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florence
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posted August 15, 2015 07:02 PM
  
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LeeLoo2014
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posted August 15, 2015 07:13 PM
It's important to know the nature of the trial, if one is to help with interpretation.I am afraid your spread suggests the opponent (5 of wands) may win, especially if it is a man (Knight of Pentacles). They have an ace up their sleeve (7 of sw), the querent is unaware of ( 8 of sw). 7 of sw 8 of sw has a double "ace" connotaton, although the ace here seems to help the querent, but it could mean: "nothing helps because of this ace". Emperor - Devil is the lawyer, the opposite lawyer team. They seem to win, I'm afraid. Page of pents is an exhibit or a witness, more likely first version. (probably what they have that is unknown to the querent) Telling the truth, fighting (Ace of sw) (probably for a long time, with Strength) is the best shot of the querent. The trial seems to take a loooong time: Strength + Knight of Pentacles. Also, someone is likely to pay damage or fines or something, the one who loses. ------------------
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florence
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posted August 15, 2015 07:21 PM
That's beautiful, the way you can interpret that. edited Thank you so much. IP: Logged |
LeeLoo2014
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posted August 15, 2015 07:27 PM
You're welcome 
I'm not very familiar with what you describe here, and the terms in English, but intuitively and in layman's terms I understand it's about getting out of the contract. X could be asked to stay put for a while (KoP, the knight who doesn't move) or pay something. Emperor is the bosses then, and Devil is the lawyer. What they will use (something X is unaware of, the page) is probably a clause. Good luck!------------------
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florence
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posted August 15, 2015 07:40 PM
I'll update next week. Thank you again - I'll tell x about this reading to be forearmed at least IP: Logged |
LeeLoo2014
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posted August 16, 2015 11:35 AM
I realized the Devil also means the binding nature of the contract  ------------------
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florence
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posted August 16, 2015 01:44 PM
thank you. It does sound right. Edited I was wondering how you know which is the querent / action or event / others but I'm gathering the placement and question helps & also thats the art of interpretation. But I might start a new thread on this too as so far I struggle with knowing which bit links with which part of the situation. I suppose that comes with practice too which is why I appreciate your input on this IP: Logged |
LeeLoo2014
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posted August 16, 2015 03:02 PM
5 of wands is traditionally "the opponent", the adversary, which made me think, in combination with the other cards, there is a chance the outcome favors the opponent (KoP). OR the fight should continue, if the querent is KoP, but the first thought is this.your spread is pretty straightforward, once we know more about the situation basis: moving out, moving on: chariot, taking a situation under control. opposing: being "tied up', also something one is not aware of, especially with the 7 of sw, as explained nature of the conflict: Hierophant: a contract, being part of an organization, needing to follow or break rules so here you asked clarification about the outcome adversary brings out the contract/rules (hierophant), and then we see negotiation about it and eventually the emperor (bosses, leadership of the organization) seems to overcome the querent, with devil. their instrument is money or a clause (page of pents) the page is looking at something, showing, examining something, in combination with the other cards ( 2 cards with eyes closed) it made me think the querent is not aware of something, something that may be used against them; as I said, possibly a clause. ------------------
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florence
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posted August 16, 2015 04:11 PM
Thank you so much. I've passed the info on and am going to read over this a few times to properly digest how the reading works(Going to edit out my q for querent a privacy. Hope you don't mind. The answers are fine but I'm just thinking even lawyers might believe in astrology ) IP: Logged |
littlecloud
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posted August 16, 2015 04:17 PM
I wanted to add that the devil is in the details (knight of pants). It adds to what leeloo is saying about the page of pents. My view is a tad different but overall same meaning. I think the chariot indicates that he rushed into this too fast without looking into everything which is why it will get dragged out (knight of pents again) because in his rush he failed to overlook some things and it gives the bosses the upper hand. However I believe that if he actually slows down and examines everything he'll go from page of pents to knight to the king. The good thing about having the chariot as a base despite rushing ahead is that no is not a good enough answer. That will to bring everything under control just needs to be focused and slowed a bit to make sure as to not lose control. IP: Logged |
florence
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posted August 16, 2015 06:13 PM
Littlecloud thank you for this interpretation. I think this is a strong possibility and its encouraging that there's hope. Both you and LeeLoo, what you say, I think does describe the situation - the direction & process so far. I can imagine this is all going on. The only thing is I'm seeing how difficult it actually is to hone in on the right angle. Great to see experienced readers processes during a reading for my own practice. Ty again IP: Logged |
LeeLoo2014
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posted August 16, 2015 06:56 PM
quote:
Originally posted by littlecloud:
I wanted to add that the devil is in the details
Nice touch! ------------------
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florence
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posted August 22, 2015 09:17 AM
Just wanted to feedback. I never want to pry too much I to the situation so isn't much. The company are settling at a minimum payout which is kind of no worse and no better than expected. However, x did say there is something 'funny' about the situation - when I said there was something they might not be aware of - as the company are determined he should sign by a specific date, no later. X is being sure to check this won't affect their tax - the payout is supposed to be tax-free but if not careful it could end up costing them. Maybe that's the checking with the page of pentacles with devil. I think you both got this in your readings - it could be that prevailing worry of this came through in the reading. I'll edit this out later. IP: Logged |
LeeLoo2014
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posted August 22, 2015 09:49 AM
Thank you for the feedback yeah, it does potentially look like the glitch with devil and page of pents. ------------------
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