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Xuan
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posted October 16, 2002 09:49 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Xuan     Edit/Delete Message
What does a spiritual journey mean to everyone, where does it start, or end, what happens after death, do you live it everyday etc.

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Randall
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posted October 16, 2002 01:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message
Welcome to the site!

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Xuan
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posted October 16, 2002 02:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Xuan     Edit/Delete Message
Thanx Randall, great board

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AmberVonSchriek
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posted October 16, 2002 02:49 PM           Edit/Delete Message
Hello Xuan!! Welcome! This is a fabulous place.

Well I never really thought about when it starts. Perhaps it starts when your spirit chooses it's next form. Or perhaps it starts when you can conciously start to grasp the idea of a spiritual path. I'm not sure.

But it's an ongoing process everyday. I don't think it truly ends unless you won't be reincarnated anymore and you have learned the lessons you needed to learn. These are just my thoughts...
I'm not very eloquent!


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chocoholic82
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posted October 16, 2002 11:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for chocoholic82     Edit/Delete Message
Maybe it doesn't have to have a start or an ending?!

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Hopeful
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posted October 18, 2002 11:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Hopeful     Edit/Delete Message
Hi Xuan - Welcome!

Those are interesting questions you raise. I am drawn to a Jungian theory that we all start as "One" and break away as individuals, retaining a connection to the "One" and then returning to the "One" when our current lesson (life) is ended.

I agree with Amber that spirituality is an everyday process. Once a soul starts to re-member, then a person can strive to become free of his/her ego and return to the "One." Everyday spirituality requires a release of the self and an acceptance of connectedness to everyone and everything via humble, unconditional love.

What does a spiritual journey mean to you Xuan?

Hopeful

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Moon666Child
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posted November 07, 2005 04:23 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Moon666Child     Edit/Delete Message
For me spiritual journey means realizing my SELF. Through which I can realize the power I call God, and get attuned with. Spiritual journey for me is a way of life, which can enrich me in every possible way.

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fayte.m
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posted November 07, 2005 04:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for fayte.m     Edit/Delete Message
The Journey Is....never ending. It begain
when you came into awareness as a unique and concious individual.

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peajie
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posted November 07, 2005 07:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for peajie     Edit/Delete Message
So Fayte are you saying that Spirituality is the recognision of a mistake?

Does the concept only arise in our consciousness when our selfish grasping mind breaks away from its absorbtion in the Oneness?

Is Spirituality the conscious need to merge back into the source of all energy and creation ? With a negation of the individuality.

What a strange paradox.


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fayte.m
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posted November 08, 2005 11:01 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for fayte.m     Edit/Delete Message
peajie


I have a rather unusual take on the issue of merging with the oneness or getting off the wheel.
I feel based on my information and experiences that those are very bad things to want to do.
We were meant to go forth and be individuals...to become in time/eternity creators/or gods if you prefer...to join with others by communication and cooperation willingly and as individuals.. as we evolve spiritually. That is a much more difficult and evolving path.. than simply giving it all up, and back to the absorbing into the Oneness.
We are to grow and evolve and love and forever learn and share in time/eternity as unique individuals.
We were/are NOT meant to stay in a mindless bliss/Oneness for eternity, or return to the same...not even aware of being in bliss..as a Oneness; and only be in bliss as a Oneness..a great, and yes; a singular mind...not an amalgam of unique minds...
It would be a sort of stagnation, and in time that oneness once it had absorbed all there was...would, in time, go mad from loneliness...ie; another Big Bang...so to speak..As has has happened to date over and over and over..into eternity back..
The error has been finally noticed..
Returning to the Oneness was not the way...Infinity has enough room for all...
Returning to a oneness is akin to saying ALL you have ever been never mattered...All you were is gone...
There is/would be...no more you.
This is an issue I have been researching for decades and have been working on several books about.

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BlueRoamer
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posted November 08, 2005 04:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for BlueRoamer     Edit/Delete Message
Fayte do you think god created us because he was lonely? Perhaps god was so lonely he/she shattering himself into infinite fragments. But aren't we all just part of god anyway, truly the universe is just a reflection of god, so how can that make god less lonely? Why does god have emotions?

I think as humans we like to project our own image onto god. Christians say that god created us in his image, but more likely we created god in our image. God is certainly unfathomable, thats one thing we can be certain of.

It is clear that we are all here on a spiritual journey, and that life is not meaningless, everything that happens happens for a reason. To withdraw from the "web of life" is to inflict suffering upon oneself. Although it contradicts buddhist philosophy, I also believe that withdrawing into nirvana is not helpful to the rest of our cause. The more that time passes, the more that aquarians values will pervade spirituality. We will begin to see how we are all part of one whole, how we are all gods and part of a greater god.

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fayte.m
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posted November 09, 2005 11:07 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for fayte.m     Edit/Delete Message
BlueRoamer!
You said:
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Perhaps god was so lonely he/she shattering himself into infinite fragments.

That is putting it simply...but yes!

Then you said:
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Christians say that god created us in his image, but more likely we created god in our image.

Ah yes! Humans do project and anthropromorphize their idea of God.
If we were a sapient at or lizard...God would not be the same as for us in human form.

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It is clear that we are all here on a spiritual journey, and that life is not meaningless, everything that happens happens for a reason. To withdraw from the "web of life" is to inflict suffering upon oneself. Although it contradicts buddhist philosophy, I also believe that withdrawing into nirvana is not helpful to the rest of our cause. The more that time passes, the more that aquarians values will pervade spirituality. We will begin to see how we are all part of one whole, how we are all gods and part of a greater god.

VERY nicely put!

It is good to know some understand where I am coming from. I have upset many by my words. Especially those to dogma bound of any religion or philosophy.
Thank you for your reply.

PS. You also said:
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But aren't we all just part of god anyway, truly the universe is just a reflection of god, so how can that make god less lonely? Why does god have emotions?

1.God less lonely?
By us growing and learning and interacting with each other, God is interacting and experiencing active non static life also!
2.Emotions?
How can one percieve the intricities of life and living in a way that is fulfilling and inspiring, bringing joy and love and even the sadness, compassion, and so forth without emotion? Logic and emotion is a balancing act..too much of either would soon bring destruction or cause a mechanized or static non evolving state of spirituality.
As with us,so as with that we call God no matter how we percieve God.

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Mystic Gemini
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posted November 09, 2005 04:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mystic Gemini     Edit/Delete Message
Who knows.


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