posted January 23, 2016 10:56 AM            

Let's post aspects/configurations of your chart and this time Tarot will clarify: what is the highest potential of this aspect/configuration? and what the biggest danger?

I think this works best with exchanges.

Who is game?

posted January 23, 2016 01:56 PM            

highest possible manifestation of that wonderful creative, intense aspect?

Ace of Pentacles - Page of Swords - Fool
With that you can manifest and more so materialize whatever you want or think of. Your mind is sharp and acute, as is your tongue and verbal skills, and if making a decision you will not stick around and let yourself get dragged into the past, but will venture and move forwards, and with it comes the promise of a new beginning each time, being made possible by both, a strong intellect and mental independance and also a great groundedness and being well anchored in "real life".

Danger
Page of Wands - Judgement - 2 of swords

In your enthusiasm for embracing the new and being creative and passionate, you might not always judge situations right, sometimes you might either not see the consequences or implications or you will not want to make a decision.

It seems that the moving forwards is only possible IF you make the decision, mentally, but if you resist that decision-making-process, I suppose you will get stuck, maybe even in some sort of status quo (I pulled a clarifier as to what happens fi you don`t make that decision and pulled King of Pentacles).

My question would be concerning the transit I am facing and dreading right now

Tr Pluto opposite my natal Saturn exact,
Tr Pluto in my 2nd house, and natal Saturn in my 8th house, and ruling 2nd.
(I don`t know if it even means anything, ut Tr Pluto is also sextile my n Juno exact, with the natal trine between Juno and Saturn being the tightest aspect in my chart, one minute of orb).

posted January 23, 2016 02:53 PM            

But first let's talk about you.

Best manifestation:

4 of cups 6 of wands (it was rev btw but since you hate rx i am going to ignore this) king of pents. Clarifier: devil
-> wow, that was a bit hard for me. Please feel free to let me know your interpretation. When looking at the spread i need to think "refuse offers, ambitions just for the sake of being nurtured and financially stable. Don't be too cautios, be daring". I think since pluto is in the 2nd house, the house of money & self-worth it could mean the following: it would now be the time for a change in profession resp a change of status, making your living with what you really love to do; maybe it's not a real turnaround but an addition, like a 2nd job. It could also mean that you let go of desiring attention from men, being able to feel sexy without any confirmation. I mean the 6 of wands is in the middle, it is all about victory, going after something/someone. Maybe it is the time to get rid of that desire, being reluctant to look for any victory of any kind.

worst way of manifestion:

page of swords 9 of swords the sun (rev). clarifier: devil (again!)
since you now can rid of any attention seeking of any kind (job, profession, love, etc.) - i mean 99% of mankind have those desires of any kind and you are now getting the chance to get rid of that), nightmares could come true: receiving unsensitive message (page of swords) that leave you feeling very down (9 of swords) and after that either no hope, if you count sun rx, or this depression would be followed by new enthusiasm. Sounds like some bi.polar thing esp facing the devil

posted January 24, 2016 06:23 AM            

" would now be the time for a change in profession resp a change of status,"
I actually already did. becoming a lifetime civil servant as you maybe knows meant a lot of bureaucratic stuff, but eventually means earning more money, and a different kind of pension and all of that. And I had to look for a new health insurance, which was really stressing me out and there was a lot of papers to fill out and send and resend and discuss and stuff. But it`s done now. Luckily.
My Solar return also has a strong 2nd house emphasis.

Sun conjunct the cusp of 2nd house (0°04), as ruler of the 9th house.

Being the apex planet of a T-square, with squares to
Moon in Pisces in 4th house (5°33)
- Moon applying to Sun, so in fact a first quarter lunar phase inbuilt in this year, seems significant-

and
Jupiter in Virgo in 10th (3°23 s)
NN in Virgo in 10th (0°25 a)
- which I supose means my Sun represents a skipped step for this year-

Also, within 2nd house there is
Mercury conjunct Pluto (2°16 a),
(Mercury ruling 10th and 8th, Pluto ruling 12th and 1st)

This conjunction is:

- square Uranus at the cusp of 5th house, as ruler of 3rd (4°16 / 2°00, both applying)

- sextile Venus in 12th, ruler of 7th, 11th and 6th (3°07/ 0°51, both applying, too)

- trine MC (3°49/ 1°32)

(that is non precessed solar return: precessed one funnily enough has ASC on 3 Leo, right where the fullmoon last night happened. lol
But it puts the Mercury-Pluto-conjunction nto 6th house - meh, do not like it there!
Sun in the 5th looks niceish though. Anyway I disgress. sorry. )

"aybe it's not a real turnaround but an addition, like a 2nd job."
Yes, been asked to take over the organization of the courses/ workshops for literature and theatre, we have yearly (twice a year, and actually on 1st march another one is coming up) and where the ones doing the workshops coming to our school, from a different city. Curiously from Mr Sag`s hometown. It always amused me, because actually my school is not even in the appropriate area, for those people doing the workshops here, as it is a little wide geographically (a bit more than an hour by car), but the one organizing those workshops and inviting the ones who are actually doing them, apparently likes being at our school or working with us, I donīt know.
And Iīve slowly grown into these workshops myself, I donīt even view them necesarily as addition to my teaching skills (well they are), but came to realize how much I miss writing, and for some weird reason acting. Not really that forward with it, but it is amazing what effect it has on me. lol
Well next workshop will be a theatre-one again, so it means I will worry myself sick over it, feel completely pushed out of my comfort zone, trying to hide away, while being in plain sight, and yet being pushed into the water, have probably a great time splashing around. lol

" It could also mean that you let go of desiring attention from men, being able to feel sexy without any confirmation."
Funny you say that.
I would have interpreted it exact the other way around.

In fact I`ve done that all my life, not caring about attention from men. No scratch that I took every possible step to make myself as undesireable as possible, and not wasting any thoughts on getting attention for my physical being. Even getting really uncomfortable if I did.
Of course that has to do with experiences leading back to my youth, where I was drawing a lot of unwanted sexual attention to myself, and while I donīremember actual sexual abuse (there might have been some I just don`t have access to), I do remember being stalked on the streets, in streetcars, trains and having such a tough time getting rid of these guys (curiously enough mostly North African, Eastern European or Turkish men - and of course the memories of that were sort of pulled to the surface again due to recent news, as you can imagine).
But also getting the unwanted attention from neighbours, friends brothers and having my hand full of trying to become invisible as possible. As I said I do not remember actual sexual abuse (well I do remember molestations,b ut who doesn`t I guess?), but the danger of what could happen was always in the air, and it was enough to make me turn completely into myself and well make myself undesireable. And yes it was a pretty conscious decision.
But I also put life and my own development onto hold by that.

And now, things are changing, and I once again get a little more attention, but I am hopeful tha I am grown up enough to draw my lines myself now and to deal with it. At least it usually doesn`t feel that threatening anymore.
I guess I am learning to trust myself and also learning to trust others, read: men. That attention is not equal to leading to some form of "pressure".
But it`s still a long way until there. There is still the suspicious voice inside of me.

So your interpretation was interesting to me, as I was never wanting to gain attention from men, and quite the other way round tried my best to disappear from sight. lol

But I do agree with you, I donīt need confirmation from outside. I really donīt, though it is nice to get feedback, because I have sometimes a warped perspective of myself, so it is interesting to see myself through other eyes, too. Just makes the picture more complete, as I know that I am of course very subjective when it comes to myself.

" A big chance."
Yes, I hope so.

posted January 24, 2016 06:32 AM            

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Originally posted by Enneline:
and what do you think as an astrologer?

B.

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Thanks for the compliment.

And the astrologer in me thinks you have great mental capacities witht hat Mercury-Jupiter-conjunction, and mostly verbal or writing skills I think.
With Neptune and Pluto involved, too, it will deal with deep subjects, maybe even supernatural/ mystical one (or poetic or Vampires lol also historical would be a possibility, though I would have xpected Satrn to be tied to it if it were strongly historical, but maybe it is not so much factual documentary as novel-based?)

Anyway there would be a good balanced creativity as well, as the aspects are mostly harmonious and flowing. No Drama queen at home.

I wonder if Pluto is on the Mercury/Neptune-mp though (1,5 degrees to either side).

Can you see this interpretation for you?

posted January 24, 2016 09:50 AM            

Sun conjunct the cusp of 2nd house (0°04), as ruler of the 9th house.
-> ah great, new opportunities for living

and
Jupiter in Virgo in 10th (3°23 s)
NN in Virgo in 10th (0°25 a)
- which I supose means my Sun represents a skipped step for this year-
-> why do you think that?

Yes, been asked to take over the organization of the courses/ workshops for literature and theatre,ffect it has on me. lol
-> great!

" It could also mean that you let go of desiring attention from men, being able to feel sexy without any confirmation."
Funny you say that.
I would have interpreted it exact the other way around.

posted January 24, 2016 10:08 AM            

And the astrologer in me thinks you have great mental capacities witht hat Mercury-Jupiter-conjunction, and mostly verbal or writing skills I think.
With Neptune and Pluto involved, too, it will deal with deep subjects, maybe even supernatural/ mystical one (or poetic or Vampires lol also historical would be a possibility, though I would have xpected Satrn to be tied to it if it were strongly historical, but maybe it is not so much factual documentary as novel-based?)
-> thank you very much Saturn is sextile venus and conjunct nn in 2nd house. All those planets: merc, nep, pluto, venus and saturn are connected somehow and yes, i prefer novels to documentary. Look, again spot on. Terrific astrologer!

Anyway there would be a good balanced creativity as well, as the aspects are mostly harmonious and flowing. No Drama queen at home.

I wonder if Pluto is on the Mercury/Neptune-mp though (1,5 degrees to either side).
-> that's true! Exactly on the mdp

Can you see this interpretation for you?

posted January 25, 2016 06:10 AM            

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Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:
Ahhhhhhhhhh the awesome thing we started here!!!
http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum35/HTML/003216.html
I've been thinking about it for the past 2 weeks, how strange!

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oh, i needed 2 weeks to get your vibs

posted January 25, 2016 11:19 AM            

Always wondered what some aspects denoted in my chart. Who will exchange?

What are these asteroids conjunct Mercury (Libra, 3rd house) telling me? What am I supposed to do/discover or communicate?

Quaoar 13.32
Makhaon 13.32
Archimedes 13.56
Mercury 13.57

posted January 29, 2016 09:40 AM            

7 OF CUPS QUEEN OF SWORDS TEMPERANCE KNIGHT OF PENTACLES 5 OF SWORDS (SUN)

posted January 29, 2016 11:13 AM            

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Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:
This is your Fire GT Enneline

7 OF CUPS QUEEN OF SWORDS TEMPERANCE KNIGHT OF PENTACLES 5 OF SWORDS (SUN)

Creative talent and imagination ( 7 of cups and Temperance) expressed through writing (Queen of Swords). The easiness and comfort of the GT plays out magistrally here, as it is classically described, for there is always a risk with a GT to take things for granted (5 of sw) and not apply enough GEDULD oops sorry and discipline (Knight of Pentacles + Temperance) to achieve concrete results with your gifts ( a sense of defeat in the 5 of sw, and achievement described by the Knight). BUT to the question if you manage to implement Geduld and Selbstdisziplin (I hope it's the right word) and bring this GT into the world, the Sonne comes up and tells us a nice big yes (it must be your Saturn helping you a lot with this

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thank you my dear

maybe the 5 of swords tell the story of the kite: pluto on ice and it#s ruler in the 12h -> you give up

posted January 29, 2016 11:31 AM            

What about my Yod? That would be awesome

It's a Boomerang actually.

apex Jupiter in Pisces 2nd
sextile Moon (Leo 7th) and Mercury (Libra 8th)

posted January 29, 2016 12:01 PM            

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Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:
I didn't see it is a Kite, in this case Pluto emerges successfully if and when insecurity is overcome, and the 5 of swords manifests as winning over one's deepest fears and wounds (12th house, Pluto conj IC)

What about my Yod? That would be awesome

It's a Boomerang actually.

apex Jupiter in Pisces 2nd
sextile Moon (Leo 7th) and Mercury (Libra 8th)

release Aphrodite (Sun Venus mdp) in Virgo 8th

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ah okay another point of view

okay, your yod and the best way it can be used
queen of pents hermit judgment (clarifier: 6 of wands) 7 of wands and 7 of pents
-> the queen of pents (you virgo) is for me a financial stable person (of course her mind is stable as well), so i think that yod helps you to become financially independent and stable and since qop also means "girlfriend" it helps you in establishing serious relationships. The hermit is for me a great card for looking insight, using own strength, spending time alone to get clear insights, etc. and the judgment (what a great card to follow after ther hermit) shows the ability of good judment in this case since the clarifier is 6 of wands. That yod makes you able to make good decisions for yourself but since an angel announce on this card, i think this card also shows messages from the universe. The remaining cards prove your ability to defend yourself (in any way) and the 7 of pents your ability of hard work- inkl enjoying the results of it

the worst way that yod can be shown:
6 of swords(it was rx) page of swords judgment (it was rx) death and hanged man
-> normally the 6 of swords can be relocation and leaving the current stage which is not a bad sign but since i've asked about the worst way and since it was rx, i would interpret like not being able to move on, to relocate, to get stucked in the current stage. The page of swords is no bad card at all but in the worst scenario the page of swords provides unsenstitve bad messages (sharp tongue). the judgment rx can be sudden changes of plans and/or a bad ability to make good judgments leading to death of plans (or even hope) and not being able to move on in any way (hanged man)

posted January 29, 2016 01:11 PM            

for me, there is a free will (to some extent) and so all aspects and configurations can lead to a good or a bad outcome, resp. a use for your own good and for your own bad.
I think any aspect has a good or a bad side
For example, let's have a look at Stephen king's chart.

His saturn & pluto in the 1st shows difficulties in his childhood (his father left his family and there was at least another very traumatic event in his childhood) but we both know that this config can also prove a lot of discipline, willpower.
We all know that he suffered from alcoholism for many years but he was able to stop it. So this aspect could have led to his own destruction but he chose to use it for his willpower.

And so this is the case with your yod or my kite, if not use properly, we will end up being stucked, just dream about our dreams or making false decisions.

posted January 29, 2016 01:21 PM            

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Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:
btw, in your first spread I see the yod takes a loooooong time to manifest, and a long preparation from my side, and this is exactly how yods are, pretty amazing spread.

I also see the querent (me) being alone in this quest for quite some time. Very true also.

Judgment is being "summoned" to the yod quest, and feeling this ever since birth, the "calling". All Yod people experience this calling, perfectly described by Judgment and Hermit.

I know it sounds strange to talk to people about missions and callings but this is the truth about Yods.

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posted January 29, 2016 01:29 PM            

While the Kite is a permanent personality structure, the Yod is basically an external EVENT. This event is inevitable.

So this event/series of events for me, triggering the Yod, will be very specific.

If we are to find cards for what defines a Yod: Tower, Wheel of Fortune, Judgment, Star.

posted January 29, 2016 01:31 PM            

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Originally posted by Enneline:
and leave me alone with Lady Di. I don't think her chart was relevant since she was a so-called "dazzler" (in the aura language). Her aura was put over (from inside to outside). This means that she was not Diana Spencer, she was a dazzler who was very popular, could play any role that was requested, felt a huge "emptiness" in herself and died young.
That is what a "dazzler" aura results in.
Sorry for the confusion but i don't discuss about the "dazzlers" charts since this would be ridiculous for me.

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I didn't say I like lady di, I actually dislike her, personally, or let's say she is not a model to me; I was just explaining the Yod dynamics and she is a good example for how a Yod manifests, the role thingy.

posted January 29, 2016 01:33 PM            

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Originally posted by Enneline:
but confirms both the first and the 2nd spread.
The 2nd spread shows that there wouldn't be a long path, no path at all, stucked in and the mission is rx, hence awkward leading to nothing. Don't think you would be dying

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posted January 29, 2016 01:34 PM            

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Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:
There is however a difference between a Kite which shows a bundle of skills/talents or a specific talent/set of skills you are born with and somehow free to use them as you please, take them to perfection, or not use them, or under-use them and the Yod, which corresponds as meaning to a specific role/position in life that will become "official" by an inevitable act of fate the querent cannot prevent, but they prepare for it, either consciously or unconsciously.

While the Kite is a permanent personality structure, the Yod is basically an external EVENT. This event is inevitable.

So this event/series of events for me, triggering the Yod, will be very specific.

If we are to find cards for what defines a Yod: Tower, Wheel of Fortune, Judgment, Star.

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posted January 29, 2016 01:37 PM            

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Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:
If the "mission" didn't exist or led to nothing, there will be no Yod in the chart. Yods always show very important, life changing events, usually with impact not just on the Yod bearer, they have a collective impact..

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posted January 29, 2016 01:41 PM            

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Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:
I didn't say I like lady di, I actually dislike her, personally, or let's say she is not a model to me; I was just explaining the Yod dynamics and she is a good example for how a Yod manifests, the role thingy.

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but there was no real lady Di- her aura was dazzled, she was just playing roles, she didn't have a personality in the common sense.
Her will was broken when she was little, probably due to harsh treatment, and so, for her own protection her aura was put over. So she just did fit in whenever she needed. Of course she felt the emptiness, that's why she was emotionally unstable.

So did she fulfill her mission despite non existing personality, playing roles only and being empty inside and just dazzling and dazzling and dazzling?