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SoaringLeaves
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posted September 14, 2015 08:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SoaringLeaves     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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4. How does {person X} perceive you?
a) Personality

BULL (Wealth, potency, benevolence)--FROG (Sensitivity, Medicine, Hidden beauty and power)--SWAN (Soul, love, beauty) very appropriate

* same explanation for the BULL (part of your true self)
* he sees you almost like a magical creature, with deep sensitivity, and an unknown power. The joy that you bring in his life heals him.
* to him you are the personification of love, grace, and beauty. He might also be enchanted by your artistic qualities.
Summary: you are this ethereal person who, with her love and joy, heals his wounds and enriches his life. I get the feeling that, to him, you are almost surreal.

Physical--we discussed.

5. How do men see you, what is your archetype in their eyes?

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Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:
SL, I think men see me as feminine and maternal ( I didn't expect this part) with two feminine maternal cards, the sow and the goose. Then the eagle is a masculine symbol of personal power and intelligence, and transformation, and with the frog, it shows a transformative side I've been told about, and it suits my Uranus sq ASC and Pallas Lilith there.

Yup, I agree 100%. Plus I think they see in you all the positive qualities of a mother but combined with the courage of lightening-fast decisions of the powerful eagle/explorer and the hidden power (as in, power that they don't understand but know that it's there) of the frog. It's interesting that they do understand the "eagle-part" of your persona, yet don't perceive it as something threatening to themselves (which is what usually men imagine so easily, that everyone is there to challenge them).

Did I miss something? Sorry again for the delay. Please let me know if something is still unclear. And thank you for the reading (which I still didn't get a chance to read, but I'm sure it's wonderful like yourself)!

Good night!

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posted September 14, 2015 09:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SoaringLeaves     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Dear LeeLoo, your reading is amazing. I feel that it fits so well on so many levels. I loved the FOOL there (with my head in the clouds, which is probably true sometimes , but also the one with the fresh ideas).

Goodness forbid that I'm looking for drama (I don't think I ever suffered from that insanity), but I do need action and a certain degree of challenge not to get bored (sports/intellectual challenges are just fine--no need for "mud fights"). But yes, boredom is what kills the Aquarians. Plus I have very much a Type A personality (you probably know that classification)--I have no patience to wait for things to happen, so I go after what I want when that is possible. I probably have to thank in part to my Aries Moon for this feature of mine.

Thank you again! This was a lovely and very enlightening spread.

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posted September 15, 2015 07:50 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for tgem     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yay a new spread! I'm always game I'm willing to exchange with anyone interested!!

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posted September 15, 2015 09:02 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for VacantGazer     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hey Tgem - i can exchange with you if you like but i will get home in a few hrs though. I would like to practice my tarot, if this is ok. You can use whatever cards you wish

Pls dont quote might edit later

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posted September 15, 2015 09:11 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for tgem     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by VacantGazer:
Hey Tgem - i can exchange with you if you like but i will get home in a few hrs though. I would like to practice my tarot, if this is ok. You can use whatever cards you wish

Pls dont quote might edit later


Ok cool NP

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posted September 15, 2015 12:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for VacantGazer     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Tgem - who is person X?(i wont quote)

Pls dont quote my posts might edit later

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posted September 15, 2015 01:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for tgem     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Person X for me is DL, a man. Who is person X for you?

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posted September 15, 2015 01:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for VacantGazer     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

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posted September 15, 2015 03:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for VacantGazer     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi Tgem,

I'm very new to the Tarot(also i dont do reversals) so please take with a pinch of salt


What is your Persona? (the image I project to the world)

9 of Pentacles, 8 of Wands, 6 of Swords

You're very self reliant and ambitious, perhaps like to enjoy time for yourself, very intelligent hard working type. But also alot of fun to be around and adventurous, maybe also a little hard to get to know at times. I think the cards are showing you're a very intellectual type.


What defines your True Self?

The Emperor, Knight of wands, Page of Wands

Very disciplined. You have alot of inner strength and power, maybe sometimes a bit impatient and you may say whats in your head when upset. Quite adventurous and fiery, someone who has alot of potential. But you're also quite youthful, young at heart.


How do people perceive you in general, what is your archetype to them?

9 of Swords, 3 of Wands, 6 of Pentacles
Someone who gets quite anxious about things but you get over it quickly - again you have alot of inner strength, maybe sensitive, very loving and giving person, and also practical and well balanced.


How does X, a certain person, perceives you?

Physical
Knight of Pentacles, Ace of Swords, Knight of Swords

Nice neat appearance, look after yourself and your body. I think of knights as youthful so perhaps he thinks you look younger than your years Swords for me are intellect so maybe you also have that intellectual look about you, but also because it relates to the mind perhaps he thinks of your looks alot.

Personality
5 of Swords, 9 of Wands, 6 of Swords
8 of Wands was upright with i laid out the cards.

Ambitious person, very strong and you don't give up easily. Might be a little argumentative at times , but at the same time fair and impartial. Very strong woman, fiery maybe also has a side that is hard to get to know.

Does any of this resonate ?

please dont quote my posts might edit later

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posted September 15, 2015 03:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for GeminiKarat     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I had so much fun doing that reading. My head is in the clouds. I started in the morning and finally give up. I am not used to 5 hours sleep. Read it as a fun story:

1. What defines your True Self?
The Hermit– Ace of of swords - Ace of cups
With these cards I can see the passion for life and the love, a very strong nature that wants to be a loner from time to time.

2. What is your Persona? (the image I project to the world)
The Wheel of Fortune- Three of Wands - Three of Pentacles
The first thing that came up to my mind is: “You have a Yod!” Things turn upside down and you are the person that will and can lead people to the light. That everybody sees you as an artist and that is the way you express it is no new thing .

3. How do people perceive you in general, what is your archetype to them?
a)Personality
Page of Cups- Seven of Pentacles - Four of Cups
I interpreted these cards that you may have a childlike behavior, but you are a hard working woman.

b) Physically
King of Wands- Four of Pentacles - The High Priestess
I do not know how to interpret these cards. Maybe you have red hair with a lot of arguments right underneath the head.

4. How does the person – who kisses the ground you walk - perceive you?
a)Personality

Ace of of swords - Ace of cups - Nine of Wands
Hey! I did not copy and paste the cards of your true self. I always lay them down and move them in circles until I hear a stop.


b) Physically
The Hanged Man - Seven of Swords - Five of Cups
I have no idea.

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posted September 15, 2015 03:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for GeminiKarat     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:
GK,

SPREAD
each row has 2 or 3 cards, at your choice (enough to understand and give the answer)

What is your Persona? (the image I project to the world)

4 of cups 4 of pentacles knight of pentacles fool

are you projecting a materialistic persona or maybe are forced to take care of material things when all you want to do is to be free? On the good side, practical and extremely hard-working, reliable and useful. Picky and hard to please too. A dreamer sometimes, head in the clouds, original and with great sense of humor, wild and even childish at times, in a good way. Antagonistic cards going together.
Number 4: you must work very hard and always offer your help? be careful not to be taken advantage of. You are seen as someone able to change their environment through what they do, in a tangible way.

What defines your True Self?

8 of wands 4 of pentacles 9 of pentacles

so 4 of pentacles is deep nature for you

maintaining control
wanting to be in charge
denying weakness
directing
demanding compliance
insisting on your own way
imposing structure
setting limits and rules
creating order

9 of pentacles is a card of success in the 2nd part of life; refinement, femininity, and maternity. But also strong independence and fierce self-mastery.

You have a passionate nature that needs to express itself through tangible things, even earth and everything coming out of it, such as gardening. You are a strong tangible creator.

There is also strong need for control and self-control and the ability to attain those.

4 of pentacles could also be a block in need of being overcome, maybe with the Fool.

These are cards for a Builder of one's destiny and things in their environment.

How do people perceive you in general, what is your archetype to them?

Emperor 6 of Pentacles Hermit

Marching to the beat of your own drum. Independent, stubborn, powerful and even authoritative. Generous and fair. Always ready to help and be supportive again Knowledgeable, wise and erudite. Someone who is better as a boss than an employee. Someone with their own rules, walking a very personal path, but also not forgetting about the others on her way. Someone with resources, knowledge and power, exchanging and sharing them.


How men see you, as a female archetype

2 of pentacles queen of cups 4 of wands
they see you as this queen, are you blond? I think 2 of pentacles for a female archetype brings a touch of: being able to play someone on her fingers hehe quite versatile as a woman, she is perceived. but the queen of cups is emotional, intuitive, caring, sometimes a bit aloof and head in the clouds, creative. Your sociable firey maverick side is clearly pictured in the 4 of wands. A woman of the world, but also someone inspiring the hearth, the warmth of the home to men. It must be easy for them to approach you, with these cards 4 of wands also makes someone a great host and a fascinating personality, the one everyone listens to when they speak in public, maybe a good story teller and actress; it's a charisma card which probably brings a lot of suitors to you.



Thank you very much for the reading! I will read it tomorrow!

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posted September 15, 2015 04:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for tgem     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
OMG I'm soooo mad!!! I just did your whole spread and it deleted!!!! UGH!!!!

Ok I was just doing how X perceives you:
Key-mountain-rider
He finds you attractive, social, maybe a bit withdrawn or aloof at times but it seems he feels a bit of a fated connection with you.
Personality:
Flowers-clover-garden
WOW!!!!! Awesome cards!! He thinks very highly of you! You're social, optimistic, friendly, charming etc.
I'll re-draw the others in a bit...when I've calmed down. I'll be back with your 1st half.

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posted September 15, 2015 04:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for tgem     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thank you for mine VG..it resonates a lot

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posted September 15, 2015 04:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for VacantGazer     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Awwww LOL no worries Tgem, take your time it happens to me too, actually sometimes it helps to click the go back button on the browser.

Thank you for your spread, yes he himself has told me a couple of times when im being a bit withdrawn.

pls dont quote might edit later

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posted September 15, 2015 04:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LeeLoo2014     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Awwww SoaringLeaves, thank you so much for your effort! Those animals are full of meanings and there's a lot to think about. I am thinking about painting them maybe I will get in touch with myself and bring them out better.

Very interesting observation about those feminine animals and the Eagle. I am glad if people can finally see me and when they will. With Fox, I know I've hidden myself deliberately for a while, I had to. And I have an interception in 1st/7th, it's part of my destiny to have this hidden side.

I appreciate your reading so much!

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posted September 15, 2015 04:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for tgem     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Leeloo, I'm finishing up VG's..interested in exchanging when I'm done?

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posted September 15, 2015 04:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for tgem     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
@VG ok your persona: fish-ring-fox
Ok this goes with what I pulled earlier. You are a bit on the conservative side..very smart/clever and like to be both emotionally and financially secure and safe. You are family-oriented as well, responsible and ambitious.

BRB with more..

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posted September 15, 2015 04:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for tgem     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
What defines your true self VG: cross-woman-stork
Pulled man on woman
Did you come from a traditional religious family? I feel your family (mom and dad)and your moral and values growing up has a lot to do with your persona today. But I also see this part of you that craves change, unconventionality. A whole inner side to you (your soul) has a scorpionic transformative aspect that needs to be accessed.

How do people view you: clover-scythe-garden
People see you as optimistic, social and fun..I think the scythe in there can mean you can be a little cutting..do you have a Mercury/Mars aspecct or Mercury in Aries? Again, I see the aloofness and tendency to be withdrawn at certain times as well. But also vEry practical and logical

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posted September 15, 2015 04:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LeeLoo2014     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted September 15, 2015 04:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LeeLoo2014     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by GeminiKarat:
I had so much fun doing that reading. My head is in the clouds. I started in the morning and finally give up. I am not used to 5 hours sleep. Read it as a fun story:

[b]1. What defines your True Self?
The Hermit– Ace of of swords - Ace of cups
With these cards I can see the passion for life and the love, a very strong nature that wants to be a loner from time to time.

2. What is your Persona? (the image I project to the world)
The Wheel of Fortune- Three of Wands - Three of Pentacles
The first thing that came up to my mind is: “You have a Yod!” Things turn upside down and you are the person that will and can lead people to the light. That everybody sees you as an artist and that is the way you express it is no new thing .

3. How do people perceive you in general, what is your archetype to them?
a)Personality
Page of Cups- Seven of Pentacles - Four of Cups
I interpreted these cards that you may have a childlike behavior, but you are a hard working woman.

b) Physically
King of Wands- Four of Pentacles - The High Priestess
I do not know how to interpret these cards. Maybe you have red hair with a lot of arguments right underneath the head.

4. How does the person – who kisses the ground you walk - perceive you?
a)Personality

Ace of of swords - Ace of cups - Nine of Wands
Hey! I did not copy and paste the cards of your true self. I always lay them down and move them in circles until I hear a stop.


b) Physically
The Hanged Man - Seven of Swords - Five of Cups
I have no idea. [/B]


Thank you, GK

I think VenusdiSirius (where is she?? ) draw the Hermit as my personality too, some time ago, as being a definitory card. How interesting we are so many Hermits here! For me, as a Virgo, is a double hit.

I think your string shows my persona is very chameleonic, I have to confess this is true.

I think the Page of cups is not necessarily childish, it could be someone loving and giving. I hope I am as such.

Physical portrait with King of Wands 4 of pentacles HP
As the feminine card here, probably HP prevails for the way I am seen. As it happens, I have a very byzantine physique (face and body too, if you look at it from this POV)

4 of pentacles is a bit difficult to read in my case. I am not massive or square and I don't think my appearance shows defensiveness...it's a bit baffling, I need to think about that one

The King and Queen of wands usually show someone with charm and charisma, or at least noticeable, no matter the features. Someone standing out.

I am glad to see R sees me as I am, personality wise. 9 of wands: maybe he is also aware of my wounds and ho much I've fought so far.

The cards for the physical impression in his case are quite difficult to read. I know he likes how I look, so they must have a different meaning. perhaps as a whole show someone changing appearance, with many faces and looks, which is one of the things I was told to do; the hanged man forces you to see people in a new light; it could also point to a glowing face or to him thinking or imagining my looks a lot (as a major Neptunian, reverie card); it may show someone with unusual physique or something "sanctified", angelic and otherworldy, at least in his eyes. 7 of swords could be someone with flexible body and very gracious or vivacious in movements; he has mentioned being fascinated by my hands when I work and my dancing; 5 of cups maybe shows total mystery; it's a cloaked figure one cannot see the face of; perhaps it's a symbol of someone changing appearance and not showing their true face of being shrouded by a veil of mystery. Maybe he sees me as a mysterious, elusive woman. It fits SL's cards.

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posted September 15, 2015 06:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SoaringLeaves     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi LeeLoo! The Grim Reaper ate my first post, but I was just saying you're welcome and good luck with your esoteric art project.

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posted September 15, 2015 06:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LeeLoo2014     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thank you, SL Yeah, I tried to prevent that, but still it happened

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posted September 15, 2015 06:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for tgem     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'm confused..I think this thread is eating posts. Leeloo did you see my offer?

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posted September 15, 2015 06:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LeeLoo2014     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Tgem, it's too late for me to do a spread now, but I will try to do it, probably tomorrow

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posted September 15, 2015 07:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for tgem     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ok I'll work on yours too

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