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ImpassionedParis
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posted August 24, 2015 08:08 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi, LeeLoo.
I just bought tarot cards today and realized I'm not as good with them as I thought I'd be. My trouble is that they seem to, well, not work. I'm asking obvious questions to test them out, such as "am I physically going to go to Neptune today?" and "Will I go to Nebraska next week?" Both of which are definite "no" questions, but I get "yes" cards. I don't think they've been right yet. What should I do? What method should I adopt? It's discouraging me to the point I'm not even sure if I believe in tarot anymore, but at the same time, how is everyone else so accurate then? I even asked basic things like, "what is my mood right now?" and "what was my main mood today?" and it got questions like those wrong too. I don't understand how I'm supposed to trust the answers they give me to serious questions if they can't even answer simple, obvious ones.

Any advice would be appreciated, and if you care to exchange any time in the next few days (would be good practice for me!) then please let me know.

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LeeLoo2014
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posted August 25, 2015 07:36 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for LeeLoo2014     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
ahhh, sweetie, yes/no questions are the most difficult with any deck.

It's good to practice on questions you know at least part of the answer, but I suggest:

3 card spread, past/present/future for a matter you know about.

description spreads: how is X? (physical or personality)

descriptive spreads!

and start with one-card descriptions
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ImpassionedParis
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posted August 25, 2015 10:38 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:
ahhh, sweetie, yes/no questions are the most difficult with any deck.

It's good to practice on questions you know at least part of the answer, but I suggest:

3 card spread, past/present/future for a matter you know about.

description spreads: how is X? (physical or personality)

descriptive spreads!

and start with one-card descriptions


I tried that too, but they either give me a card irrelevant to the question or the incorrect one (I asked how will my first week of school be, and the cards in the past and present positions were pretty off, I also asked the cards to describe a few people I know and that was a miss too). I'm just not connecting with them, I guess. Thank you anyway (as always)!), LeeLoo.

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LeeLoo2014
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posted August 25, 2015 10:42 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for LeeLoo2014     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
IMO, you have to start with one card, and study the symbolism for each while doing these readings. What you did seems very complex. Tarot symbolism is much more complex than Leno, it needs some time to be learned, don't get discouraged so soon What deck do you have?

Can you give some examples of what you see as irrelevant cards for your questions?
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ImpassionedParis
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posted August 25, 2015 10:48 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I only pulled one card for the description questions. I have the Rider-Waite deck, it's simple but it's nice. I suppose On top not getting the right answers/cards I also think I'm not asking the right questions. I'm googling tarit right now and so many websites are saying not to use tarot for prediction/questions about what will happen. And there's too much conflicting information on whether or not to read reversals. So not only do I not know how to make them *work* or give me relevant answers when I can read the spread (or if I pull one card), I don't know where to begin.

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LeeLoo2014
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posted August 25, 2015 10:53 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for LeeLoo2014     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Rider Waite is the mother of Tarot, so to speak. Not the first, but the most important deck.

I would do simple readings, with any question you like, one card only, perhaps pulling a clarifier if you feel like and thus learning the meaning of the cards. No reversals until you know this meaning very well. It takes a long time and a lot of work to learn the meaning of RW tarot cards. They are full of both esoteric and mundane meanings.

Another way to go: start by using Major Arcana only, while reading about it.

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ImpassionedParis
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posted August 25, 2015 11:01 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Won't ignoring a reversed card make my interpretation wrong? Suppose I ask, "how is my personality" and I pull QoS reversed, but I ignore that it's reversed. I mean, I expected it to be hard, but I'd think the cards would've at least been accurate descriptions of events/people. Sure, I do have a lot to learn if I continue, but regardless of how complex a question is for a beginner, after a rough day when I ask how did my day go a positive card that represents serenity and peace in the present position and another positive one in the past position is still wrong.
I didn't expect for me to be great at it right away, but the cards not reflecting the situation accurately isn't due to my lack of knowledge; I didn't pick the card...they pick themselves, so to speak.

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LeeLoo2014
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posted August 25, 2015 11:53 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for LeeLoo2014     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Reversals require a complex method of shuffling, horizontal + vertical and knowing the card meanings very well. Your question is a bit weird since you probably get Leno rev too, but disregard them. Rev is just an addition to Tarot; it's up to you to include it or not, it's not inherent.

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ImpassionedParis
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posted August 25, 2015 11:55 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I think I won't include reversals, at least not for now. Thank you for your help, I appreciate it.

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LeeLoo2014
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posted August 25, 2015 12:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LeeLoo2014     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Perhaps my answer was weird too , sorry, what I mean is that if a RW card appears reversed, it is not trying to tell you a (rev) message unless you specified from the beginning in your mind that you include reversals in your spreads. Otherwise, no matter how it falls, it gives the upright meaning.

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ImpassionedParis
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posted August 25, 2015 01:34 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Makes sense, thanks.

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Randall
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posted August 29, 2015 09:27 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
What was her major malfunction?

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SophiasChoice
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posted August 29, 2015 01:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SophiasChoice     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I don't know, Randall. It was wickedly ugly though. Not cool at all.

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GeminiKarat
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posted August 30, 2015 05:05 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for GeminiKarat     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
In my personal opinion ImpassionateParis is a lost soul. She came here that someone may feed her bubble. As soon as those souls sees that a reading would burst this bubble a defensive mode starts with an attack. In her case she used Gypsies as an abusive word with the entire negative image of the word. I guess it would be similar to “voodoo nigger”( < ---- I do not know whether this word has a negative image) in America.
^^^^That happens a lot to good readers and LeeLoo2014 is one. It is very difficult to deal with those situations, BUT that is a different story.

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