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LeeLoo2014
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posted August 06, 2015 01:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LeeLoo2014     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
WARNING: deep stuff!


First theme:

What am I here for? What am I supposed to accomplish? What is my purpose here, my archetype? The higher meaning of my life.


5 cards. Core card. Mirroring.

I'd love Tarot.

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I seem to have loved you in numberless forms...

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posted August 06, 2015 02:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You. Me. Exchange?!

* got the feeling you don´t like many words today.

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posted August 06, 2015 02:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LeeLoo2014     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

You're so funny Ceri thank you for making me laugh.

Jane Tarzan today

OK, let's do the deed!

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posted August 06, 2015 02:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:
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OK, let's do the deed!


ERm, I suppose that is what R is for for you.

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posted August 06, 2015 02:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Orange     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
LoLo

I know you want Tarot but Leno here.

TREE - LILLY - CLOVER - SCYTHE - STARS

You are an old soul who reincarnated again to bring peace and tranquility and help other people wherever you go.
At some point in your life, you will have a lucky break ( clover+ scythe) and your Star will shine.

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posted August 06, 2015 02:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
ok let usn begin


Page of Cups
3 of wands

7 of cups

Knight of Cups
Lovers


What a lovely spread.

You are here for LOVE
However you are also here for creativity (cups are about creativity as well, and lovers represents gemini after all - creative words play a role)


However the central theme is the 7 of cups - you have many gifts, many options, so you have to choose wisely; you may also have to pay attention to stay on the path of that which is realistic or possible to accomplish, and bringing your dreams into reality-


There is a youthful innocent vibe to you, at least in the beginning, creativity that just pours out of you, especially if inspired by love. In fact love may be the greatest inspiration of all, for you and people around you. I also have to think of you bringing the offer (page) of twinsouls or soulmates (lovers) to others, your understanding of them, and here we can clearly see your perspective on them being here to accomplish the perfect love, something you strive for yourself.
And with that spread possibly have a great chance of manifesting love in this happiests most blissful form.

Then we have the 3 of wands, which to me is a card not only about longing for someone, but also about making something, producing it, investing energy to expect results. and it is a card of communication. Don´t ask me where that comes from. But to me it always represents honest open frank and engaging communication and hence the fiery creative spark is here, taking the emotional input and sort of starting to shape it such that it might yield visible tangible results. this is mirrored by the Knight of Cups, so more passion more emotions, and they gets heightened until the aim is accomplished, the uniting of what belongs together, either lovers or creative products.


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posted August 06, 2015 03:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LeeLoo2014     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ceri, tzk tzk tzk I meant Tarotdeeds sista! Tarzan will take care of the implementation


Ceri,

Your Archetype

THREE OF WANDS

EXPLORATION
FORESIGHT
LEADERSHIP

exploring the unknown
seeking out uncharted areas
going in quest of new adventure
expanding horizons
leaving the secure behind
tackling something different

having foresight
being visionary
looking for greater possibilities
planning ahead
knowing what to expect
getting a premonition
anticipating obstacles
taking the long view

demonstrating leadership
showing others the way
taking the main role
providing needed direction
rallying the group behind you
assuming a responsible position
setting an example
serving as a representative

Wow so much to say here, an entire saga...I am thinking about keywords now....


We share two cards how nice!

Honestly, I could make my doctorate on your spread

I'm gonna focus on the central card. It has to do something with a new path, a path of the future, Uranus. Perhaps astrology is here as well. You are a visionary. Lessons/experiences about immortality are possible. A message to the people about it. Then I also see the same theme you emphasized in my archetype: discerning between dreams vs. illusion, cutting through the Neptunian fog. You seem to have a clear, specific purpose in this life, coming from these two giants: Uranus and Neptune. Maybe with the help of everything happening on your ASC, Mercury and Mars?
There is also a strong message about the next world, the next generations: death + world. Apocalypse and resurrection.
You must have experienced this feeling, as if dying, at least once in your life, as a way of regeneration.
Your archetype is a DREAM OF THE FUTURE. Clear and cutting edge.

But there are many possible interpretations here.

EDIT: I think your lesson is to become decisive. And the most important one: to venture into the unknown, to move forward.
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posted August 06, 2015 03:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Orange     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I dont need exchange, btw

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posted August 06, 2015 03:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LeeLoo2014     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Orange:
I dont need exchange, btw

You don't want your archetype, my dear?

What if it's Cleopatra!?

let me try

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posted August 06, 2015 03:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LeeLoo2014     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
sorry about the "Neptunian dog"...my computer is funny tonight.

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posted August 06, 2015 03:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LeeLoo2014     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
LOVELOVELOVELOVELOVELOVELOVELOVELOVELOVELOVE

Thank you!

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posted August 06, 2015 03:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Orange     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Oh,

And for Ceri i got:

DOG - BEAR - CROSS - RIDER - SUN

It seems that Ceri came to this world with a cross to bear.
You were given the family support and the strength of a Bear and the consistency and the honest heart of a Dog to handle the Cross.
At some point in your life, a younger man will arrive and change your life for the better. Sun.
I pulled a card on the Rider and it was the Tree - he will stay for life. Tree usually means in three years ftom the reading.

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posted August 06, 2015 03:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LeeLoo2014     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Orange:
LoLo

I know you want Tarot but Leno here.

TREE - LILLY - CLOVER - SCYTHE - STARS

You are an old soul who reincarnated again to bring peace and tranquility and help other people wherever you go.
At some point in your life, you will have a lucky break ( clover+ scythe) and your Star will shine.


Aww this is so amazing! Thank you

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posted August 06, 2015 03:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LeeLoo2014     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Orange:
Oh,

And for Ceri i got:

DOG - BEAR - CROSS - RIDER - SUN

It seems that Ceri came to this world with a cross to bear.
You were given the family support and the strength of a Bear and the consistency and the honest heart of a Dog to handle the Cross.
At some point in your life, a younger man will arrive and change your life for the better. Sun.
I pulled a card on the Rider and it was the Tree - he will stay for life. Tree usually means in three years ftom the reading.


This is lovely!

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posted August 06, 2015 04:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LeeLoo2014     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Sunshine,

your primary type, the one you are supposed to embody, is the magnificent Queen of Swords


Honest
faces the truth, even if unpleasant
is up front with everyone
likes everything on the table
plays by the rules
avoids lies and deception

Astute
sizes up a situation quickly
understands hidden motives and desires
is difficult to fool, trick or con
figures out the unspoken rules and agendas
is quick on the uptake

Forthright
is direct and open in all dealings
gets to the heart of the matter
acts without pretense or guile
is straightforward and no-nonsense
can be candid when necessary

Witty
has a delightful sense of humor
diffuses awkward situations with a funny remark
never takes anything too seriously
laughs at everything, including him or herself

Experienced
has seen and done it all
has strength due to life's hard knocks
is free of self-righteous judgments
has realistic expectations

Your lesson (higher purpose) is to know how to play by the rules, especially in relationship and heart matters, and embody the highest vibration of Libra.

EVOLUTIONARY SPIRAL: (According to Alan Oken, Soul-Centered Astrology) – as we grow holistically, we spiral upward from Personality-centered >>> Awakening to Soul-Personality relationship >>>Soul-Centered Individual.

Functioning on the totally Personality-Centered Level – LIBRA, on this level, has relationships for the sake of having them. LIBRA’s need to experience the projecting of his personality and the external response to the ego is all-encompassing. The stronger LIBRA PERSONALITY’s motto is: “Be cooperative and do things my way!” At this stage, LIBRA is aware of people solely as vehicles of response for his personal self-expression. The drama and passion of “love affairs” is at the heart of the personality-centered LIBRA. He loves passionately for the purpose of fulfilling his personal desires. LIBRA’s natural charm and social skills are often used to mask their real goal—the urge to emerge from any relationship as victorious. LIBRA’s polarity energy, ARIES, is the Warrior whose personal qualities are combative and aggressive. LIBRA uses this Warrior energy to engage another person in a drama of “point and counterpoint.” Relationships with a Mars-ruled Aries and Scorpio (Mars is the personality ruler of both signs) can be especially Warrior-like.

Awakening to the Soul-Personality Relationship – on this level, LIBRA grows increasingly aware of the true meaning of oppositional energies and of the “other” within his relationships. The urge to be victorious over the “other” gives way to a need to bring about a balanced rapport within the relationship. The urge for harmony expands into the arts, business, politics, and more abstract philosophies. LIBRA’s purpose on this level is to gain an increased association with love. The duality between the lower and Higher selves is more pronounced. The search for the ideal partner, one who complements LIBRA’s goals and aspirations, begins to dominate his personal approach to relationships. LIBRA develops a refinement in his taste for beauty and a desire for fair play between self and others. At this stage, LIBRA is very aware of the increased tension that occurs within self when the environment is not harmonious – or – when he is not being just or fair to others. LIBRA now strives to treat all things equally. While at this stage, LIBRA rides the seesaw up and down between the lower self and the Higher Self/Soul. He is constantly weighing the opposing forces.

Soul-Centered Individual – LIBRA has now balanced the lower self with the Higher Self/Soul. His personality and Soul are in alignment. LIBRA is now an active and conscious worker for the benefit of humanity. LIBRA is the personification of the Law of Right Human Relations and strives to create unity between all persons. He is busy in the outer world, bridging and fusing ideas and social structures in order to advance the Divine Plan. Now, LIBRA is adapt at dealing with the chaos of a variety of opposing forces—to perceive a common thread weaving among them. The shared vision of the group is now LIBRA’s goal. The soul-centered LIBRA is a social innovator, the cohesive force in the world of finance, politics, and diplomacy. The ultimate goal is to create a balance between his expression of Will, Love, & Intelligence in every situation of life. LIBRA now perceives the One Humanity and views life through the 3rd Eye (the eye of the Soul).

POSITIVE CHARACTERISTICS:

The I BALANCE, THEREFORE I AM sign is the turning point on the evolutionary spiral. Living through the first six zodiac sign energies has given the individual Soul a sense of “selfness.” In LIBRA, the soul embarks on the development of the soul as he learns to cooperate within relationships. LIBRA, as the sign of marriage, must move away from functioning in the “me” consciousness and enter the “we” consciousness. LIBRA possesses an excellent, executive type mind. LIBRA likes to travel and explore new horizons. Though LIBRA can be “sweet” and diplomatic on the surface, there is a fist of iron underneath the velvet glove. Still, LIBRA is the diplomat par excellence. He is friendly, extroverted, fair-minded, and interested in living life to the fullest. There is a strong sense of justice and the will to do good. LIBRA has a refined appearance and taste; he likes for his home to be beautiful and peaceful. The LIBRAN smile is legendary for its ability to melt the hearts of those around him. LIBRA is happiest in work that involves partnership and is located in a pleasant environment. He is appreciative of the arts, even when not talented in them. LIBRA’s natural charm, intuition, and social skills fit him well for the social arena. He is usually calm and even-tempered. In love, LIBRA is affectionate and loyal. Functioning on the soul-centered level, LIBRA is the ideal of spiritual beauty—beauty that is more than skin deep. At this stage, LIBRA may not be interested in marriage; he has married within himself. Now, LIBRA is graceful, beautiful/handsome, and wise with a wide circle of friends.

NEGATIVE CHARACTERISTICS: (Remember that as you focus on developing your positive characteristics, the negative ones tend to disappear. Those who express in negative ways are frustrated, consciously or unconsciously, because they are not being who they truly are.)

LIBRA finds it almost impossible to remain emotionally stable while surrounded by discord. As a result, LIBRA will often settle for “peace at any price.” LIBRA can be indecisive, dependent, lazy, insincere, and self-indulgent. Because LIBRA is tenacious, he finds it hard to be generous. Due to a tendency to be “in love with love,” he may rush into a marriage and end up in a difficult relationship. LIBRA procrastinates, tends to worry over health issues. LIBRA has a difficult time accepting that some people will inevitably dislike him. He will, therefore, delude himself as to why some people react as they do. LIBRA, in an effort to keep the peace, will allow others to dominate him—to the point of living life through the mate or children. LIBRA can, thereby, lose his sense of individuality and self-esteem. On the other hand, LIBRA can consciously change his energy within a relationship. He can as easily be warm and gentle as he can be aloof and distant. LIBRA can be the lovely/handsome, mysterious individual at a party—the one the opposite sex finds so alluring. Then, the charm can be turned off and in its place is the cool man/woman who is totally in control. LIBRA goes through life “weighing persons in the balance.” Often the spouse suffers most from this tendency to judge. Because LIBRA seeks the ideal spouse (the soul mate), he may judge his partner harshly—believing that the grass is greener somewhere else. In his efforts to be victorious, LIBRA can also be the manipulator within relationships.

A LIBRA INCARNATION presents the opportunity for the soul to rest before moving into the transformative struggles that characterize Scorpio. A LIBRA INCARNATION relates to the 7th Day of Creation, a karmic hiatus. A sense of self has been achieved during incarnations in the first 6 zodiac signs; now a day of rest is permissible. A LIBRA INCARNATION will focus on relationships, on balancing the personality and the soul while relating to the external world.

And something I think you will enjoy

LIBRA & ARIES are vitally connected in a way that the other polarities are not. LIBRA’s two symbols (the scales and the book) are the only inanimate symbols in the zodiac. The scales nor the book have life or prana because they do not breathe. Likewise, LIBRA often tends to be a spectator in life, an observer who fears making mistakes, who believes the odds are against him, so why fight? Only in the area of romance will this type LIBRA come alive.

The active, courageous, alive fire energy of ARIES can be used to breathe life into LIBRA. This requires a conscious effort on the part of LIBRA to incorporate the innate energy that lies within him—a gift from his polarity, ARIES. LIBRA must consciously practice the virtues of ARIES until a comfortable balance is achieved. Hidden beneath LIBRA’s calm, relaxed energy is an outstanding capacity to move out into the world with a sense of refinement, executive mindset, and innovation that holds the potential to greatly benefit humankind.

Failure to recharge one’s Sun Sign energy results in depletion, irritability, and increased vulnerability to physical and emotional dis-eases. The element of one’s Sun Sign is the fuel needed to feel alive. It is the source of vitality and power, the resource for coping with stress and challenges.

LIBRA recharges by: 1) Regular association with other airy people, such as Gemini and Aquarius. 2) LIBRA gets its power from the air—its element. The highly electric air of the mountains is especially helpful. For a LIBRA, more so than the other air signs, a mountain retreat home can be most helpful. Here LIBRA can find the peaceful, beautiful surroundings that so refresh him. 3) Close personal relationships with people of like mind. Social engagements and entertainment recharge LIBRA. Work and relationships that allow for intellectual freedom, stimulation, and the expression of LIBRA’s ideas also recharge the air element.

CONFLICT RESOLUTION: LIBRA, especially on the personality level, is the manipulator par excellence who gets his way using one subtle technique or another. This is maddening to the partner/mate who ends up feeling guilty over being angry with “sweet” LIBRA. Meanwhile, LIBRA strives to be victorious over any confrontation in ways that “appear” to be graceful. LIBRA is to learn to be honest with self and others and to learn the art of compromise.

I can see there are two important men in your life, and one will be with you until the end

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posted August 06, 2015 04:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LeeLoo2014     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I told you it's Cleopatra

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posted August 06, 2015 04:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Vajra     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted August 06, 2015 04:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Orange     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
LoLo,

You mean This Queen of Swords..

Thank you sooo much, for the information, sis
I can totally relate to the Queen of Swords! Im too straightforward not to be.
You said there are two important men on my life. Where do you see that in the string? And which card is the man who'd stay. ? Am i going to be there?( Lol . Trying to be a smart arse here).
Smooches

Ok, Ceri, i dont need an exchange , just saying..

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posted August 06, 2015 04:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LeeLoo2014     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It's interesting you have the King of Cups as a primary theme. Your animus is strong. It means men help you accomplish you purpose, big time. Especially wise, higher vibrations of water men. They are your guides in this life.

With Page of swords and Death (since I am using mirroring for this spread, for clues) I thin you need to cut the dead wood, so to speak. Being radical and cleaning the past to make way for the future, especially trimming the woods so to speak (dream alert!) is a major task.

That's the first idea I got, I'll think about it more...


EDIT: The last three especially correspond somehow with my 'Big Three' in astrology - Cancer Sun, Aries Moon, Scorpio AC. Weird.

amazing! you have Three Lanterns here, so to speak.

That would be a high Cardinal vibration applied to the Scorpio ASC.

or viceversa...Sc ASC serving a high Cardinal vibration. More this, I think...

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posted August 06, 2015 04:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LeeLoo2014     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Orange:
LoLo,

You mean This Queen of Swords..

Thank you sooo much, for the information, sis
I can totally relate to the Queen of Swords! Im too straightforward not to be.
You said there are two important men on my life. Where do you see that in the string? And which card is the man who'd stay. ? Am i going to be there?( Lol . Trying to be a smart arse here).
Smooches

Ok, Ceri, i dont need an exchange , just saying..


Yep. The tripping NDE Ecstasy QOS

well, sweetie, it's the Hierophant and the King of Pentacles
Think the Pope and Henry the 8th.

Richard Burton and Peter O'Toole. (that would be another Henry)

You will be there

I think the page of cups is about love, but also relationships in general. It's a major theme in your life, based on this spread. I think you have a high Libra purpose to accomplish.

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posted August 06, 2015 04:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Vajra     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted August 06, 2015 04:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LeeLoo2014     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Vajra:
Cutting the dead wood also resonates. In fact I've been doing it these past few months, even physically, by getting rid of stuff I don't need any more…another idea for the Death card I just got is surrender. Somehow I regularly arrive at points in my life where I can't see the next step, with hindsight it all makes sense but during the transition phases it can seem scary. Maybe this is related to the death theme; not clinging to external security, just surrendering to the experience of whatever happens to come.

absolutely! brilliant idea; death in any spread, ceri's too, pushes us to surrender at some point; with the page of swords, it would be surrendering one's mind, thinking, intellect, words, and even ideas, which is not easy for smart people, especially with Gem energy, they are counting on their intellect, rational intelligence

So strange how the cards pick up on symbolism already existing elsewhere (such as astro charts)... Maybe the Swords/Justice on the one side (which points to fairness/logic etc.) together with the King of Cups also points to the difficulty of integrating the ideals of truth and kindness in everyday life, something I find extremely challenging to do as there is no perfect solution and one must always improvise day by day.

what is interesting here, apart from what you said, is that Justice and 2 of wands, although both being dual and about balance, they are somehow antagonistic cards: Justice is about the law of cause and effect and the "order" of things, something rigid, if we look at it from a certain POV; 2 of Wands of the other hand, is about an original approach, an original mastery plan, he is an explorer. 2 of Wands is often depicted as/compared to C. Columbus; in this case, Justice would be more like the Inquisition So your archetype would fight to open new roads for exploration and self-exploration with rigid structures, inside and out. With King of Cups, friends and protectors. even mentors, are of great help and use to you in this battle.

*edit* Dear God, isn't Justice and the Swords in general related to Libra energy? In that case the spread pictures my entire cardinal T-square structure - Pluto and Uranus in Libra opp. Moon, Jupiter and Chiron in Aries square Sun and Saturn in Cancer combined with the Scorp AC and 8th House apex energy. Wow! Maybe this is actually the Tarot's way of saying: "Darling, I already told you what you're here for, the info is in your astro chart, silly. Now bugger off!" I swear my cards sometimes do this to me.


so very nice! tarot is amazing! this is an example of what it can do. everything is in the same place. it's the same story told with different symbols. but I think this helps us to believe and follow its trail

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posted August 06, 2015 04:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Astro keen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Leeloo,

Would you do mine please? This spread looks amazing. Would love to get some answers to the questions this addresses.
Let me know how you would like the exchange.

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posted August 06, 2015 05:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LeeLoo2014     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
OK, AK, I am doing yours now but then I have to return to experimento

I would love for you to do the same for me, the same spread, thank you!

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