posted September 14, 2015 01:52 PM            

PERSONA - a term coined by Jung in psychology, but previously used

A persona (plural personae or personas), in the word's everyday usage, is a social role or a character played by an actor. The word is derived from Latin, where it originally referred to a theatrical mask.[1] The Latin word probably derived from the Etruscan word "phersu", with the same meaning, and that from the Greek πρόσωπον (prosōpon). Its meaning in the latter Roman period changed to indicate a "character" of a theatrical performance or court of law,[citation needed] when it became apparent that different individuals could assume the same role, and legal attributes such as rights, powers, and duties followed the role. The same individuals as actors could play different roles, each with its own legal attributes, sometimes even in the same court appearance. According to other sources, which also admit that the origin of the term is not completely clear, persona could possible be related to the latin verb per-sonare, literally: sounding through, with an obvious link to the above-mentioned theatrical mask.

In literature the term has become associated with the work of two modern poets, Ezra Pound and T.S. Eliot, and the writer Luigi Pirandello. They understood the term slightly differently and derived its use and meaning from different traditions. Eliot had taken over and developed Laforgue's ironic "I", whereas Pound worked from Robert Browning's dramatic monologues.

The persona is also the mask or appearance one presents to the world.[15] It may appear in dreams under various guises (see Carl Jung

The persona, for Swiss psychiatrist Carl Jung, was the social face the individual presented to the world—"a kind of mask, designed on the one hand to make a definite impression upon others, and on the other to conceal the true nature of the individual".[1]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Persona_%28psychology%29

Of course, our Persona is usually not a conscious effort.

SPREAD
each row has 2 or 3 cards, at your choice (enough to understand and give the answer)

What is your Persona? (the image I project to the world)

What defines your True Self?

How do people perceive you in general, what is your archetype to them?

How does X, a certain person, perceives you?

Physical
3 cards

Personality
3 cards

------------------
I seem to have loved you in numberless forms...

AstroMandala

posted September 14, 2015 02:40 PM            

I'll do this reading for you tonight, LeeLoo. Do you have someone in mind for "person x?" No need to tell me who he/she is, just think of someone. Do you prefer Tarot or the Druid Oracle?

posted September 14, 2015 03:09 PM            

You are right, and I thought about it; different people view us differently. But with this part of the spread, I thought it would be interesting to see if there is a common factor in how people perceive us, that's why I called it the "archetype" which is a good description for this common factor.

Let's think of some movies stars, to understand how this works, especially those from the Golden Ages of cinema: Rudolf Valentino, Marlyn Monroe, Greta Garbo, Laurel and Hardy, Buster Keaton, Charlie Chaplin, and many actors who play a specific role, a specific archetype: one contemporary example would be Jim Carrey and many comedians actually. Their Persona (projected archetype) is often constructed; ours isn't, most times. But it is interesting to see if there is such an archetype for us, in the eyes of most people: examples: a mystery lady, the wallflower, the heart of the party, the hottie, etc.

There is an additional string here, or an alternative one, if interested: what is your archetype in the eyes of the opposite sex?

------------------
I seem to have loved you in numberless forms...

AstroMandala

posted September 14, 2015 03:27 PM            

I was thinking exactly at celebrities! Not only the type of movies they played in, but the masquerade they have to put on for the media. Do you remember when Kristen Stewart had to apologize for being honest and saying that the media attention makes her feel raped? Poor girl and the ones like her--forced to live in a world of lies because they are thrashed when whey tell the truth!

posted September 14, 2015 03:58 PM            

1. What defines your True Self?
(This is your old reading
SALMON
BOAR
BULL

2. What is your Persona? (the image I project to the world)
BULL
Keywords: Wealth, potency, benevolence
Meaning: Tarbh mediates the influences of Taranis, the Jupiter-like God of the Druids, whose beneficence and expansiveness bring opportunity for a rich and abundant life. The bull is a symbol of wealth, and it is auspicious to draw this card when considering financial matters. But, remember that the ancient ones understood that true wealth is found in the heart and soul first, and only then in the material world. The bull represents fertility, potency, abundance, and prosperity, things that can sometimes take a while to achieve. If your goals require you to work steadfastly in trying circumstances for a considerable period of time, the bull will help you to succeed without becoming drained and depressed.

EAGLE
Keywords: Intelligence, renewal, courage
Meaning: Iolair helps you to see your life in the wider context, enabling you to make decisions and chart your goals with clarity and objectivity. The eagle is a powerful ally; it is courageous and strong, drawing its power from the sun. If you will allow the eagle to work for you, it will bring you a sense of purpose and the courage to see this through, enabling you to venture into fresh territory with confidence. It will allow you to detach yourself from everyday worries and cares, and will enable you to grasp the subtle concepts. The eagle, when accepted, will also show you how to renew and rejuvenate yourself, by demonstrating the art of pluging--at just the right moment--into the lake of the heart.

FOX
Keywords: Diplomacy, cunning, wildness
Meaning: Sionnach is a graceful creature who typifies the beauty and harmony of the natural world. Working with the power of the fox, you will know when to come out into the open and be counted, and when to remain silent. With others you will be able to be diplomatic--one of the attributes of the fox is being "strong in council." However take care when working with fox power, not to let skill and diplomacy become dishonesty or slyness. Remaining silent, or becoming invisible so as to watch the unfolding drama, is an asset that can bring its own special culpability, if not tempered with wisdom.

posted September 14, 2015 04:07 PM            

posting it here:

SL,

SPREAD
each row has 2 or 3 cards, at your choice (enough to understand and give the answer)

What is your Persona? (the image I project to the world)

8 of sw Temperance Tower

well, well, look at that! anyone an aqua Sun around?

The image you project, either you are doing it on purpose of not is: spiritual person, deep thinker, reserved, even mysterious and hidden; sometimes maybe with a hint of depression or solitude; in need of rescue, in need of an angel. Angelic physical appearance or aura. Beautiful and even ethereal. Feminine, very feminine in a soft, vulnerable, angelic way. BUT at the same time, unpredictable, with strong shocking value. You also probably make a strong impression on people, more than you imagine, with that 8 of sw.
With that as the 1st card, I can tell you are not very aware of how people see you.

What defines your True Self?

Lovers Tower King of Wands

hahahaha nice. at least one card from your true self is in your persona. you are genuinely shocking and avantgarde. you are here to smash some barriers. Uranian for real.
Then we see you are everything the Lovers card is: romance oriented, loving, dramatic, perhaps indecisive at times, big heart, holding a romantic dream (by this I mean high ideals). your Animus is seen here, the King of Wands, a wise leader, a firey person, an uncompromising nature. There is an interesting combination of the card of compromise and adaptation (and we see this in Temperance as well, majestic cards) and the Tower and the King, two uncompromising cards.

Ability to regenerate and the need to experience "big things" with these two cards. You need action and drama to feel alive.

How do people perceive you in general, what is your archetype to them?

Sun + World

Wow! The lady in the World card. Beautiful and accomplished. A rising star. being harmoniously gifted: with looks, brains, talents etc. your charisma is very strong. There is something innocent about you too. You are seen as a bright child, a luminous presence. Very giving too.

How do men see you, what is your archetype in their eyes?

Fool 9 of Cups 2 of pentacles 9 of pentacles

Elegant, refined, beautiful and many want you. You are a pleasure to look at. Many would go crazy for you or are You can drive men off the edge hehe. They also see you as skilled and sometimes slippery. Gracious and there is something Gemini in your looks, something airy. But also a deep taste of earth. They see you as very good-looking, but also proficient in what you do; men you work for definitely see you as an asset. Quite a catch!

How does X, a certain person, perceives you?

Physical
3 cards

ace of wands 3 of pentacles page of wands ace of cups

your physique definitely turns him on, but there is also the ace of cups here, so love and emotion of a high level, although there is something continuously fresh about it. was this love at first sight? physically, you always surprise him, so it seems. he may see you as a bit too young maybe? getting finer with age with the 3 of pentacles. And the aura of mystery and masterpiece in this card, a card for being physically exquisite. It's a cathedral after all. there is something exotic and hard to grasp about it, like a continuous intrigue. You are a hottie to him, no doubt you turn him on big time, over and over again.

Personality
3 cards

page of pentacles hermit 2 of pentacles 6 of wands

posted September 14, 2015 04:21 PM            

3. How do people perceive you in general, what is your archetype to them?

SOW
Keywords: Generosity, nourishment, discovery.
Meaning: Muc, with her large litters, symbolizes abundance and fertility. Feeling connected to the love of the Goddess for all her creatures, you are able to give freely, knowing that, in turn, you are nourished and sustained by her. You can open yourself to the abundance that exists throughout nature, knowing that life perpetually renews itself and that you need not worry about ever being disconnected from her. Allow yourself to feast on life, to enjoy ts beauties, and its sensual delights. The Goddess is generous, giving to all and renewing all.

WATER DRAGON
Keywords: Passion, depth, connection
Meaning: Draig-uisge brings that which is hidden into the light of day. (SL's note: I think this is a clear card indication your divination skill.) Memories and wishes, which may have long lain forgotten or represented in the Unconsciousness, may emerge to frighten or overwhelm you with their apparent negativity or destructiveness. Facing these experiences with compassion and courage will, in the end, bring you to an experience of a greater depth of soul and a greater sense of connectedness to all life. Although you may at time feel overwhelmed with emotions, with time you will be able to achieve a sense of balance and stability, as these strong feelings are integrated in your consciousness.

RAVEN This card also fell out of the deck as I shuffled the cards for this question.
Keywords: Healing, Initiation, Protection
Meaning: Bran offers initiation, protection and the gift of prophecy. The initiation, in practice, may be as formal as undergoing an initiation ceremony, aor as informal as being initiated into a new profession. It marks the death of one thing and the birth of another. The power of the raven can also bring you the very deepest form of healing, which is achieved through a process known as "the resolution of the opposites," making it possible for you to resolve conflicts that have long lain buried in your unconsciousness or in your past.

posted September 14, 2015 04:26 PM            

Did we say that we have a pull for the opposite sex? I missed that, so you'll have to give me a tad longer--my fingers stumble in each other.

posted September 14, 2015 04:54 PM            

4. How does {person X} perceive you?
a) Personality

BULL AGAIN! I won't copy the meaning anymore, but this is a pretty strong signal that you project this image (which also happens to be part of your true self). I believe it's your enterprising spirit and everything that it entails.

FROG
Keywords: Sensitivity, Medicine, Hidden beauty and power
Meaning: Losgann unites the elements of water and earth, bringing joy, delight and healing in its singing and hopping, and leading you to the sacred spring from which you may be refreshed and renewed. A cold-blooded creature leaving half on the land and half in the water, the frog posses and extremely sensitive skin, considered magical by shamans. A companion of the rain spirits, the frog can help you develop your sensitivity to others, to healing and to sound through your skin, your whole body, and aura. Nothing is what appears to be and life is more fun that you first supposed. There is a hidden beauty and a hidden power in all nature and, as you open yourself to this, you'll feel close to the Goddess and close to both the earth and the water. Look for the beauty and the magic behind appearances.

SWAN
Keywords: Soul, love, beauty
Meaning: Eala brings us the qualities of soul--of love and depth, grace and beauty. Being associated with the Druid festival of Samhuinn, the swan is also a bird of the threshold and represents that part of us which can travel into the Outherworld. Drawing this card may indicate that you will receive inspiration from the Outherworld or that love is entering into your life. It is auspicious to draw this card is you are preparing to write a song or a poem, for the swan's skin and feathers were used to make the bard's ceremonial cloak, the tugen.

b) Physically
This was tricky with these cards, so I'll show you the pictures too, though there seems to be a clear message:
BEE, BLACKBIRD

Both are small and very energetic, one buzzing up and down all day long, the other flying around. So he perceives you as being petite and dynamic, with the physical characteristic of the air signs. Both creatures are watching towards the sky, so perhaps that's an indication that you are always carrying yourself with the chin high.

posted September 14, 2015 05:11 PM            

bee is a bit intriguing for physical...maybe it gives the impression of "buzzing" and shiny, and also an hourglass figure maybe? which is mine, I confess I don't understand these cards for physical very well.

posted September 14, 2015 05:26 PM            

5. How do men see you, what is your archetype in their eyes?

FROG fell off as I shuffled the deck. Its meaning is at #4.

Spread:
SOW -- meaning at #3

GOOSE
Keywords: Vigilance, parenthood, productive power
Meaning: Gèadh may indicate that you are ready to take on the responsibilities of raising a family, or of committing yourself to a long-term partnership. Gèadh brings creative and productive power, and allows you to open to this power, secure in the knowledge that your relationship, family or working partnership will provide a stable environment to act as a crucible for your creativity. The goose, with its strong attachment to its family and the ability to fly extraordinarily high from one continent to another, shows us that it is possible to be both grounded and spiritual in our daily lives.

EAGLE -- see meaning at #2

###

Please let me know if I miss any part of the spread. It's really not a problem at all to type them--I was planning to do it anyways. Yes, I was a bit concerned how to interpret the physical cards (there was a typo which listed both as "personality"). Are you a singer?! I didn't know--I though you work with art (i.e. paintings, sculpture). If that's the case, it may be that your voice has become for you almost a physical attribute, more important that your hair color or whatnot. The bee is very diaphanous, so maybe he perceives you as physically delicate. (For instance, I'm tall, yet everyone refers to me as being petite, because I have a very small bone structure.)

Do you have any question about the interpretation?

posted September 14, 2015 05:27 PM            

quote:

---

Originally posted by GeminiKarat:
Cool one! I have always wondered why people confuse me with somebody else. It is to late for me today to answer your persona chart. I can do your reading tomorrow.
Do you want me to do it with runes or tarot?

---

Hi I would love Tarot, maybe it's easier for descriptions. I will do yours tonight.

------------------
I seem to have loved you in numberless forms...

AstroMandala

posted September 14, 2015 05:44 PM            

quote:

---

Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:
What is your Persona? (the image I project to the world)

8 of sw Temperance Tower

well, well, look at that! anyone an aqua Sun around?

The image you project, either you are doing it on purpose of not is: spiritual person, deep thinker, reserved, even mysterious and hidden; sometimes maybe with a hint of depression or solitude; in need of rescue, in need of an angel. Angelic physical appearance or aura. Beautiful and even ethereal. Feminine, very feminine in a soft, vulnerable, angelic way. BUT at the same time, unpredictable, with strong shocking value. You also probably make a strong impression on people, more than you imagine, with that 8 of sw.

---

When I saw these cards I was like, "Do I project the image of a loser?" Which I'm perfectly ready to accept, if that's the case. No, I have no idea what people see in me. On the other hand, I'm completely amazed when in Astro 2.0 some people bash the Aquarians as if they are the sum of all evil in the world, a ball of duplicity, cold-heartness, and slutness. It's quite funny actually, because I don't know a single Aquarian who doesn't want to be friend with the entire world. But I digress. I'm guessing with the Tower, I'm projecting an image of destroyer of sand-castles, which is true.

LeeLoo, I have to stop here for the moment. My sister just came and I need to run away with an errand. I'll try to put in plain words the Druid interpretations when I return. Sorry for this.

posted September 14, 2015 06:04 PM            

SPREAD
each row has 2 or 3 cards, at your choice (enough to understand and give the answer)

What is your Persona? (the image I project to the world)

4 of cups 4 of pentacles knight of pentacles fool

are you projecting a materialistic persona or maybe are forced to take care of material things when all you want to do is to be free? On the good side, practical and extremely hard-working, reliable and useful. Picky and hard to please too. A dreamer sometimes, head in the clouds, original and with great sense of humor, wild and even childish at times, in a good way. Antagonistic cards going together.
Number 4: you must work very hard and always offer your help? be careful not to be taken advantage of. You are seen as someone able to change their environment through what they do, in a tangible way.

What defines your True Self?

8 of wands 4 of pentacles 9 of pentacles

so 4 of pentacles is deep nature for you

maintaining control
wanting to be in charge
denying weakness
directing
demanding compliance
insisting on your own way
imposing structure
setting limits and rules
creating order

9 of pentacles is a card of success in the 2nd part of life; refinement, femininity, and maternity. But also strong independence and fierce self-mastery.

You have a passionate nature that needs to express itself through tangible things, even earth and everything coming out of it, such as gardening. You are a strong tangible creator.

There is also strong need for control and self-control and the ability to attain those.

4 of pentacles could also be a block in need of being overcome, maybe with the Fool.

These are cards for a Builder of one's destiny and things in their environment.

How do people perceive you in general, what is your archetype to them?

Emperor 6 of Pentacles Hermit

Marching to the beat of your own drum. Independent, stubborn, powerful and even authoritative. Generous and fair. Always ready to help and be supportive again Knowledgeable, wise and erudite. Someone who is better as a boss than an employee. Someone with their own rules, walking a very personal path, but also not forgetting about the others on her way. Someone with resources, knowledge and power, exchanging and sharing them.

How men see you, as a female archetype

2 of pentacles queen of cups 4 of wands
they see you as this queen, are you blond? I think 2 of pentacles for a female archetype brings a touch of: being able to play someone on her fingers hehe quite versatile as a woman, she is perceived. but the queen of cups is emotional, intuitive, caring, sometimes a bit aloof and head in the clouds, creative. Your sociable firey maverick side is clearly pictured in the 4 of wands. A woman of the world, but also someone inspiring the hearth, the warmth of the home to men. It must be easy for them to approach you, with these cards 4 of wands also makes someone a great host and a fascinating personality, the one everyone listens to when they speak in public, maybe a good story teller and actress; it's a charisma card which probably brings a lot of suitors to you.

posted September 14, 2015 08:22 PM            

So sorry for this--I hate to make people wait for me, but I just returned. OK, so the meanings have to be read in more "applied" terms. With the BULL appearing 3 times, those are probably one of the most easily identifiable qualities you have (though, to be honest, I haven't had much chance to see you in this role).

1. What defines your True Self?
SALMON (Wisdom, inspiration, rejuvenation )--BOAR (The warrior spirit, leadership, direction)--BULL (Wealth, potency, benevolence)

* I interpret the salmon as the ability to tap through your psychic abilities into the collective consciousness, the sea of present and past emotions of humanity. It is the understanding of how the Universe works that gives you the open minded attitude of a youthful spirit. You draw strength from the knowledge of the past.
* With the boar you have the vision and leadership qualities to lead people, be that on their spiritual growth or in real life.
* the bull: you have an the entrepreneurial spirit, have the known-how to bring wealth into the world (emotional too, not only material). Through hard work, you enrich the world around you (and probably have the potential to earn a living by doing it). Actually, now thy I'm writing, I just realized that the BULL is probably the Capricorn... This really fits!
So basically, you have the psychic abilities to find knowledge, the leadership qualities to make the best of that knowledge, and you are going it in a way that brings wealth into the world (and to you personally).

2. What is your Persona? (the image I project to the world)
BULL (Wealth, potency, benevolence), EAGLE (Intelligence, renewal, courage), FOX Diplomacy, cunning, wildness)

* the bull: you have an the entrepreneurial spirit, have the known-how to bring wealth into the world (emotional too, not only material). Through hard work, you enrich the world around you (and probably have the potential to earn a living by doing it).
* The fox marks you as someone who masters diplomacy (great quality for business), but you should think in more general terms--you know how to speak to people without offending them, you know how to get ahead not with the sword, but with a silver tongue. You are a great counselor as well.
* The eagle gives you the ability to make brave and unexpected but wise choices, and venture into fresh territory with confidence. You are the metaphorical explorer who dares to go to uncharted territory and succeeds despite the terrible obstacles.
Summary: You have the entrepreneurial spirit, the ability to speak people into doing anything you want and the courage to dare the audacious.

(Fee free to ask any questions, if something is still not clear.)

3. How do people perceive you in general, what is your archetype to them?
SOW (Generosity, nourishment, discovery--WATER DRAGON(Passion, depth, connection)--RAVEN (Healing, Initiation, Protection).
* the sow is the animal of generosity. You always share your time and wealth with the ones around you
* this dragon (there are 4 of them) means that you are the one who brings the esoteric knowledge to the light. It could also mean that you bring secrets to light (it is the detective work, be that physical or spiritual). Whether you know it all not, you are a very powerful psychic, connected to all humans around you. You can probably read people without even using the cards.
* the raven is the prophet. If the water dragon uncovered the past, the raven sees into the future. You are the initiate into everything that esoteric.
Summary: the psychic and the prophet rolled into one who is generous with her gifts.