posted September 18, 2002 11:11 AM           

Where is it written that Jesus said that you should not go out and build stone buildings to gather and worship?
Also, is the word legion in the word religion? and what does that say for religion
its-elf?
Wasn't legion a bunch of demons?
Also can we still interpret the BOOK correctly, even though it has been tampered with over the years?

I know these are all serious questions and I hope this doen't take up too much of your time... But I really need to know what someone else thinks?
I do NOT trust any religion at all, I have been to most of them and I have found some fault in everyone that I have been to.

posted September 18, 2002 07:11 PM           

Your next questions, "legion" in "religion", and its meaning, I tell you that "religion" includes several else words:
01-grin;
02-loner, lone;
03-ring;
04-longer;
05-riling;
06-roiling
07-lion;
08-glen;
09-lore;
10-negro;
11-lorn;
12-goner;
13-region;
14-iron;
15-ling;
16-lego;
17-groin;
18-reno;
19-linger;
20-lingo;
21-lien;
22-gone;
23-oiling, oiler, oilier
24-reign;
25-liner;
26-Niger
27-Nile;
28-Negri;
29-olein;
30-Elron; etc...
Which one would you choose to describe the religions? It could depend on what you'd want to say, right?

I had already answered your next question, on the own topic you asked before. I wrote "It's a big mistake to say the Bible has been changed by the church. What really happened was that the church has changed the interpretation of Bible's teachings. But the Book is the same. "The grass withers and the flowers fall, but the word of our God stands forever" (Isaiah 40:8).

posted September 19, 2002 10:05 AM         

Where is the Book of Jasher? The Book of Noah? The Book of Enoch? The Book of the Wars of Yahweh?

All of these, and more, are mentioned in the current version of the Bible, but are nowhere to be found - at least in the Book.

The Book is good, but it is incomplete and completely mis-translated/misunderstood.

posted September 20, 2002 01:48 AM           

You should not currently be studying nor questioning, nor trying to lex the bible, nor any other religion. You will become confused, despressed and trapped.
If you do not trust religion, do not venture there.
When the student is ready the teacher will appear. And you are not ready. Not yet, not for a while.
When the time comes it will be through a mentor that you trust. You must learn first to trust human kind before you can trust that which you cannot see nor feel.
Your mentor (s) will be there for you, and may be here now. But you will have to be very patient with yourself. Firstly just trust in yourself. Start there. This may take a while, but again be patient with yourself. Be kind to yourself, your journey is just starting, the peeling onion will bring tears one skin at a time. Patients Mary. Wonderful Mary.

posted September 20, 2002 10:15 AM         

You should do all that you can to ascertain the truth. No doubt, it can be very confusing, but it is also fascinating, and you will grow much through it.

Walk in Peace

posted September 20, 2002 01:24 PM           

Ra, I'm not an erudite, but when studying the Bible, I've been very serious, and I have always said I believe in our actual Bible because of solid reasons. Those books you mention as disappeared have not disappeared, at least entirely.

However, we'll be able to understand why they aren't included in that Bible we read today when we understand this:

THE BIBLE IS NOT A BOOK OF HUMAN ORIGIN (although it was written by men), but IT IS OUR CREATOR'S WORD.

Let's take the book of Noah as an example: We can ensure he wrote a book; it was very habitual for the ancient men to write the facts they had seen (no TV then). But his book is not lost; the essential words are included in Moses' books. We can say the same about the rest of the books (and other ones) mentioned by you.

The Bible was written (inspired) in order to compile the information we need to understand God's purposes. He made Moses and other Jews write that book, and older scrolls of Noah, Enoch, (even Adan, who knows?), etc, were very useful for Moses and the rest of the writers, like history books. But they took the portions which were needful.

This explanation I offer is entirely logical. Why should we need EVERY FAITHFUL'S SCROLL to understand that message (a quite simple message) that God wants we know and understand? Do you know how many men who "walked with God" wrote books when alive? Nobody knows.

One more detail: why did the "Inspired Scriptures" started with Moses and not, let's say, with Noah or Enoch? Very simple (everything in the Bible is very easy to understand): the reason is that God organized a people when Moses. An organized people is a trustful custody to keep the words in safety. That's why Paul said that "they (only Jews) have been entrusted with the very words of God" (Romans 3:1,2). Enoch, Noah, etc, were not Jews, so they didn't received inspiration to write. Moses did, and he recognized them as faithful men who did everything God asked from them.

posted September 23, 2002 02:06 PM           

ANYWAY I AM GLUED TO THE TV...
ON ONE OF THEM THEY SAID THAT SOME OF THE WORDS IN THE BIBLE ARE NOT TRANSLATED CORRECTLY.
(BETRAY) WAS NOT TO DO BAD OR EVIL WILL TO SOMEONE..IT MEANT TO HAND OVER. BASICLY JESUS SAID "GO DO IT," NOT YOU WILL DO IT.
THERE WERE A FEW OTHERS, I CAN'T RECALL ALL OF THEM.

posted September 23, 2002 06:13 PM           

Mary, I'm sure those investigators are fulfilling their researches starting from this principle: There is not any supernatural force; God's power is not necessary to explain those facts, etc. They must be atheist, I'm almost sure.

Therefore, all the explanations they offer are biased. Would you like to know this? The flood did cover our full planet, seven meters over the highest mountain. We can analyze a lot of evidences. But we first have to remember what geologists says: the tectonic movements and displacements of continents have provoked today's mountains to be higher than millenniums ago. So, Everest was not 8848 meters over the sea level then and oceanic basins were not so deep.

On this planet there's enough water to cover it at all, if the mountains are smaller and poles' ice thaws. Do you know that I myself live on a land that was covered by the ocean just two centuries ago? Of course, I am only 150 meters from the coast, but that proves dry land is still coming out.

About Mary's virginity, it's the same situation: they don't accept miracles are possible, and try to offer an explanation as an atheist can see the matter. They easily accept they were chimps millions years ago (no evidences, of course), but designed by a higher Being... No, it sounds non natural to them; even "non scientist", in spite of a lot of evidences.

posted September 23, 2002 08:54 PM           

that is just something else...

posted September 24, 2002 11:53 AM           

The flood is supported by several evidences. Notice this one published by The Saturday Evening Post about some animals found in different continents:

"Many of these animals were completely fresh with no damages on them, still standing or on their knees.[...] Here's an amazing scene [...]. Large groups of enormous beasts, well feed, non designed for cold climates were peacefully eating on sunny pastures [...] Suddenly, all of them died, without visible signals of violence and before they could swallow a last bit of food, and then they were frozen so quickly that every cell of their bodies is completely preserved". January 16, 1960, "Riddle of the Frozen Giants", by Ivan T. Sanderson, pages 82- 83.

Many investigations reveal that in Europe there were tigers, big tigers; in America, horses bigger than actual ones; in Siberia, many mammoths (some calculatons say five million), etc. Those animals suddenly died and were frozen.

The narration of the flood is registered by many ancient civilizations: Aztecs had their version, so did Babylonians, Egyptians, Chinese, etc. By the way, in Chinese the word "flood" is represented by the ideogram of a ship and the number 8. Interesting?

posted September 26, 2002 12:10 AM           

Also- mormons having sex with their kids, and Catholics praying to saints, that is what PEOPLE decided to do, traditions formed from faulty PEOPLE, that is not what the actual word teaches. Sure many branches of Catholic churches are heavy into saints, they are adding their own spin on things, just like crazy people in the KKK citing the bible as their source of insane ideas. I mean, you surely don't think all muslims are terrorists, right? There are strange and crazy branches of everything- people can be abusive and wrong, blame them not their religion. They are sick, and sometimes traditions taught in religion are based on fault, but the BOOK has brought a light into my life you cannot explain, translations faulty or not.
I am going to admit something, in my past I did jail time, more than once, because I had a drug problem and I let it consume my life. What brought me peace was reading the bible, and I really didn't care if a book wasn't in it, or if certain crazy people like to twist the words, or if there was scientific proof to back it, or if certain words weren't translated correctly. What I got from the stories was HOPE, LOVE, knowing that I was loved, knowing that I had strength in me I didn't think, inspiration to do goodwill towards myelf and others, LIGHT, FORGIVENESS for myself and others. It still brings me light and people can try as hard at they might to find discrepencies or point of wrongs of PEOPLE who FOLLOW their takes on religions, but they can't take the light out of my life! I only hope everyone can see light in theirs, whether it be from astrology, Allah, God, Jesus, Buddha, nature, whatever you feel it from, absorb it and share it with others. Sometimes it is good to see the positive in things, it is easier to see the negative, it takes more to see the positive in life.

posted September 26, 2002 03:12 PM           

Well,there is one thing(at least) in Genesis that I can't understand:
Genesis 1-26
Then God said, "Let us make man in our image, in our likeness, and let them rule over the fish of the sea and the birds of the air, over the livestock, over all the earth,and over all the creatures that move along the ground."

"US MAKE...OUR IMAGE...OUR LIKENESS"...I just don't get it...

When the Pope,or the Queen Elizabeth,for instance, talk about theirselves,they use "We want","We like",etc...because they represent "A religion" ,"The monarchy" and "A country".

In the case of God,I just can't figure why He used this pronoun.
This is not a critic,just a question.

Jackie