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Enneline
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posted November 08, 2015 08:44 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Enneline     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I asked 2 times how the refugees crisis will develop in Germany. I think the spreads were good, like: Anchor, ship, rider, moon and sun.
Or are they just stating that more will come?

Also, I asked about the integration and got book Lilie and woman and Garden and house


What do you guys think?

Also, your spreads would be highly welcome


Thanks in advance


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GeminiKarat
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posted November 08, 2015 10:15 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for GeminiKarat     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Enneline:
Or are they just stating that more will come?

I will second that, because of the the things I have heard. They are just rumors .

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Enneline
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posted November 08, 2015 10:30 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Enneline     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by GeminiKarat:
I will second that, because of the the things I have heard. They are just rumors .


yes, more will come as long as they see no opportunities to stay in their countries

but what about the integration? The far more important thing....

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GeminiKarat
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posted November 08, 2015 10:47 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for GeminiKarat     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
No comment. Let the cards reveal the truth.

Apart from that:

Do you now a spread to find out the truth on an individual base?

e.g. The truth about......

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Enneline
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posted November 08, 2015 10:56 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Enneline     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by GeminiKarat:
No comment. Let the cards reveal the truth.

Apart from that:

Do you now a spread to find out the truth on an individual base?

e.g. The truth about......


Darling, i did not ask about your opinion but the interpretation of the spread i did for integration

No, sorry, don't know

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GeminiKarat
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posted November 08, 2015 11:01 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for GeminiKarat     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
. O.k. Thank you very much!

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posted November 08, 2015 11:14 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for VenusDiSirius     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yes, I think that they will keep on coming.

Rider = the arrival
Anchor + Sun = safe, welcome harbour
Ship + Moon = uncertain, troubled journey

Integration seems hard - the combination speaks of homeland (garden + house = native, home country; lilies + woman = mother)

ETA - They will remain among their compatriots, not integrating... Very much.

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LeeLoo2014
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posted November 08, 2015 11:27 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for LeeLoo2014     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
They will arrive continuously, day and night, (moon and sun) possibly until January. The integration will be successful, smooth, rather fast, beginning with a program probably starting in spring. This program may be lead or proposed by an experienced lady, I guess it could even be Angela. I am sure the head of the program will be a woman though, another, of course.

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I seem to have loved you in numberless forms...

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Enneline
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posted November 08, 2015 11:56 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Enneline     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
thank you both!

i dearly hope that LeeLoo is right since I want a peaceful life here

Tarot also says that all will be well- apart from some attacks and some right wing guys and i see a group being desperated- the government insists on sending people from East Europe back and some have already stated that they rather committ suicide than going back...

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posted November 08, 2015 12:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I hope those cards are right, I am a bit more pessimistic about the "right wing guys" though.

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posted November 08, 2015 12:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Enneline     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
I hope those cards are right, I am a bit more pessimistic about the "right wing guys" though.


me too
they are now having a "great" time to race against any refugees and foreigners

i don't think that many Germans will vote for them due to real belief but due the hope that they will bring more "structure" into that crisis

Ceri, what cards do you get?

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posted November 08, 2015 12:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for VenusDiSirius     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Enneline:
the government insists on sending people from East Europe back and some have already stated that they rather committ suicide than going back...

As well as they should come back - They jeopardise the Shengen and are trying to capitalise on someone else's misfortune. The German government is right to do so, trust me.

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posted November 08, 2015 12:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Enneline     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
i know that they have no right to gain the status of an asylum seeker- nonetheless i do feel sorry for them. Some have nothing to eat there, they don't know how to survive the very next day....

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posted November 08, 2015 12:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for VenusDiSirius     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Enneline:
i know that they have no right to gain the status of an asylum seeker- nonetheless i do feel sorry for them. Some have nothing to eat there, they don't know how to survive the very next day....

Saturn in Sag, baby.

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posted November 09, 2015 01:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Enneline,

unfortunately I share your asessment of the situation. It`s what I fear too and it all seems too creepily familiar from the past.

the cards I am getting for how this will develop (esp. in terms of integration)

Scythe - Tower - Child - Book - Stork

It might be that this reflect my own situation at school though, as a lot of children are coming here (have since september) and need to be taught/ educated and as far as I can tell really try to which is what I feel is the last part of the spread about. Teaching (book) children (child) or children (child) who are learning the language (book) will bring a change and improvement (stork).

The first two cards however I see as the shock of the development that has pretty much overrun us all and esp. our government and yes, cuts (Scythe) our state (tower) into two parts. Nevertheless with the STork as the last card I hope for improvement even if it may take a bit.

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posted November 09, 2015 01:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I asked about the change symbolized by the STORK

ROAD - WOMAN - HEART

it`s decision making time, and well I can`t really NOT think about the fact that our chancellor is a woman with that spread.

Was also asking what is going to become of these right wing factions, and got

CLOUDS - LETTER - RING


I fear they will go round and round and round in their shady ways and will not stop spouting their ignorance.


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Enneline
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posted November 10, 2015 10:58 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Enneline     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
Enneline,

unfortunately I share your asessment of the situation. It`s what I fear too and it all seems too creepily familiar from the past.

the cards I am getting for how this will develop (esp. in terms of integration)

Scythe - Tower - Child - Book - Stork

It might be that this reflect my own situation at school though, as a lot of children are coming here (have since september) and need to be taught/ educated and as far as I can tell really try to which is what I feel is the last part of the spread about. Teaching (book) children (child) or children (child) who are learning the language (book) will bring a change and improvement (stork).

The first two cards however I see as the shock of the development that has pretty much overrun us all and esp. our government and yes, cuts (Scythe) our state (tower) into two parts. Nevertheless with the STork as the last card I hope for improvement even if it may take a bit.


thank you sooo much

oh yes, the scythe and the tower are anything but lovely cards and i agree with you on the interp. and have you heard the latest news? Dublin is in the news...

the child could also mean something new, the book a secret...hmmm


I asked how the refugee crisis will develop from now until next year:
lovers empress stars wheel of fortune and 10 of wands -> it will be not that bad and a lot of work

Integration: knight of wands, wheel of fort., death, 7 of pents and 9 of wands
-> yeah, something will change
Hopefully, don't wanna see ghettos and rising frustration on both sides thereof

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Enneline
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posted November 10, 2015 11:01 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Enneline     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
I asked about the change symbolized by the STORK

ROAD - WOMAN - HEART

it`s decision making time, and well I can`t really NOT think about the fact that our chancellor is a woman with that spread.

Was also asking what is going to become of these right wing factions, and got

CLOUDS - LETTER - RING


I fear they will go round and round and round in their shady ways and will not stop spouting their ignorance.


oh, this gives hope (first spread of course )

oh! the ring means that they are going to have seats in the parlament maybe Brown pestilence...

Tarot says: hanged man 7 of pents and 3 of swords and hermit and 10 of pents
Unfortunately 10 of pents is at the end. F*ck but the rest says that they won't have that much power, i think...


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