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SunChild
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posted February 27, 2011 06:48 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Wasn't it something to do with when she was a child and another boy?

I'm really vague on this riddle as I didn't spend much time on it.

E.T.A. (that's the answer you get when you don't read the question properly... lol)


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“It’s an interesting thing. Seeing Kuan Yin relating to a flower so intently. She's not just looking at it; she's interacting with it…I’m seeing how the act of relating to a flower appears to be so simple. Yet, it takes a tremendous amount of courage to make such a “simple” act important. Now, the lotus is floating away.”

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posted February 27, 2011 07:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Okay, time for the big reveal.

"You will not be meeting for the first time. You have lived countless lives together in former incarnations--even in this present one."

"Even in this present one."

To me, the only way you can live countless lives together in the present incarnation is through parallel universes (which Linda does speak of later on concerning many Earths) or through simultaneous lifetimes (will explain that in detail in a bit). Saturn Seven Cycles are more rare and are the exception, not the rule (soul exchanges to advance growth). Due to the context of the conversation being about the illusion of time instead of alternate universes, my bet is on simultaneous lifetimes.

We look at time as linear--mainly because we are trapped within the illusion. When a Soul chooses to incarnate, it is always with a purpose (or many purposes), and the exact time of birth is one thing which can be said to be fated...fated in that it is chose in advance by the Soul. Fate is actually just our Higher S-elves guiding our choices and/or us choosing certain outcomes and Soul Contracts we made prior to birth, but we can still ruin things by our insistence to use those pesky Free-Will Legos to our own detriment. Anyway, the natal chart is our Map, our Guide, our Set Of Instructions for this Body Temple, and we choose the time and place to incarnate which gives us the Map we need. This choice is irrespective of the date in Earthly "time." There is no linear time beyond the physical--just a Celestial Scale with pinpoints on it to choose our next birth in the sequence. Our last lifetime could have been in the Earth year of 2319, and our next could be in the Earth year 1923. The numbers mean nothing. People assume that our lifetimes only occur forward in time. Incarnations don't work that way. We have had many countless lifetimes--both past and future! It's a "future" incarnation only based upon the Earth time scale. And sometimes, we incarnate in times where the time frames coincide with other lifetimes, and these are what I call simultaneous lifetimes. How fitting that the turbaned one would mention the word "simultaneous." Ahhhhhh, yet another clue he gave to confirm the solution to the riddle. So, it is clear if you are incarnated multiple times in this linear point, you might meet yourself; in fact, your worst enemy could be you (literally) sent to help another you avert disaster by trying to influence your Free-Will (we are always still in control of making choices) into the right direction...or to save the fallen Angel of your Twin.

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"Never mentally imagine for another that which you would not want to experience for yourself, since the mental image you send out inevitably comes back to you." Rebecca Clark

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SunChild
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posted February 27, 2011 07:59 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Oh yeah!

That did cross my mind but I didn't carry the thought further enough.

Duh!

I like this bit

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So, it is clear if you are incarnated multiple times in this linear point, you might meet yourself; in fact, your worst enemy could be you (literally) sent to help another you avert disaster by trying to influence your Free-Will (we are always still in control of making choices) into the right direction...or to save the fallen Angel of your Twin

Good work Randall.

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“It’s an interesting thing. Seeing Kuan Yin relating to a flower so intently. She's not just looking at it; she's interacting with it…I’m seeing how the act of relating to a flower appears to be so simple. Yet, it takes a tremendous amount of courage to make such a “simple” act important. Now, the lotus is floating away.”

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posted February 27, 2011 08:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Quinnie     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Oh hey..thats cool.I'm looking out for me...

Awesome Randall!

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posted February 27, 2011 08:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Not only have some of us entertained angels unawares (as in the oft-quoted Biblical verse), but some may have entertained themselves unawares. Now, keep in mind that simultaneous lifetimes don't mean that we are necessarily doing it to affect another of us; it could be that we never meet another incarnation of ourselves. But in Linda's case, her and her Twin spent many lifetimes two-gether, including some unions that were at the same time that Linda was presently absent her Twin when she first heard the news from the turbaned one. They always found each other when possible. As the turbaned one said, "Love is all." Love transcends time.

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"Never mentally imagine for another that which you would not want to experience for yourself, since the mental image you send out inevitably comes back to you." Rebecca Clark

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posted February 28, 2011 12:53 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for PlutoSquared     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Randall:
Not only have some of us entertained angels unawares (as in the oft-quoted Biblical verse), but some may have entertained themselves unawares. Now, keep in mind that simultaneous lifetimes don't mean that we are necessarily doing it to affect another of us; it could be that we never meet another incarnation of ourselves. But in Linda's case, her and her Twin spent many lifetimes two-gether, including some unions that were at the same time that Linda was presently absent her Twin when she first heard the news from the turbaned one. They always found each other when possible. As the turbaned one said, "Love is all." Love transcends time.


I've thought about this sort of shifting through alternate realities, before. Parallel lives going on at the same time - something that made me think of this was watching a program on string theory.

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posted February 28, 2011 12:57 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I believe in that, too, but I'm talking about simultaneous incarnations in this reality.

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posted February 28, 2011 12:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for EverEvolvingSpirit     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Randall:
Not only have some of us entertained angels unawares (as in the oft-quoted Biblical verse), but some may have entertained themselves unawares. Now, keep in mind that simultaneous lifetimes don't mean that we are necessarily doing it to affect another of us; it could be that we never meet another incarnation of ourselves. But in Linda's case, her and her Twin spent many lifetimes two-gether, including some unions that were at the same time that Linda was presently absent her Twin when she first heard the news from the turbaned one. They always found each other when possible. As the turbaned one said, "Love is all." Love transcends time.


Randall, this is very deep. I almost have to read several times and sit and absorb it. Thanks.

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posted March 01, 2011 09:55 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Unconquerable     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
That was really enlightening Randall!

I have a question...
How are simultaneous lifetimes possible?... I mean, how does it work?...Does our soul divide itself into many pieces and then those pieces incarnate in different bodies...?

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posted March 01, 2011 10:17 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
No, I think it just has to do with the illusion of linear time. All of time is one huge projection--the Eternal Now. All incarnations occur within that projection, so all incarnations are simultaneous. One soul, one body...but when stuck in this linear prison, it can appear to be a bit of a paradox.

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posted March 02, 2011 10:56 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Is NickiG participating?

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posted March 02, 2011 12:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for emitres     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
hhmm...very interesting take - i did not go in that direction at all...

thank you Randall

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posted March 03, 2011 11:05 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You're welcome. Anyone ready for Chapter One?

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posted March 03, 2011 11:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for PlutoSquared     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
ME

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posted March 04, 2011 01:03 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Frozen Queen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Simultaneous lives...

A Soul Choice and the branching of a parallel universe...diverging paths...converging Souls...and Marcus Solo...

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We have known each other forever yet we are strangers
We have stood facing each other for ages yet we have not met.

I'm late to the party...sowwee for the gatecrashing

Intriguing answer you have Randall to an intriguing question. If I may present my interpretation of this Unity of Twins...

I see Twins as showing Quantum Entanglement...no matter how "far" they are, how separated in the physical world, their Souls are entangled with each other and what happens to one happens to the other...they are essentially One. Hence why they sense each others' presence among countless other synchronicities...

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Ask Me anything. Anything. I will contrive to bring you the answer. The whole universe will I use to do this. So be on the lookout. This book is far from My only tool. You may ask a question, then put this book down. But watch. Listen. The words to the next song you hear. The information in the next article you read. The story line of the next movie you watch. The chance utterance of the next person you meet. Or the whisper of the next river, the next ocean, the next breeze that caresses your ear—all these devices are Mine; all these avenues are open to Me. I will speak to you if you will listen. I will come to you if you will invite Me. I will show you then that I have always been there. All ways.

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I agree...totally. We have quantum physics, so by the Law of Reverse Polarity, there must be also quantum metaphysics. Just as a Twin Particle is affected by its counterpart no matter the vast light years of distance between the two (proving that not only is time relative, but so is space/distance), likewise one Twin affects the other--rippling through the fabric of countless parallel Uni-verses. Quite!

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Hahahahahahahahaha!!!!

I loved how you said, "Quite!"...Nahtan

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Ask Me anything. Anything. I will contrive to bring you the answer. The whole universe will I use to do this. So be on the lookout. This book is far from My only tool. You may ask a question, then put this book down. But watch. Listen. The words to the next song you hear. The information in the next article you read. The story line of the next movie you watch. The chance utterance of the next person you meet. Or the whisper of the next river, the next ocean, the next breeze that caresses your ear—all these devices are Mine; all these avenues are open to Me. I will speak to you if you will listen. I will come to you if you will invite Me. I will show you then that I have always been there. All ways.

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posted March 04, 2011 03:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
*POOF* [leaves a box of Goobers behind]

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posted March 05, 2011 02:36 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for roshanrai     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Randall:
Okay, time for the big reveal.

"You will not be meeting for the first time. You have lived countless lives together in former incarnations--even in this present one."

"Even in this present one."

To me, the only way you can live countless lives together in the present incarnation is through parallel universes (which Linda does speak of later on concerning many Earths) or through simultaneous lifetimes (will explain that in detail in a bit). Saturn Seven Cycles are more rare and are the exception, not the rule (soul exchanges to advance growth). Due to the context of the conversation being about the illusion of time instead of alternate universes, my bet is on simultaneous lifetimes.

We look at time as linear--mainly because we are trapped within the illusion. When a Soul chooses to incarnate, it is always with a purpose (or many purposes), and the exact time of birth is one thing which can be said to be fated...fated in that it is chose in advance by the Soul. Fate is actually just our Higher S-elves guiding our choices and/or us choosing certain outcomes and Soul Contracts we made prior to birth, but we can still ruin things by our insistence to use those pesky Free-Will Legos to our own detriment. Anyway, the natal chart is our Map, our Guide, our Set Of Instructions for this Body Temple, and we choose the time and place to incarnate which gives us the Map we need. This choice is irrespective of the date in Earthly "time." There is no linear time beyond the physical--just a Celestial Scale with pinpoints on it to choose our next birth in the sequence. Our last lifetime could have been in the Earth year of 2319, and our next could be in the Earth year 1923. The numbers mean nothing. People assume that our lifetimes only occur forward in time. Incarnations don't work that way. We have had many countless lifetimes--both past and future! It's a "future" incarnation only based upon the Earth time scale. And sometimes, we incarnate in times where the time frames coincide with other lifetimes, and these are what I call simultaneous lifetimes. How fitting that the turbaned one would mention the word "simultaneous." Ahhhhhh, yet another clue he gave to confirm the solution to the riddle. So, it is clear if you are incarnated multiple times in this linear point, you might meet yourself; in fact, your worst enemy could be you (literally) sent to help another you avert disaster by trying to influence your Free-Will (we are always still in control of making choices) into the right direction...or to save the fallen Angel of your Twin.



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This reminds me of a movie that I had seen a long time back "BACK TO THE FUTURE" Though the movie is just a science fiction but even then it intrigued me and I felt it is quiet possible to time travel

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I see Twins as showing Quantum Entanglement...no matter how "far" they are, how separated in the physical world, their Souls are entangled with each other and what happens to one happens to the other...they are essentially One. Hence why they sense each others' presence among countless other synchronicities...
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And this reminds me of genetically identical twins who are born from time to time. I envy them that they are so lucky to be born at the same time,same place and from the same womb.


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posted March 05, 2011 02:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for EverEvolvingSpirit     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by roshanrai:
I see Twins as showing Quantum Entanglement...no matter how "far" they are, how separated in the physical world, their Souls are entangled with each other and what happens to one happens to the other...they are essentially One. Hence why they sense each others' presence among countless other synchronicities...

Beautifully said

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Randall, that's perfect,
Yes, indeed, it's about stretching yourself beyond linear time into the Eternal Now of God-Mind. And stretching even further into the realm of Simultaneous Existences, where everything that has, is or will ever happen to you is occurring NOW. Linda denotes that all of that includes all your past and future lifelines – which really are not past or future at all, as they are being shaped by what you think at this very moment in time-- again, not when they occurred – as there is no chronological time in the Eternal Now.

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