetess

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posted July 31, 2015 01:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
A few thoughts...

"Change in the air. "
To put it simple though all your keywords HIT.

That`s how it feels. Something changed or is on the verge of changing, even though I can of course not grasp or verify it.
And the surprising thing is it`s not just him that is changing. (if he is).
But I can really only talk about myself, and the change certainly relates to me, too.

I suppose hence the intense dreams in the last days ranging from a sudden and previously unnoticed pregnancy over the running away/escape scenario to the climbing uphill a steep mountain (surprisingly a familiar one, one that I apparently had crossed, or tried to cross before, and well had to cross again, cause my home was on the other side of that mountain, not here where I was standing. It was a strange, but strangely lighthearted dream. And the mountain was REALLY high, you couldnīt even see where the path led! Other than that it was a sunny day and seemed even sunnier higher up above).

"you went thru some huge disappointment but you were able to move away from the troubled times. A change of attitude. Time healed the wounds. Changed perspectives."
Yes, perfectly said.
I would say the wounds are -almost- healed. Well a lot of wounding in the past, in my very personal past (which of course led to behavioural patterns and thought patterns that were more detrimental than helpful) , but of course there has been wounding as well coming from him, unaware of course; well I was not jumping with joy when I heard him announce his engagement on a concert; on the other hand, if he had actually been aware of me before, as it seemed, my evasive, avoidant and defensively detached behaviour must have felt in the very least weird to him, and possibly a little rude or even like a rejection.
Jeez, if I think back of it, seriously, thinking with my slightly altered perception now, not just of me but connections between people in general, when I think of it, I have pushed him away (in a passive way) or held him on armlength distance so many times.
No, of course he never made a REAL move on me; he just approached me repeatedly during his shows, was around me inmy proximity during the breaks so often, that at least once I pretty much sought my escape to the toilet (which did not help, ther was a line there with waiting women, and naturally he showed up there as well, making some rather bad jokes; he is such a jokster, but the few times we talked or were near each other, it amazed me, what crappy jokes he was making. But sort of cute anyhow).
And I disapeared - again and again and - repeat after me- AGAIN.
And then despite that, I remember that I wanted to have a short word with him after a show in november 2013, just to balance things out again, after he had spent yet ANOTHER whole evening standing one or 2 metres in my back, and each of us ignoring the other. I mean there was a moment when I leaned back to grab a drink that was on the bar, where he was leaning with his back to, and entertaining a group of female fans (I was standing at a table with a few women I never even met before, and sort of entertaining some of the other actors, not sure why but some of them sort of gravitated to where I was. It was a Queen-of-Wands-day i suppose. )

Anyway, so while I was leaning back grabbing my drink, and he had just moved his head sideways, and we were staring at each other, all the while continuing talking to our respective groups and managing to ignore each other, while staring at each other.
Now THAT was a weird moment, and THAT was the last drop for me. It could not continue like this. So when he left (I was actualy on the verge of leaving myself) I wanted at least leave having said: Hi, to see if we could bring that on a normal level again.
Yet, when I went out into the hall he was in a talk, and I was just standing there and buttoning up my coat, and gazing longingly at the exit-door. I mean it. So enticing. EXIT. ESCAPE.
And i would have gone without having said anything, but he was faster than me. I had not noticed him ending the talk, but suddenly he was standing in front of me, and effectively blocking the door, and it was him who said `Hi`first, and it felt like he had just been waiting for me to break that weird ignorance-pattern between us. Like he had not simply recognized me, but freaking waited for this.
Iīll never forget the kindness and warmth in his eyes when he was looking at me or the softness in his voice (or the fact that he was standing MUCH too close, to the point that had I taken just half a step forwards we either would have hugged or both stumbled and fallen to the ground. lol).
It shocked me quite a bit. The talk itself was not so important. Well he DID tell me to get active on facebook. lol
At that time I had not even had an account.


Of course in his own private life at that time his girlfriend got pregnant (pretty much at EXACTLY that timeframe) and they got married a few weeks or months later (there was not much time in between).

Nevertheless that moment was still an important one. even though I did not FULLY grasp its meaning, I still donīt. It was just a nice moment I suppose, and a good one to make a last attempt of making our connection a normal one, while actually acknowlegding it. You know me, I know you.
Nothing more. That`s all I wanted.

sorry for the novel. lol

"Pessimism may set in due to overthinking. Well, dont! "
LOL
Yes, you are right. It already has set in the overthinking, the negativity.
Another possibility is facing judgementalism, gossip, nasty rumours, or simply hostility of others.

"so seems to be viewed as " impossible" since the 8 of swords is about self-imposed bondage and blockage. Stuck in a difficult situation. Which The Sun makes it hard to let go off as it feels sooooo good."
Yes, definitely. And I find it funny that The Sun comes up for me, and for him the Moon. lol


"The Moon - Death"
I love your take.
Additionally I was thinking about, he might view that (now) as the death of confusion and unclarity.


"The Fool - 8 of Pents

Expectations are for the beginning of a new journey, building a strong relationship. A leap into the unknown. Potential. A new way of perceiving things. Childlike wonder."
Yes - but also a work in progress.
I am not expecting much. actually.


"9. Best Outcome

10 of Wands - Justice - 7 of swords - Wheel of Fortune

Carrying a heavy load, an overload. Can you take it? Feelings of defeat and deceit. Are you on the right track? Things get stuck in a status quo until The Wheel of Fortune swirls on at the end, and all of sudden, a new horizon opens up in front of you. What a view!"

Makes sense, all of it. Questions and doubts? Certainly.
Also what is it that I really want?
Even if he feels a real tangible connection to me (and I am not saying he does), am I ready for this? Really?
I mean letīs be honest, how comfortable that he is already taken and unavailable!
I donīt have to address that question for myself then, and stay in my comfort zone, maybe poking my nose out a little now and then, but not really, no way.
Just having the feeling I might have outlasted my stay here though. in the comfort zone you know?

And the Wheel of Fortune: the future is yet unwritten it tells me. And so it should be. maybe. or not known to me.
This is just the beginning of the path.
For us? Maybe (whatever path there can be for us, even that is totally open, undecided, and Iīve actually comfortably settled in fanmode. REminds me nicely of my comfort zone. )

For me? Certainly.


Iīve sort of accomplished what I`ve set out for. Acknowledgement. Awareness.

What I did not consider before .... it`s not just about me. Other people have thoughts and feelings, too. Even actors.

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posted July 31, 2015 01:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Orange     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It's great that you are aware, Cer
It sets the difference between "acting despite" vs "acting because" . Huge difference.

LoLo,
Mmmmmwah

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