posted August 30, 2015 12:00 AM            

After sharing our life stories with one another, second day of work mentions having a girlfriend. I don't for sure know what's going on between them but he's shared things with me about the relationship/her. It's not totally unusual because it seems like people are always sharing with me. I feel like there's a connection between. Maybe just the way I'm perceiving it.
Anyway I got the courage to tell him ( via text, after I lost my nerve to tell him the day before in person) that I enjoy him/his energy but I understand he's involved. Said if he wants to talk about anything anytime I'll listen.

He told me he appreciated that and if anything ever changed he'd let me know.

Did a reading very shortly after everything happened.

It was a 4 card spread:
1. How he sees himself
2. How he sees me
3. His feelings for me or our relationship
4. The status of the relationship

1. 6 of Wands
2. 8 of Pentacles
3. The Tower
4. 2 of Wands

Wands are connected to fire, action. Intense energy...recognition. he's sees himself as victorious? But why?

8 of pentacles he sees me as student (he is teaching me) maybe someone hard working....but considering what I told him could it be he thinks being with me would be hard work?

Tower as his feelings, there was a realization, something changed. I surprised him. I would/could shake up his world. Seems like there could be more to the tower.

Last is 2 of wands. Wands is action. Well in the card there are two wands and he's holding one with a globe in the other. So it's a choice. Between what though?

I don't understand it being a choice between his gf and I because he and gf were already together. What about status quo?

posted August 31, 2015 04:44 PM            

8 of Pentacles - he sees you as hardworking or someone who won't give up

The Tower - maybe he feels you could break up his relationship?

2 of wands - the relationship is still open...you're not together or he's keeping his options open?

posted September 02, 2015 01:22 PM            

I agree with 8 of pents

The tower, breaking up his relationship? well my take is that if a relationship breaking up/going to break up (by an outsider) that it is meant to happen or on shaky ground to begin with. idk, i'm not actively trying to break up his relationship

posted September 03, 2015 05:49 PM            

I agree with your interpretation of the tower and 2ow together!

posted September 04, 2015 08:34 AM            

1. How he sees himself - as an ambitious, successful fellow
2. How he sees me - as a work colleague
3. His feelings for me or our relationship - no feelings
4. The status of the relationship - no relationship, he is already involved ( 2 of wands)

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I seem to have loved you in numberless forms...

AstroMandala

posted September 04, 2015 06:39 PM            

I appreciate your explanation of the first two cards.....

Oh yeah I've also done other spreads concerning this guy and our relationship

As for 2 of wands....as the status of our relationship? No, We are not together in a "relationship" guess I'm just trying to get a little more from the cards than a yes or no.

I really like ash20 interpretation about the 2 of wands(with/concerning the tower) where she mentions grass being greener. I see lots of symbolism...(Rider Waite Deck) It is a 2 representing duality, choice, union, balance, co-operation. So I can totally see duality of choice with this card, and what action will provide the best result.
The man in the card seems to be deciding what his next move will be....and the wands have sprouting leaves pointing to possibilities....

ETA: Are you asking if I've asked him if he has romantic feelings for me? If so, no I have never asked him. what I know for sure is that he is involved. his saying he would let me know if anything changes could be interpreted as having no feelings....but that's not for sure.(Especially based off the energy that I feel when we are together, which was the reason I started pulling cards for this to begin with).

I totally understand where you mentioned the importance of asking him and knowing his feelings for sure. It just didn't happen that way is all.

posted September 05, 2015 06:34 AM            

And only if it's a yes, you ask what kind of feelings they are.

Also, personally, I don't see why you are thrilled with the "grass is greener" idea; what about the girlfriend and her feelings? Would you like your boyfriend to do that to you? You must understand whatever he does to his girlfriend, in the event of you two being together, will do to you too. Him talking about his relationship with you was unfair towards her, not a good sign about his character, nothing to celebrate here.

Also, your spread questions were a bit weird in the first place: what status of relationship for instance? Since you two are not in a relationship, but he is in one with someone else?

Tower for feelings can mean a simple no. Tower is a basic no card.

What I see here is a man who sees you as a work colleague. 2 of Wands is a man who already has everything, and the 2s are cards for people being in a couple, in general. I think here it means what I said.

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I seem to have loved you in numberless forms...

AstroMandala

posted September 05, 2015 10:57 AM            

I have done other spreads concerning feelings between the guy and I. All spreads that I thought would be helpful. none of what I received from those spreads pointed to a no. I guess if they did then I probably would not have continued doing spreads about the situation. I am following my instinct and energy that I get from being around him and I continue to go with that.

Concerning "the grass is greener" comment I think you have it misunderstood. I never said that it excited me or I was happy about it. What I said was that I liked her interpretation, understood the explanation and added some of my own points.

I made to thread hoping to get some objective information about the cards.

wasn't really coming to the board to get a sermon about how to treat people, how to determine someone's character and "what if this was your boyfriend"...yada It's actually very condescending. Both of your responses actually give me the feeling and energy that you are taking it personally. To assume that you know how I treat people based on little pieces of information that I put in a post is bizarre.
I just don't think that you have enough information besides the information that I've given to make such statements. That's not fair.

I didn't personally come up with the spread myself I did find the spread and I thought that it would be useful. The status question of our relationship... no as I said before we are not in a relationship but that does not mean that we do not relate. Yes, we are not romantically committed (because he is involved ) Relationship is... the way in which two or more concepts, objects, or people are connected, or the state of being connected like having a relationship with friends, family co-workers etc. I chose to look at the status question in that way.

posted September 05, 2015 11:33 AM            

Anyway, despite this observation, I tried to look at the spread objectively and wondered if it really shows feelings from his side too, considering the cards, and thought there's a chance he may not be romantically involved.

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I seem to have loved you in numberless forms...

AstroMandala