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VacantGazer
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posted January 24, 2016 01:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for VacantGazer     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hello, sorry for the long rambling post

I'm practising tarot and would like an opinion on a spread i did for myself

I asked the cards for some advice on my own spiritual development. I don't really mean just in terms of psychic development but just general spirituality.

The Empress Reversed, 6 of cups, Strength reversed, 10 Swords, 7 swords reversed

the theme of the main spread was clarified with King of wands rev, 8 of pents rev and 7 pents.


I think the spread is saying about inner strength and be open to more new ideas let go of things that no longer work for me. The 10 of swords shows a picture of a guy lying face down on the ground, stuck to the ground because of the swords. We can't see his face because maybe he is afraid to look around, ignoring the signs and changes around him. Interestingly my most recent dream that i can remember I was lying asleep. Eyes were closed perhaps it meant i was ignoring things around me(new ideas).

Also 10s are approaching the end of a cycle so it means for me preparation for leaving something behind. 7 swords reversed is also a kind of wall perhaps a lack of trust in some beliefs or it means to let the wall down and share some of beliefs with others and listen to them too.

I think it means use my inner strength and let go things/belief patterns that no longer work, let the walls down and share beliefs with others and listen to theirs as well.

Any thoughts? If someone wants I can try pull for them too.

Thanks

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GeminiKarat
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posted January 24, 2016 03:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for GeminiKarat     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I miss: Please don't quote might edit later .

I see the 10 of swords more in the direction:
There are so many spiritual leaders out there.
The rest is like you said:
Trust your inner strength, be open to other opinions, but make up your own mind.

I would have never thought of a different use of playing cards. You can teach me how to decipher those cards.

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posted January 24, 2016 04:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for VacantGazer     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thank you GK

As far as I understand(i could be wrong though ), playing cards were initially used as divination tools and not for games. They are an old divination tool. There are similarities between playing cards and the minor arcana in tarot, but there are also some differences too.

If you like we can have an exchange thread to practise. It's good to exchange ideas as I think cards can represent different things to people. Actually I had a few days ago thought about asking you to do a tarot one . Maybe we can do both? Not tonight though, it will soon be my bed time

Here you go -> please dont quote might edit later

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GeminiKarat
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posted January 24, 2016 04:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for GeminiKarat     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
^^^Thank you.

Sure, just tell me when you have time.

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posted January 24, 2016 04:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for VacantGazer     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Sure

Also if you wish me to ask the same question for you(or another question) let me know. I will get to it tomorrow though if it is fine for you

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posted January 25, 2016 02:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for GeminiKarat     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yes please!

Spirituality and to become a better person is always a thing I want to work on.

I only have time on Thursday night to discuss a reading that I do for you. The rest of the week I more of a wondering soul.

Do you think that cartomancy is working for this question as well?
I do like very old traditions.

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posted January 25, 2016 03:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for VacantGazer     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hey GK,

I asked for some advice on your spiritual development

These are the cards I pulled, please take with a grain of salt, theres a big chance im wrong

The tower popped up twice while shuffling, so I think there is a strong emphasis on this card.

9 Swords rev, 6 Swords rev, The hierophant rev, king of cups rev, the hermit rev

Theme of main spread clarified by;
page of wands rev, 8 of swords rev,devil rev

The knight of cups was upright while i layed out the cards.

OK, my first thoughts are about fears and letting go of them. Especially with the tower, means let the walls down and dont be afraid of changes. I think the knight of cups perhaps is suggesting you will meet someone who is going to bring about big changes. The hierophant rev, being a spiritual card maybe says get in touch with your inner spirit, it's also a card of tradition, maybe keep some of your traditions. As the cards are mostly reversed, i think they say trust your own intuition on things the cards suggest you to be very wise, keep your traditions, but also let go of fears you might have. 6 of swords is moving forward card, but reversed it makes me think of looking back. The hermit reversed at the end is looking forward.

I think that it all means look to the past to learn from and let go of fears, learn from it, trust your inner judgement as you have a lot of wisdom. Dont fear change, let the walls come down. This will help you move forward like the hermit looking to the future with his light(bringing his lessons learned with him into the future). I think you might also meet someone soon who will bring about some changes. There is a big emphasis on change and taking risks i think because of the tower popping up twice.

Let me know what you think, or if you have an interpretation

Pls dont quote might edit later

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posted January 25, 2016 03:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for GeminiKarat     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thank you very much for the reading!

I was wondering whether the tower can stand for a house as well. I do not fear anything any more. The only thing I can loose is the house and those chances are low.

It is interesting. Some get the Wheel of fortune and I get the Tower .

I will post my opinion tomorrow.

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posted January 25, 2016 04:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for VacantGazer     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
No problem GK, take your time

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posted January 26, 2016 01:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for VacantGazer     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Perhaps rather than fears the swords refer to the astrological relations of the card..

9 swords is also thinking alot
http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum18/HTML/002132.html

Just some thoughts

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posted January 26, 2016 02:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for GeminiKarat     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yes I do think a lot. That is definitely a very good connection.
I have thought this day about your spread.

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posted January 26, 2016 03:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for VacantGazer     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thank you for the feedback GK, I've read it, you can edit it out now. I'm happy the cards resonated, hope it has been of some help/useful

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posted January 26, 2016 03:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for GeminiKarat     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Actually I was amazed and your connection is very good. I just did not decipher the meaning of the reversal.

I do not recommend that spiritual journey. The Tower - Devil thingy is it not worth .

I still want to thank you for that reminder. You gave me a different input on the entire journey. I will continue to become a better person.

Next one is on me!

I will try to receive an advice for you with cartomancy. Please bear with me!

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posted January 26, 2016 04:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for VacantGazer     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
No problem and thanks alot GK!

I'm interested to see what cartomancy says, take your time there's no rush, whenever you're free

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posted January 28, 2016 07:36 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for GeminiKarat     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Spiritual advice with cartomancy:

AS..JC..10S..10C..4C
clarified by:
3H..10C..6C
My try on the interpretation:
There has been a difficult ending with an admirer. Such ending can bring worries and the feeling that there are evil forces at work. Such an travel/experience can bring reliable contacts. This prayer and contact with the spiritual world will help to overcome any negativity.

Feedback and better interpretation is appreciated.

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posted January 28, 2016 12:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for VacantGazer     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks for the reading GK, I will have a think and come back. I've not done this with Cartomancy before

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posted January 28, 2016 01:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for GeminiKarat     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
O.K. Please take your time.

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posted January 28, 2016 02:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for VacantGazer     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I had some thoughts GK,

Ace Spades - transformation, its also a mental card.
3 Hearts - Can be indecisions. Perhaps means with AS to make choices with a clear head. Live with a decision you made(as it's in the past position?)
JC - Friend

10S - Grief and worry.
10 clubs - travel, new beginning/relationship ahead?
4 Clubs - Creativity/frustrations/stress
6 Hearts - Balance/Harmony/nostaglia

My thoughts
I think it means make your mind up about what you want, AS to 10S is start of a cycle to end, make a choice to finally end a cycle one way or other. Allow yourself to grieve from pains as you will soon start to heal(as cycle is ending). Take some time out to travel - travel back to were you have been(perhaps visit family?), go to what is familiar to you, to take all the stresses away(I grew up near the sea, sea air is good for calming) which will prepare you for the new start ahead(end of cycles - so new start). Clubs are also communication, perhaps in addition is about not being afraid to speak about feelings/frustrations, which will let go of blockages?


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posted January 28, 2016 02:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for GeminiKarat     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I saw that I made a mistake

In the spread of clarification I had the 10 of diamonds. In cartomancy you count the numbers as well and it was interesting to see the 3 10's. The two in the above line where black and the very beginning was an Ace.

I could not make a connection to the travel card. I like what you said about it.

What is a stronger card for the ending and new beginning circle in you opinion? Aces or 10's.

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posted January 28, 2016 03:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for VacantGazer     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I dont know i guess i cant really compare the two in that way. 10's mean something is ending/completing/goal being reached so a new beginning will follow this phase. Ace's are the new beginning and say something has already ended(unless it's in future position of course, which means you will soon start this new phase).

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posted January 29, 2016 06:50 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for GeminiKarat     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Interesting. In numerology #9 is the completion and with the cards #10.


Did the cards resonated with you?

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posted January 29, 2016 07:27 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for VacantGazer     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yes they did very much so - i will be going home in a few weeks to visit my family. I need to recharge my batteries. Also with regards to this cyclic pattern - i need to end it.

Im not so knowledgeable about numerology i only know this life path number. It is related to cartomancy but dont really know about the relation.

Thanks GK

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